VA panel color trailing or color spearing issue

[coollincolnboi]

Hello so I got a curved monitor and I know that there is a issue called black level smearing but on my monitor usually red color they have like this smearing effect or trail when I move my camera around.

 

It's like color ripping out a little when you move the camera and then a when you stop your camera movement it stops is this a va panel issue.

 

Sceptre c325bfwd240

 

31.5 inch 1080p

240hz

 

[Hairless Monkey Boy]

Try messing with the overdrive settings to see which setting looks the least bad to you.

 

240Hz and VA? 1080p and 32 inch? Those are bad combos IMO. I would not have recommended this display.

[coollincolnboi]

13 minutes ago, Hairless Monkey Boy said:

Try messing with the overdrive settings to see which setting looks the least bad to you.

 

240Hz and VA? 1080p and 32 inch? Those are bad combos IMO. I would not have recommended this display

Ok so is this a VA panel issue right?

 

Why are they bad combos?

 

The monitor is $ 499.99

https://www.sceptre.com/Monitors/Curved-Series/C325B-FWD240-32-Curved-Gaming-Monitor-product1342category12category80.html?sort=p.price&order=DESC

[191x7]

It's not a VA panel issue, it's a slow (bad) panel issue.

And it's more noticeable on panels with larger pixels, and 1080p on 32" are huge pixels.

I understand 1080p on a TV that you watch from a few meters away, but not on a 32" monitor.

1440p is great for 32", 4K probably could do if you had a great eyesight.

[coollincolnboi]

2 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

It's not a VA panel issue, it's a slow (bad) panel issue.

And it's more noticeable on panels with larger pixels, and 1080p on 32" are huge pixels.

I understand 1080p on a TV that you watch from a few meters away, but not on a 32" monitor.

1440p is great for 32", 4K probably could do if you had a great eyesight.

So it will not be noticable on 1440p 32 inch?

Because I found a reddit post on someone who has a 1440p monitor 33 inch with the same issue

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monitors/comments/ebfn9h/va_panel_color_trails/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

[191x7]

9 minutes ago, coollincolnboi said:

So it will not be noticable on 1440p 32 inch?

Because I found a reddit post on someone who has a 1440p monitor 33 inch with the same issue

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monitors/comments/ebfn9h/va_panel_color_trails/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

Even less noticeable on 27" 1440P. Smaller pixels = less noticeable. Faster panel = way less noticeable.

IPS doesn't have it, but it has other issues (even more annoying ones in my opinion).

[coollincolnboi]

1 minute ago, 191x7 said:

Even less noticeable on 27" 1440P. Smaller pixels = less noticeable. Faster panel = way less noticeable.

IPS doesn't have it, but it has other issues (even more annoying ones in my opinion).

Do you have discord or anything to talk there? Because I need help understanding a little 

[Hairless Monkey Boy]

28 minutes ago, coollincolnboi said:

Why are they bad combos?

VA and 240Hz are a bad combo because VA panels tend to have the least consistent, and at times slowest, pixel transition times compared to IPS and TN.

 

1080p and 32" are a bad combo because those are some giant f***ing pixels.

[coollincolnboi]

3 minutes ago, Hairless Monkey Boy said:

VA and 240Hz are a bad combo because VA panels tend to have the least consistent, and at times slowest, pixel transition times compared to IPS and TN.

 

1080p and 32" are a bad combo because those are some giant f***ing pixels.

Ok I don't get the VA 240hz part but I get the 1080p on 32 inch but I got it bc I was not gonna game on 1440p because to get more fps. But I don't sit that close to my monitor and I don't see the pixels 

[coollincolnboi]

4 minutes ago, Hairless Monkey Boy said:

VA and 240Hz are a bad combo because VA panels tend to have the least consistent, and at times slowest, pixel transition times compared to IPS and TN.

 

1080p and 32" are a bad combo because those are some giant f***ing pixels.

And so the color smearing thing is a va panel issue?

[coollincolnboi]

11 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

Even less noticeable on 27" 1440P. Smaller pixels = less noticeable. Faster panel = way less noticeable.

IPS doesn't have it, but it has other issues (even more annoying ones in my opinion).

On reddit people are saying it's a va panel issue I am so confused lol

[Hairless Monkey Boy]

3 minutes ago, coollincolnboi said:

And so the color smearing thing is a va panel issue?

Yes, it can be. But not all VA panels were created equal, even ones used in the same monitor model.

