Double Check I'm all good.

[HR-Crumble]

Hi guys,

 

Haven't built a machine for about 5 years and have upgraded most of the new components. 

 

Just want to double check there are no glaringly obvious mistakes. 

 

I'm UK based, use the machine for a very specific flight sim (specs designed for that). 

 

Ryzen 5600x

MPG X570 GAMING PLUS

64Gb Ram 3600

M.2

2x SATA SSD

Corsair iCUE 220T case

MSI Mag Core Liquid AIO

3060 12GB

600W PSU

[dizmo]

Personally I wouldn't get an MSI motherboard.

Do you really need 64GB of RAM?

You should list the type of PSU, and other items you've included. We can't give decent advice when all it says is "600w PSU."

 

Welcome to the forum.

[HR-Crumble]

12 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Personally I wouldn't get an MSI motherboard.

Do you really need 64GB of RAM?

You should list the type of PSU, and other items you've included. We can't give decent advice when all it says is "600w PSU."

 

Welcome to the forum.

Hey man thanks for the reply,

 

- Yep to the 64Gb as the very specific flight SIM I use can use all of that preloading in maps and textures etc. 

 

- 600w BeQuiet! Modular Gold. 

 

- How come your feedback on the MSI is negative? I've had a few in the past - last one was the Z370 Mortar and I ran a heavily OC'd i5-8600k and it had zero stability issues. 

 

Thanks and appreciate your thoughts. 

[CT854]

8 minutes ago, HR-Crumble said:

- How come your feedback on the MSI is negative? I've had a few in the past - last one was the Z370 Mortar and I ran a heavily OC'd i5-8600k and it had zero stability issues. 

A lot of the issues for me stem from MSI's business practices, and I've heard this as a common complaint. I generally try to avoid buying MSI wherever I can for that reason.

 

Since the motherboard market is so saturated I'd personally choose a competitor's whenever I could. I run the ASUS TUF Gaming Plus X570 board and I have no complaints about it, other than the fact that it doesn't come with an integrated IO shield but that's par for the course for motherboards in that price range.

[Jonathan Lee]

Flight sim is pretty CPU intensive, so I would recommend going with a 5800X at least. Or you could look at the 12th gen intel stuff. Either the 12600K or 12700k would be good choices.

 

You also don't need to go with the X570 board. You could probably save some money and go with MSI B550-A Pro, then put more money into GPU/CPU.

 

You can also go with one NVME drive for boot and one SATA for games. Here are some good value gen 3 drives:

 

Storage: ADATA XPG GAMMIX S11 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital WD_BLACK SN750 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($129.85 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Team MP34 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($94.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Mushkin Pilot-E 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($108.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Silicon Power P34A80 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($91.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: PNY CS2130 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: ADATA XPG GAMMIX S7 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 

 

If you can afford it, higher wattage PSU. Makes it easier to upgrade later down the line.

 

No glaring mistakes, these are pretty minor improvements in the grand scheme of things.

[Herman Mcpootis]

3 hours ago, HR-Crumble said:

MPG X570 GAMING PLUS

64Gb Ram 3600

Garbage VRMs on that board, a B550-A Pro would be much better.

why do you need 64GB of ram?

[MadyTehWolfie]

3 hours ago, HR-Crumble said:

Hi guys,

 

Haven't built a machine for about 5 years and have upgraded most of the new components. 

 

Just want to double check there are no glaringly obvious mistakes. 

 

I'm UK based, use the machine for a very specific flight sim (specs designed for that). 

 

Ryzen 5600x

MPG X570 GAMING PLUS

64Gb Ram 3600

M.2

2x SATA SSD

Corsair iCUE 220T case

MSI Mag Core Liquid AIO

3060 12GB

600W PSU

If you can swing it get the asus dark hero mobo or the asus X570. Had nothing but good luck with asus and EVGA boards. Personally I prefer the evga boards. Both have good AI overclocking and have clear cmos buttons which is a life saver feature. I know you can clear cmos in other ways but its just too convenient and Ive gotten to the point if it doesn't have this feature I pass on the board entirely. 

[dizmo]

9 hours ago, HR-Crumble said:

Hey man thanks for the reply,

 

- Yep to the 64Gb as the very specific flight SIM I use can use all of that preloading in maps and textures etc. 

 

- 600w BeQuiet! Modular Gold. 

 

- How come your feedback on the MSI is negative? I've had a few in the past - last one was the Z370 Mortar and I ran a heavily OC'd i5-8600k and it had zero stability issues. 

 

Thanks and appreciate your thoughts. 

Cool, I'd just suggest checking the QVL for the motherboard before buying RAM for Ryzen based systems. They're rather picky.

 

I'd check the PSU against the LTT PSU tier list. Make sure it's in the top two categories, and you're good.

 

I've had nothing but issues with MSI motherboards. I've owned several, as have family and friends. I've had maybe one or two that have only had small issues, but none were perfect. They have an abysmal customer service department, and their RMA process is laughable. I will never recommend them, and will recommend against them every chance I get.

[HR-Crumble]

So the flight SIM I fly doesn't use more than 4 cores so anything above that is a waste. I don't use the machine for anything else. 

 

64gb as stated above is needed as it means I can preload all of the maps and textures first - this is another feature of this flight sim. 

 

 

Can I overclock with a B550 - A Pro?

 

 

[HR-Crumble]

10 hours ago, Jonathan Lee said:

Flight sim is pretty CPU intensive, so I would recommend going with a 5800X at least. Or you could look at the 12th gen intel stuff. Either the 12600K or 12700k would be good choices.

