RTX3070 @ 30% usage idle

[mattattack]

Ive had this issue for sometime and have just about given up diagnosing it. Ive googled possible fixes and tried many including a clean install to no avail. Im not even sure what anyone willing to help might want to see so I will post the build and will be available for anything else that might help. I noticed the issue first in games, where sometimes my fps would be almost cut in half without having changed any settings. At first a restart would help this and Id have no issue. Now not so much. I started launching task manager so I could see what might be happening and noticed that 65% of the time, after startup even with most everything disabled, my gpu usage shoots to 30% just moving my mouse. Other times, it jumps maybe 3% and my games run fine. The process using all of the resource is client server runtime process.

 

Edited July 14, 2022 by mattattack
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[An0maly_76]

Check to be sure you haven't inadvertently triggered a streaming agent through one of the many uknown idiotic hotkeys that are mapped via software without our knowledge. I've seen something like this before where the GPU and RAM were at 100%. Turned out OP had unknowingly triggered Invidia Shield, a streaming agent built-in to GeForce Experience.

 

Another possibility is that you've picked up some malware from some jerk-off cryptominer being distirbuted to make others' GPUs mine for them.

Edited July 14, 2022 by An0maly_76
Revised, more info

[TetraSky]

Full specs?
When was the last time you updated the BIOS? Kind of important to do with Ryzen for better system performance and stability.

If you're on Windows 11, proper OS support was added a year ago in version 2407. If your BIOS is older, it may one of the causes.

 

It's kind of normal to see high GPU usage right after booting. The GPU needs to render what you see on the screen after all. Client system runtime process is basically just that, too. 

This is mine when I move my mouse around. When I stop moving it, it drops to 0.1%. 30% is certainly a bit high, though.

 

You mention that it "cuts" your FPS by half, but which game we talking about here, is it all of them or one specific game? and half of what? Half of 300 fps is still 150 fps after all. Does it come back to normal after a while or do you have to reboot?

 

How, exactly, did you do a fresh reinstall? If you used Windows's built-in "reset my PC", that's garbage and will NOT fix any sort of issues like this. You would need to get the ISO, create a bootable USB drive with RUFUS and completely delete the partition before reinstalling windows.

 

Worst case, you can always try your hand at gaming on Linux. Pop OS or Drauger OS are relatively good choice for gaming and should come with most if not all you need to get started easily.

[GuiltySpark_]

There is a bit more nuance to understanding GPU usage unless you're at max load and clockspeed.

 

The issue is usage is linked directly to clockspeed. For example, if you're just at the desktop and your GPU is properly setup (NOT in high performance mode), it will downclock to something like 210Mhz. Now, if the GPU was at its full boost clock, for example say 1950Mhz, doing something on the screen like opening a web page might not even register as usage or maybe be 1-2%, yet when the GPU is truly at idle, again say 210Mhz, that same action might register as 20-30% usage. 

 

This isn't something very clearly understood but if you monitor both usage and clockspeed directly at all times on another screen, its clearly evident as you do various things on the PC. 

 

Example below. For the majority of these graphs I had a Youtube video open and the GPU was at 210Mhz but using ~26% "usage" just playing the video. Clearly my 3090 isn't being actually used to 30% of its power to play a Youtube video but at 210Mhz, it was. 

 

[mattattack]

Okay, so quite a bit to reply to so if I miss anything, apologies. First off, while I could be wrong, I don't feel its malware. I did a full clean windows install and I guess I could have picked something up in the meantime, I have a few security redundancies in place so I don't believe that is it. 

4 hours ago, An0maly_76 said:

Check to be sure you haven't inadvertently triggered a streaming agent through one of the many uknown idiotic hotkeys that are mapped via software without our knowledge. I've seen something like this before where the GPU and RAM were at 100%. Turned out OP had unknowingly triggered Invidia Shield, a streaming agent built-in to GeForce Experience.

 

Another possibility is that you've picked up some malware from some jerk-off cryptominer being distirbuted to make others' GPUs mine for them.

I have checked the nVidia instant replay feature, record, and broadcast feature and all are off. I don't have a shield and the setting for it in GeForce experience is off as well.

4 hours ago, TetraSky said:

Full specs?
When was the last time you updated the BIOS? Kind of important to do with Ryzen for better system performance and stability.

If you're on Windows 11, proper OS support was added a year ago in version 2407. If your BIOS is older, it may one of the causes.

