Trying to build ITX development machine

[shedaniel]

Budget (including currency): USD$1500

Country: Hong Kong

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Development Work (High Multithread Usage) / Light Gaming

Other details:

I wish to build a small itx pc because I don't have much space, with decent performance.

 

CPU: Intel 12700KF ~ USD$378 (newegg)
MOTHERBOARD: ASRock B660M-ITX/ac DDR4 ~$120 (newegg)

COOLER: EK 240mm AIO Basic ~ USD$88 (newegg)
CASE: Lian Li A4H20 PCIE4 Riser ~ USD$149 (newegg)
GPU: Gigabyte 6700XT OC 12GB ~ USD$382 (local)

PSU: FSP Dagger Pro Series 850W 80 Plus Gold SFX ~ USD$127 (local)

RAM: ADATA XPG GAMMIX D20 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4 3200 C16 ~ USD$99 (local)
STORAGE: Samsung 970 Exo Plus 2TB ~ PRE-OWNED

 

TOTAL: USD$1343

 

I am not sure if my thermals will suffer, any opinions?

[Bismut]

That's a beautiful case, and one I had never heard of before. I would consider going with AMD (for example the 5900X/5950X) if you need as many threads (and maybe even ECC, I think AM4 generally supports that) as possible, and go for a 6600/6600XT if you're only doing light gaming and are concerned about thermals, though they should be fine with a 240mm AIO and any decent GPU cooler design.

I would also consider getting some backup drive if you use the computer for work, just to mitigate possible data loss.

[shedaniel]

Absolutely, it is a beautiful case, it is really small comparing to big gaming setups (never was into RGB and stuff)

I was searching online and found that 12700kf is better than 5900x for even multithreaded tasks, I am considered about the thermals for the 12th gen though.

 

The issue for 6600xt is that they cost dangerously close to a 6700xt, saving only about $60-ish, which is concerning.

I have backups regularly as well already, thanks for the great tip!

[brob]

You might use an i7-12700(F).

 

[NF-A12x25]

2 hours ago, shedaniel said:

Budget (including currency): USD$1500

Country: Hong Kong

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Development Work (High Multithread Usage) / Light Gaming

Other details:

I wish to build a small itx pc because I don't have much space, with decent performance.

 

CPU: Intel 12700KF ~ USD$378 (newegg)
MOTHERBOARD: ASRock B660M-ITX/ac DDR4 ~$120 (newegg)

COOLER: EK 240mm AIO Basic ~ USD$88 (newegg)
CASE: Lian Li A4H20 PCIE4 Riser ~ USD$149 (newegg)
GPU: Gigabyte 6700XT OC 12GB ~ USD$382 (local)

PSU: FSP Dagger Pro Series 850W 80 Plus Gold SFX ~ USD$127 (local)

RAM: ADATA XPG GAMMIX D20 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4 3200 C16 ~ USD$99 (local)
STORAGE: Samsung 970 Exo Plus 2TB ~ PRE-OWNED

 

TOTAL: USD$1343

 

I am not sure if my thermals will suffer, any opinions?

I would go with the 12700F non-K CPU since you will not be able to overclock. You’ll be able to save some money that way. It performs almost the same with open power limits.

[Jeppes]

The motherboard is a bit iffy for i7 if you run heavy avx stuff on cpu all threads.

[shedaniel]

12 hours ago, NF-A12x25 said:

I would go with the 12700F non-K CPU since you will not be able to overclock. You’ll be able to save some money that way. It performs almost the same with open power limits.

Thanks!

[shedaniel]

11 hours ago, Jeppes said:

The motherboard is a bit iffy for i7 if you run heavy avx stuff on cpu all threads.

Hmm I am not quite familiar with motherboard differences. I am checking newegg and can’t find any alternatives with same PCIE4 x16 support without going double.

[brob]

8 hours ago, shedaniel said:

Hmm I am not quite familiar with motherboard differences. I am checking newegg and can’t find any alternatives with same PCIE4 x16 support without going double.

 

Gigabyte has had issues with Alder Lake motherboards. I believe the DDR4 memory issues are now behind them as is the issue running PCIe 4.0 on the expansion slot. So if cost is a problem, you might consider https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XRPQzy/gigabyte-z690i-aorus-ultra-lite-ddr4-rev-10-mini-itx-lga1700-motherboard-z690i-aorus-ultra-lite-ddr4-rev-10. Like most Gigabyte boards it has very good power handling.

[shedaniel]

31 minutes ago, brob said:

 

Gigabyte has had issues with Alder Lake motherboards. I believe the DDR4 memory issues are now behind them as is the issue running PCIe 4.0 on the expansion slot. So if cost is a problem, you might consider https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XRPQzy/gigabyte-z690i-aorus-ultra-lite-ddr4-rev-10-mini-itx-lga1700-motherboard-z690i-aorus-ultra-lite-ddr4-rev-10. Like most Gigabyte boards it has very good power handling.

Unfortunately the board you linked is only PCIe 3.0, unless that’s what you meant and I misunderstood you?

[brob]

27 minutes ago, shedaniel said:

Unfortunately the board you linked is only PCIe 3.0, unless that’s what you meant and I misunderstood you?

 

Sorry. A misunderstanding. 

 

But why does it matter? A 6700 XT isn't likely to saturate PCIe 3.0 x16.

[shedaniel]

11 hours ago, brob said:

 

Sorry. A misunderstanding. 

 

But why does it matter? A 6700 XT isn't likely to saturate PCIe 3.0 x16.

That is true, I am just thinking it could future proof my system since there are already some noticeable differences between PCIe 3 and 4 for some cards