CPU degrading

[Nerve_za]

Ive had my PC for a little over 6 months now and used the iGPU in my 5700g for about 4 and a half 5 months. I will be upgrading my CPU to a 5800x mid year but until then ive read a few things about AMD CPUs degrading even at stock settings. I'm not too sure how to take this news for my new CPU coming and the one im currently sitting with. I know my fair share around PC hardware just not much about overclocks so i didnt look that much into components degrading coz usually they do that when OCing.  

 

I do have a different LTT account donno why i cant get in so im not new to the forum 

[Poinkachu]

13 minutes ago, Nerve_za said:

Ive had my PC for a little over 6 months now and used the iGPU in my 5700g for about 4 and a half 5 months. I will be upgrading my CPU to a 5800x mid year but until then ive read a few things about AMD CPUs degrading even at stock settings. I'm not too sure how to take this news for my new CPU coming and the one im currently sitting with. I know my fair share around PC hardware just not much about overclocks so i didnt look that much into components degrading coz usually they do that when OCing.  

 

I do have a different LTT account donno why i cant get in so im not new to the forum 

Pretty sure every electronics degrades with time, especially without proper cooling and/or maintenance.

[Chris Pratt]

This is old and mostly overblown. Back during the Zen 2 days, it was discovered that a lot of AM4 boards were pushing too much voltage to the CPU out of the box. Ryzen CPUs can spike as high as 1.4-1.5V, but they're not designed to stay there long term. 1.2-1.35V is a much more common operating voltage, but these boards were pushing almost constant 1.45V in some cases. That type of long term high voltage can degrade the CPU over time, yes, but this is not an issue anymore and hasn't been for some time.

[Somerandomtechyboi]

Meh thats bullcrap, just dont go over 1.45v and you are good, but no point cpu ocing anyways since its been dead since 9th gen

[YoungBlade]

The concerns about Ryzen degrading at stock seems to be overblown. Der8auer did a video recently showing the results of long term testing with Ryzen 5000 chips at 1.45V and found that even after thousands of hours, degradation is unlikely. Of the three chips tested, only one definitely required an increase in voltage to maintain stability at a given frequency, but even then, it was just a 40mv increase. The testing simulated about 5 years of heavy use with a heavy overclock. That seems perfectly reasonable for a situation where you need to then slightly boost voltages.

 

 

[Nerve_za]

3 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Meh thats bullcrap, just dont go over 1.45v and you are good, but no point cpu ocing anyways since its been dead since 9th gen

im not really into CPU OCing the only OC i ever did was 2.2 @ 1.38  on my iGPU but i reset that as soon as i got my gpu now all i use is msi afterburner 

[Nerve_za]

8 minutes ago, Poinkachu said:

Pretty sure every electronics degrades with time, especially without proper cooling and/or maintenance.

i have a really decent air cooler atm and moving to an AIO coz i got a new case which isnt really built for air cooling i should have my parts on my account if you want to take a look but ye definitely makes sense

[Chris Pratt]

1 minute ago, Nerve_za said:

i have a really decent air cooler atm and moving to an AIO coz i got a new case which isnt really built for air cooling i should have my parts on my account if you want to take a look but ye definitely makes sense

This statement worries me a bit. What case is it specifically? There's technically no situation where it's acceptable for a case to not be "built for air cooling". Even with an AIO, some form of air cooling is still necessary to dissipate the heat from the rad. If you just mean that it doesn't allow much vertical height for something like a tower CPU cooler, that's fine, though.

[Nerve_za]

22 minutes ago, Chris Pratt said:

This statement worries me a bit. What case is it specifically? There's technically no situation where it's acceptable for a case to not be "built for air cooling". Even with an AIO, some form of air cooling is still necessary to dissipate the heat from the rad. If you just mean that it doesn't allow much vertical height for something like a tower CPU cooler, that's fine, though.

ive got the antec p120 i came from a meshify c but case was too small for my GPU and i want the lian li o11 but there were no stock on this side at the moment. the air cooler i have is the phanteks ph-tc14pe and under load my temps are just touching 70 in the antec where in the meshify that had better airflow i would be touching 60-65 but thats also considering that i didnt have a gpu in that meshify case. the move to aio is coz i can vert mount my gpu without my cooler being in the way and for lower temps at idle. and i'll be upgrading to a 5800x in june

im not someone that is too worried about temps unless im exceeding 85 and touching 90 but something that got to me was that my idle temps were at 30 in my meshify case and now in the antec it is around 50. i have change the fan configuration that the single 120 fan intakes directly into the air cooler and and the back panel fans exhaust while the bottom 3 intake for gpu. i also tested it with some smoke from a smoke machine that a friend of mine had and i found that there is a hot pocket of air just sitting by the cooler and the back end of the gpu is just feeding into it