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Of the two options I'd get the 12400f and know I wont have to worry about CPU and it'll likely be fine for years even if you upgrade GPU later.

 

As another option, what is used 6 core pricing like for you? For example I'm keeping a 8086k around as a test system. Wouldn't go older than Coffee Lake or Zen 3 personally.

Budget (including currency): $150 US (as cheap as possible)

Country: US

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Apex, Forza, emulation, future games

Other details Bought GTX 1070, so I would technically be fine with an i3 12100, but I am worried that the 4 core 8 thread CPU will age poorly. As such I wanted to get the i5 12400f, but paying $150 (same as my 1070) seems a bit much. So, I am here to ask, what CPU would be ideal? The 12400f would let me keep the same CPU for longer, and would be better for emulation. It's also $50-$70 more, and I'm wondering if it's worth it. I personally think so, but it feels weird paying more for the CPU than my GPU. It also feels weird buying a 4 core CPU (the i3 12100f) in 2022... So I'm stuck. Any advise?

 

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13 minutes ago, DANK_AS_gay said:

Budget (including currency): $150 US (as cheap as possible)

Country: US

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Apex, Forza, emulation, future games

Other details Bought GTX 1070, so I would technically be fine with an i3 12100, but I am worried that the 4 core 8 thread CPU will age poorly. As such I wanted to get the i5 12400f, but paying $150 (same as my 1070) seems a bit much. So, I am here to ask, what CPU would be ideal? The 12400f would let me keep the same CPU for longer, and would be better for emulation. It's also $50-$70 more, and I'm wondering if it's worth it. I personally think so, but it feels weird paying more for the CPU than my GPU. It also feels weird buying a 4 core CPU in 2022... So I'm stuck. Any advise?

 

the 12400f is a 6 core cpu

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Of the two options I'd get the 12400f and know I wont have to worry about CPU and it'll likely be fine for years even if you upgrade GPU later.

 

As another option, what is used 6 core pricing like for you? For example I'm keeping a 8086k around as a test system. Wouldn't go older than Coffee Lake or Zen 3 personally.

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1 minute ago, porina said:

Of the two options I'd get the 12400f and know I wont have to worry about CPU and it'll likely be fine for years even if you upgrade GPU later.

That's what I was thinking, I will go for that then. (I'll wait for more advice, but I'll mark this as the solution in an hour or two depending on the rest of the answers)

2 minutes ago, porina said:

As another option, what is used 6 core pricing like for you?

I would prefer to stick to new, I can upgrade to 13th gen in 4 or 5 years when I want to since Intel uses the same socket for 2 generations. Means I don't need an entirely new motherboard, I also have an M1 Mac, so I've been spoiled for single core performance...

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14 minutes ago, DANK_AS_gay said:

That's what I was thinking, I will go for that then. (I'll wait for more advice, but I'll mark this as the solution in an hour or two depending on the rest of the answers)

I would prefer to stick to new, I can upgrade to 13th gen in 4 or 5 years when I want to since Intel uses the same socket for 2 generations. Means I don't need an entirely new motherboard, I also have an M1 Mac, so I've been spoiled for single core performance...

That single core performance spoiling... how amazing is that in games?  Oh wait... 🙂

 

As above, the 12400F is a good balanced CPU for the 1070 and can even hold its own with newer faster GPU's.  I wouldn't sweat the paying more than the GPU, since you're buying a 5 year old GPU, it's not relevant.

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1 hour ago, Dedayog said:

That single core performance spoiling... how amazing is that in games?  Oh wait...

Emulation is pretty rock solid, and I have enough GPU grunt to upscale to my native screen resolution. I also can play the only games ported to mac, Black Ops 3, Borderlands 2, among other games. But really that single core performance makes emulation great, and makes the OS experience snappy (aside from an NVMe drive).

1 hour ago, Dedayog said:

As above, the 12400F is a good balanced CPU for the 1070 and can even hold its own with newer faster GPUs.

Good, I'll spend the "extra" money and get a good solid CPU, so I can upgrade my GPU in 5 years when it starts to get a bit slow for modern games. The 1070 is still pretty relevant due to the 8GB of VRAM lol

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1 hour ago, DANK_AS_gay said:

Emulation is pretty rock solid, and I have enough GPU grunt to upscale to my native screen resolution. I also can play the only games ported to mac, Black Ops 3, Borderlands 2, among other games. But really that single core performance makes emulation great, and makes the OS experience snappy (aside from an NVMe drive).

Good, I'll spend the "extra" money and get a good solid CPU, so I can upgrade my GPU in 5 years when it starts to get a bit slow for modern games. The 1070 is still pretty relevant due to the 8GB of VRAM lol

Sorry, the relevant comment was about the price comparison you made, not performance.  The 1070 is still a solid 1080p GPU, I'm no stranger to the 10 series as my 1080Ti is very much doing well.

 

Here's to hoping that 1070 lasts ya 5 more years 🙂

 

"Do what makes the experience better" - in regards to PCs and Life itself.

 

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7800X3D - PBO +200, CO -30 all cores, 4.90GHz all core, 5.05GHz single core, Cinebench 23: 18401 multi, 1779 single

 

Khaleesi: Ryzen 5 5600X3D (+200, -30) - ASRock B550M Pro4 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 3200CL16 - Asus Prime 9060XT 16GB - Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial MX500 1TB - Cudy AX3000 PCIe Wifi 6 - EVGA SuperNOVA 650 P2 - Thermalright Frozen Notte RGB 360 White V2 - NZXT H6 Flow RGB White - LG 34" 3440x1440

 

NAS/Plex/Game Server  Ryzen 9 5900XT 16c/32t - Gigabyte B550M AORUS Elite AX - TeamGroup T-Force Vulcan 64GB 3200CL16 - MSI 1050Ti 4GB - Crucial P3 Plus 500GB + TeamGroup MP44L 2TB (Game) + WD Red Plus 4TBx2 (Plex) - TP-Link AC1200 PCIe Wifi - EVGA SuperNOVA 650 P2 - Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120SE - ASUS Prime AP201 - Currently Hosting: Enshrouded x2, Hytale, Icarus, Windrose. Project Zomboid, Dune Awakening.

 

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GF Rig: Steam Deck 512GB OLED, Vizio 43" 4K TV

 

Extra parts: ASUS 6650XT - Gigabyte 1080Ti - Cooler Master Q300L - Gigabyte 450w PSU - Super Flower Leadex V Plat Pro 850w

 

OnePlus Ecosystem: 

OnePlus 11 5G - 16GB RAM, 256GB NAND, Eternal Green. OnePlus Watch 2 - Radiant Steel, OnePlus Buds Pro 2 - Eternal Green

3D Printing: 

Bambu Lab X1 Carbon, AMS, AMS2 Pro (thank you MicroCenter!)

Other Interesting Tech:

- 2021 Volvo S60 Recharge T8 PHEV Polestar Engineered - 415hp/495tq 2.0L 4cyl. turbocharged, supercharged and electrified.

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