 

You also don't need to go with the X570 board. You could probably save some money and go with MSI B550-A Pro, then put more money into GPU/CPU.

 

You can also go with one NVME drive for boot and one SATA for games. Here are some good value gen 3 drives:

 

Storage: ADATA XPG GAMMIX S11 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital WD_BLACK SN750 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($129.85 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Team MP34 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($94.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Mushkin Pilot-E 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($108.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Silicon Power P34A80 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($91.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: PNY CS2130 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: ADATA XPG GAMMIX S7 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 

 

If you can afford it, higher wattage PSU. Makes it easier to upgrade later down the line.

 

No glaring mistakes, these are pretty minor improvements in the grand scheme of things.

How about this one:

 

 

GIGABYTE B550M AORUS ELITE (AMD AM4) B550 MICRO-ATX

 

 

It was my understanding B-series doesn't have pcie4 and you can't overclock?

[Herman Mcpootis]

3 hours ago, HR-Crumble said:

Can I overclock with a B550 - A Pro?

only A-series chipsets from AM4 cannot overclock.

 

2 hours ago, HR-Crumble said:

GIGABYTE B550M AORUS ELITE (AMD AM4) B550 MICRO-ATX

this one's pretty bad. stick with the A Pro.

[Guest]

9 hours ago, MadyTehWolfie said:

If you can swing it get the asus dark hero mobo or the asus X570. Had nothing but good luck with asus and EVGA boards. Personally I prefer the evga boards. Both have good AI overclocking and have clear cmos buttons which is a life saver feature. I know you can clear cmos in other ways but its just too convenient and Ive gotten to the point if it doesn't have this feature I pass on the board entirely. 

That is terrible advice. He doesn't need to spend £400+ on an X570 Dark Hero for a 5600X cpu. A B550 board is more than good in this situation.

[HR-Crumble]

1 hour ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

only A-series chipsets from AM4 cannot overclock.

 

this one's pretty bad. stick with the A Pro.

Okay so can I overclock with this:

 

GIGABYTE B550M AORUS ELITE (AMD AM4) B550 MICRO-ATX

 

 

[Herman Mcpootis]

8 minutes ago, HR-Crumble said:

Okay so can I overclock with this:

 

GIGABYTE B550M AORUS ELITE (AMD AM4) B550 MICRO-ATX

 

 

yes, but read the 2nd line.

[HR-Crumble]

1 hour ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

yes, but read the 2nd line.

What do you mean?

[ahmad13610]

4 minutes ago, HR-Crumble said:

What do you mean?

it mean mATX not much good on that socket kind. but i dont trust him, 5600x is power consume friendly. even worst a520m can handle it

 

r7 5800x + b550 A pro looks better deal

[Herman Mcpootis]

8 hours ago, HR-Crumble said:

What do you mean?

That board has terrible VRMs for the price, you won't be able to upgrade without throttling the CPU.

 

[MadyTehWolfie]

12 hours ago, lee32uk said:

That is terrible advice. He doesn't need to spend £400+ on an X570 Dark Hero for a 5600X cpu. A B550 board is more than good in this situation.

To each his own can’t beat EVGA customer support and rma process. That alone for some is worth the extra money and the ability to OC easily and be able to pop a better cpu in the future is something to consider as well.

[Guest]

9 hours ago, MadyTehWolfie said:

To each his own can’t beat EVGA customer support and rma process. That alone for some is worth the extra money and the ability to OC easily and be able to pop a better cpu in the future is something to consider as well.

You can buy an Asus B550 TUF or B550-F for around £130 that will handle an overclocked 5950X.

 

As for EVGA they have a very limited selection for Ryzen. The X570 Dark which isn't available in the UK on pcpartpicker is listed at $690 on EVGA US website. So you would be looking at £600+ if you could get it in the UK. Unless you have an unlimited budget it makes zero sense.

[MadyTehWolfie]

On 12/29/2021 at 5:19 AM, lee32uk said:

You can buy an Asus B550 TUF or B550-F for around £130 that will handle an overclocked 5950X.

 

As for EVGA they have a very limited selection for Ryzen. The X570 Dark which isn't available in the UK on pcpartpicker is listed at $690 on EVGA US website. So you would be looking at £600+ if you could get it in the UK. Unless you have an unlimited budget it makes zero sense.

I’ll pass on a board that only costs that much for heavy overclocking but to each their own.

[Guest]

2 hours ago, MadyTehWolfie said:

I’ll pass on a board that only costs that much for heavy overclocking but to each their own.

What does the price have to do with anything ? A Gigabyte B550 Aorus Master is around £215. That board has the same VRM as the X570 Aorus Xtreme which costs 3 times as much. So yeah price means nothing.

[MadyTehWolfie]

3 minutes ago, lee32uk said:

What does the price have to do with anything ? A Gigabyte B550 Aorus Master is around £215. That board has the same VRM as the X570 Aorus Xtreme which costs 3 times as much. So yeah price means nothing.

I wouldnt recommend gigabyte either. What if I told you there was more to power delivery then just the number of VRM physically on the board itself.

 

Edit: My opinion still stays the same either asus rog board or evga anything else is a bit of wasted time and money in my book. Missing simple features is pretty bad and when you water cool ripping apart a loop to remove a cmos battery is pain in the ass. If your heavily OC'ing and not on water your wasting your time.

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, MadyTehWolfie said:

I wouldnt recommend gigabyte either. What if I told you there was more to power delivery then just the number of VRM physically on the board itself.

I didn't recommend them either ? I was using those two boards as an example. The VRM on both is major overkill for any Ryzen cpu.