 

It's kind of normal to see high GPU usage right after booting. The GPU needs to render what you see on the screen after all. Client system runtime process is basically just that, too. 

This is mine when I move my mouse around. When I stop moving it, it drops to 0.1%. 30% is certainly a bit high, though.

 

You mention that it "cuts" your FPS by half, but which game we talking about here, is it all of them or one specific game? and half of what? Half of 300 fps is still 150 fps after all. Does it come back to normal after a while or do you have to reboot?

 

How, exactly, did you do a fresh reinstall? If you used Windows's built-in "reset my PC", that's garbage and will NOT fix any sort of issues like this. You would need to get the ISO, create a bootable USB drive with RUFUS and completely delete the partition before reinstalling windows.

 

Worst case, you can always try your hand at gaming on Linux. Pop OS or Drauger OS are relatively good choice for gaming and should come with most if not all you need to get started easily.

 

This is with just task manager open, while moving mouse around on desktop. I've definitely seen it higher, just hard to get a screen capture of. Highest I've ever seen it was around 40%

 

 

Build List:

AMD Ryzen 7 5800X

ASUS B550-F ROG Strix Gaming AMD AM4 ATX

G.Skill DDR4-3200 2x8 16 GB Memory

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 KO V2

Windows 10 Home

 

BIOS was updated around a year ago when I built the system as the graphics card was not compatible w/o updating and iirc I updated once since then, I will check that tonight. The issue persists after the initial boot until restarted again.

 

By cutting the FPS in half (and it happens across any gpu dependent game; FH5, AC: Valhalla, Far Cry...), I mean I'm going from around 80-100 average FPS to below 60, sometimes barely rendering at all (esp. in FH5, it only hits around 20 once the game loads).

 

The fresh install was done with a bootable USB and all drives were wiped in the meantime. 

 

I will also see tonight if I can get screencaps of the game fps differences. I sometimes have to restart many times only to be able to play, so once it hits the sweet spot, I usually don't waste anymore time.

 

 

 

Also in the process of getting these screencaps, I think I may have flubbed something with my memory. It seems I'm not running in DC mode? I'm not completely certain as I'm running on fumes atm haha

 

 

 

 

[ewitte]

I had something similar the fix was to switch power management in 3d settings back to "normal" vs "prefer maximum performance".  Just tested it doesn't seem to have that issue any more.  This was back when the 3080 was newly released.

[TetraSky]

5 hours ago, mattattack said:

It seems I'm not running in DC mode

It's normal. Single Rank because it's "low capacity" RAM and not double sided RAM and "Channel : 2x64bit" is your dual channel. For me it says "Dual" in that slot, but it's basically the same thing, just different wording. DC Mode showing anything depends on the motherboard. It also doesn't show anything for me.

 

BUT, that said, you aren't using your RAM to its fullest it would appear. You didn't enable XMP I guess? Because your RAM is running at 1066 instead of 1600.

 

 

[mattattack]

12 hours ago, ewitte said:

I had something similar the fix was to switch power management in 3d settings back to "normal" vs "prefer maximum performance".  Just tested it doesn't seem to have that issue any more.  This was back when the 3080 was newly released.

I have done this as that was one of the suggested actions from my searches, did not solve my it in my case

[mattattack]

9 hours ago, TetraSky said:

It's normal. Single Rank because it's "low capacity" RAM and not double sided RAM and "Channel : 2x64bit" is your dual channel. For me it says "Dual" in that slot, but it's basically the same thing, just different wording. DC Mode showing anything depends on the motherboard. It also doesn't show anything for me.

 

BUT, that said, you aren't using your RAM to its fullest it would appear. You didn't enable XMP I guess? Because your RAM is running at 1066 instead of 1600.

 

 

I will have to check and see, I seem to remember playing with the xmp settings and running into stability issues, but it's worth looking at. I also had a chance to check all my bios and firmwares and as far as I can tell, everything is up to date. 

[mattattack]

On 7/14/2022 at 5:21 PM, mattattack said:

I have done this as that was one of the suggested actions from my searches, did not solve my it in my case

I've had the issue both with this option on and off, from what I've seen it was recommended to keep on but I'm keeping it off for now to see if that will help

[mattattack]

On 7/14/2022 at 5:24 PM, mattattack said:

I will have to check and see, I seem to remember playing with the xmp settings and running into stability issues, but it's worth looking at. I also had a chance to check all my bios and firmwares and as far as I can tell, everything is up to date. 

I did enable the docp (xmp) and while slight I can say there was a perceiveable improvement.