biodegradable computer

[ricohard257]

I'm the most ignorant man that ever came into to existence nevertheless i ask just to humour me in thought for 5 minutes.

 

thin filmed transistor technology was able to use cellulose paper itself as medium for information

 

paper transistors already exist

 

set of transistors can be used as on/off switches and binary code 1/0 

 

multiple transistors can be chemically inserted per manometer

 

by repetition one after the other in all sides a set of transistors will create a module, a group of modules will create a containers/shells, multiple pairs of interlock containers create houses/cells which interlocked create programable arrays 

 

different arrays are dedicated to all required computing(RAM, CPU, GPU, etc) by prompt on different app electrical load radius areas in sync 

 

just imagine a toilet or kitchen roll paper containing trillions of micro transistors working adaptively and in sync to electrical app load 

transistors will turn on or off and emulated hardware need of applications, having no define hardware component 

 

admitting there was only 1kb per millimetre square, a industrial size paper roll of 1,90mt all and 0,50mt width would have more processing power than 100 dell xvrail servers and a toilet paper version 10 dell precision workstations 

 

 

[greenhorn]

I had another look at this and found this article from 2020 link . If I understood that correctly, even by then, this researcher who seems to have invented this concept talks about replacing the insulator needed in transistors with a specially processed cellulose-based material. Since traditionally this insulator needs silicon (consists of SiO2 if I remember correctly), replacing it with this new material saves ressources (silicon) and avoids the creation of nasty by-products of the production process.

One of these by-products is sulfur hexafluoride (SF6), which is one of the most potent greenhouse gasses. As far as I know, if you should require SF6 in a lab, the mandatory containment procedures are quite extensive.

In this article, it is also mentioned that those "paper transistors" are not likely to replace conventional transistors in any high-performance devices soon. I don't think those transistors could have that much power because of the generated heat. This would also mean that they will not be able to sustain high clock speeds, since those require fast switching which in turn is responsible for the power consumption and generates the heat. Of course there are still many applications for this technology. If those transistors are truly bio-degradeable as claimed, then it could reduce the environmental impact of all those low-power consumer devices that don't need too much computational power.

I also wonder how these devices handle changing environmental factors, especially humidity.

I have seen many interesting ideas presented by scientists over the years, but so many turned out not to be practical, which is totally normal. For every breakthrough there are tons of failures, but that's how we learn and continuously improve.

[mr moose]

I don't know what the problem is, if they can make planes out of paper then a transistor shouldn't be too hard.  Hell even the first hot air balloon was made of paper.  I for one look forward to reading the newspaper then plugging it into my telly to play a few rounds of CS:GO.   After it biodegrades I'll use it to fertilize some digital crops in farming simulator. 

 

 

[IPD]

2 hours ago, mr moose said:

I don't know what the problem is, if they can make planes out of paper then a transistor shouldn't be too hard.  Hell even the first hot air balloon was made of paper.  I for one look forward to reading the newspaper then plugging it into my telly to play a few rounds of CS:GO.   After it biodegrades I'll use it to fertilize some digital crops in farming simulator. 

 

 

You can recycle it by wiping your butt with it after you are finished playing CS:GO.

[ricohard257]

On 2/12/2022 at 9:26 AM, greenhorn said:

I had another look at this and found this article from 2020 link . If I understood that correctly, even by then, this researcher who seems to have invented this concept talks about replacing the insulator needed in transistors with a specially processed cellulose-based material. Since traditionally this insulator needs silicon (consists of SiO2 if I remember correctly), replacing it with this new material saves ressources (silicon) and avoids the creation of nasty by-products of the production process.

One of these by-products is sulfur hexafluoride (SF6), which is one of the most potent greenhouse gasses. As far as I know, if you should require SF6 in a lab, the mandatory containment procedures are quite extensive.

In this article, it is also mentioned that those "paper transistors" are not likely to replace conventional transistors in any high-performance devices soon. I don't think those transistors could have that much power because of the generated heat. This would also mean that they will not be able to sustain high clock speeds, since those require fast switching which in turn is responsible for the power consumption and generates the heat. Of course there are still many applications for this technology. If those transistors are truly bio-degradeable as claimed, then it could reduce the environmental impact of all those low-power consumer devices that don't need too much computational power.

I also wonder how these devices handle changing environmental factors, especially humidity.

I have seen many interesting ideas presented by scientists over the years, but so many turned out not to be practical, which is totally normal. For every breakthrough there are tons of failures, but that's how we learn and continuously improve.

Getting closer..

At the beginning you were saying impossible later you will believe in it, when I get a little bit of time I will tell you how is possible (with drawings)

Don't forget that for current technology holders they will always say its not possible so they can maintain their control and power 

[ricohard257]

On 2/6/2022 at 12:09 AM, greenhorn said:

Well, I am an electrical engineer and I can confirm what other people have already told you in this thread: You seem to have several misconceptions about the fundamentals of electromagnetism. That's not a personal attack, just an objective evaluation of your claims.
If you want to contribute to the development of technologies like the ones you are describing, you first need to understand the underlying concepts properly and then have a go at it.

Beware of those youtube videos with permanent magnets and some amount of wire around them. Several of them are actually fake. You can even try building such contraptions yourself. Magnets are not that difficult to get (just follow the appropriate safety measures if you get a very powerful magnet), copper wire is even easier to find. Then, you just need a cheap multimeter (either you have one, can get a cheap one or maybe borrow one) and some sort of load like a small resistor and see if you get any power output. Just keep that circuit away from other large electromagnetic fields so as to not compromise your results.

You denying technology which the Nobel attributed a prize for the discovery but hey you are the engineer lol