1 minute ago, coollincolnboi said:

On reddit people are saying it's a va panel issue I am so confused lol

It is, but smaller and or faster pixels can make the effect less noticeable. Like I said, not all VAs are the same. Yours happens to be bad, and the large pixel size does a poor job masking the issue.

[Hairless Monkey Boy]

6 minutes ago, coollincolnboi said:

Ok I don't get the VA 240hz

Some of the color transitions on a VA panel are significantly slower than 1/240Hz = 4.17ms, which means that by the time the monitor is doing the next refresh, the pixels that are doing those slow transitions will not have completed yet, or even come close to completing in some cases. This causes smearing.

[coollincolnboi]

Just now, Hairless Monkey Boy said:

Yes, it can be. But not all VA panels were created equal, even ones used in the same monitor model.

It is, but smaller and or faster pixels can make the effect less noticeable. Like I said, not all VAs are the same. Yours happens to be bad, and the large pixel size does a poor job masking the issue.

Yea here is video of what I am talking about 

 

https://streamable.com/7tt0e4

https://streamable.com/6uq6xa

 

You can see the trailing effeft

 

 

[coollincolnboi]

3 minutes ago, Hairless Monkey Boy said:

Some of the color transitions on a VA panel are significantly slower than 1/240Hz = 4.17ms, which means that by the time the monitor is doing the next refresh, the pixels that are doing those slow transitions will not have completed yet, or even come close to completing in some cases. This causes smearing.

Look at the video link I sent and then can you tell me if it is smearing or what is the issue

 

Yea here is video of what I am talking about 

 

https://streamable.com/7tt0e4

https://streamable.com/6uq6xa

 

You can see the trailing effeft

 

[coollincolnboi]

3 minutes ago, Hairless Monkey Boy said:

Some of the color transitions on a VA panel are significantly slower than 1/240Hz = 4.17ms, which means that by the time the monitor is doing the next refresh, the pixels that are doing those slow transitions will not have completed yet, or even come close to completing in some cases. This causes smearing.

Ok I get that but can you look at the video links I sent of what I am talking about 

[Hairless Monkey Boy]

1 minute ago, coollincolnboi said:

Ok I get that but can you look at the video links I sent of what I am talking about 

No I can't at the moment.

[coollincolnboi]

23 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

Even less noticeable on 27" 1440P. Smaller pixels = less noticeable. Faster panel = way less noticeable.

IPS doesn't have it, but it has other issues (even more annoying ones in my opinion).

Here are the videos I made what I am talking about

 

Yea here is video of what I am talking about 

 

https://streamable.com/7tt0e4

https://streamable.com/6uq6xa

 

You can see the trailing effeft

[coollincolnboi]

Just now, Hairless Monkey Boy said:

No I can't at the moment.

Oh but if you do look at it you can see trailing effect on the stop sign 

[191x7]

Also, some game engines have issues with faster framerates, I've seen cases I would have blamed VA smearing but in fact it was the game and it looked "smeared" even on a fast TN monitor.

[coollincolnboi]

6 minutes ago, Hairless Monkey Boy said:

No I can't at the moment.

Ok so everyone in reddit are staying in dark backgrounds red bleeds a lot after they watched the video so I am going to believe them and they said that it's a va panel issue

[coollincolnboi]

1 minute ago, 191x7 said:

Also, some game engines have issues with faster framerates, I've seen cases I would have blamed VA smearing but in fact it was the game and it looked "smeared" even on a fast TN monitor.

Did you look at the videos?

[coollincolnboi]

3 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

Also, some game engines have issues with faster framerates, I've seen cases I would have blamed VA smearing but in fact it was the game and it looked "smeared" even on a fast TN monitor.

Ok so everyone in reddit are staying in dark backgrounds red bleeds a lot after they watched the video so I am going to believe them and they said that it's a va panel issue

 

Btw I thought it was a lot fo smearing but it was not that much of you see in the video so I am just going to say the trailing behind reds are a va panel fault witch people in reddit are staying

[191x7]

1 hour ago, coollincolnboi said:

Did you look at the videos?

Yes. And there's both ghosting and blur, motion artifacts and even overdrive caused artifacts there.

As I've said, a bad slow panel DOES NOT MEAN A VA PANEL.

Edited March 29, 2022 by Spotty

[coollincolnboi]

I confusing thing is people on reddit are staying VA panel fault and you are saying slow panel

 

i forgot to say it usally happends in dark scenes