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There are options in between. UHD 730 will get you no gaming done. 1650 super? Depends on your budget. If super budget conservative I'd recommend a GTX 1050 TI. 

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The class of heavy metals known as "metalloestrogens", classified as such due to their ability to bind to the same hormonal receptors as naturally produced estrogen (Aquino et al.), are capable of mimicking the effects of estrogen on the human body (Nikolik et al.). Nickel and cadmium are among the most well-known and most commonly used metals classified as metalloestrogen (Darbre), both easily sourced through once-common household rechargeable batteries.

Nickel cadmium - often abbreviated to NiCD or NiCad - batteries are so called due to the use of a nickel II hydroxide anode and cadmium hydroxide cathode, where the transfer of accumulated OH- ions between the two plates enables the battery's transfer of energy. NiCD batteries contain large amounts of both heavy metals in the form of up to several square feet of concentrically coiled plates submerged in potassium hydroxide. Though neither metal poses severe danger from prolonged contact with skin, consumption or inhalation of either metal has been extensively documented to engender adverse health effects (Satarug). 

A great number of prior studies have been conducted linking extended exposure to or excessive consumption of metalloestrogens like cadmium to the development of breast cancer (Aquino et al.) - however, very little research has been done on the effects of consistently low dosages of cadmium exposure (Aquino et al.). Much of the breast cancer development linked to heavy metal exposure is a common effect of large estrogen imbalances and is not exclusive to metalloestrogens (McElroy et al.). Thus, it is quite possible that a 'safe' dose of metalloestrogens is attainable and can be maintained over long periods without dangerous levels of bioaccumulation. 

Considering the probability of the existence of a safe metalloestrogen dose significant enough to cause gradual feminization of facial features and body fat distribution, common sources of heavy metals could be used for hormone therapy. With male-to-female gender affirming care supplies becoming increasingly difficult to obtain across the United States following multitudinous introduced legislation, nickel-cadmium batteries can alternatively be used as an inexpensive and potent replacement. 

 

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The performance between those two chips is night and day.  Basically asking if a snail is going to do anywhere near as good as a cheetah

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12 minutes ago, anerdwhocodes said:

So i want to buy a new desktop for computer science and some light gaming should i go extra and get a 1650 super or stay conservative and pick intel uhd 730 graphics? 

If you want to go with a cpu that has an igpu, the 5600g is a solid option.

 

It's affordable, has a solid processor and will allow for a decent 1080p gaming experience with the igpu.

The vega 7 on the 5600g will be approx 2x faster than the UHD 730.

 

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8 minutes ago, Tech87 said:

If you want to go with a cpu that has an igpu, the 5600g is a solid option.

 

It's affordable, has a solid processor and will allow for a decent 1080p gaming experience with the igpu.

The vega 7 on the 5600g will be approx 2x faster than the UHD 730.

 

So the 2 options that i can find one only has intel chips as options and the other is a 3200g with vega 8 is that also good or is that trash?

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UHD 730 is trash, though it still capable to provide a good experience with emulator games (NES, SNES, N64, a bit of PS1).

 

Depends on the game you play, but most PC game will have issue running on Intel UHD graphics.

 

Like @Tech87suggest, if you are looking to play games with iGPU, AMD Ryzen APU is still a good choice. 3200G is marginal but can play quite many games with good frame rates and low settings in 1080p.

 

You can refer to this video from ETA Prime. This video is a bit old but it is mostly relevant:

 

scroll to 6:46 mark if you want to skip on the explanation of the parts and building the PC.

 

Anyway, 3400G seems to be a good choice if you can get one.

 

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3200G or 3400G should be good. but maybe not as much valued? But it does at least both jobs if you just need it. (although the 1650 doesn't seem that great of a value over these either). But mostly a dedicated newer CPU with a dedicated GPU can do better, depending on what you want to focus on. And you can try to upgrade one part later. As for integrated graphics, some limits and you might not get as much out of your money if you are thinking about upgrading in the future.

 

But if you just need something, ryzen with vega should do fine.

You can also buy mini PC's if that is something you want to look into? Like the different Minisforum ones. Not sure if you can find it or buy it online for a decent price?

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36 minutes ago, anerdwhocodes said:

So the 2 options that i can find one only has intel chips as options and the other is a 3200g with vega 8 is that also good or is that trash?

The 3200g has a capable igpu, which will outperform the UHD 730, but it only has a 4 core/4 thread processor.

 

It's an okay option, but a 10th/11th Gen Intel chip would outperform it in the processing dept, while falling behind in the graphic area.

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1 hour ago, anerdwhocodes said:

So i want to buy a new desktop for computer science and some light gaming should i go extra and get a 1650 super or stay conservative and pick intel uhd 730 graphics? 

Depends on what you need besides coding and whats your preferred operating system. Personally speaking i usually use Visual Studio Code with Windows 10 and i video edit on the side so a CUDA accelerated GPU is pretty much a must. But if you just game and code, a very very strong igpu is enough, something like 5600G. And besides, if it doesnt satisfy you performance wise atleast you can throw a GPU on it.

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8 hours ago, SorryClaire said:

Depends on what you need besides coding and whats your preferred operating system. Personally speaking i usually use Visual Studio Code with Windows 10 and i video edit on the side so a CUDA accelerated GPU is pretty much a must. But if you just game and code, a very very strong igpu is enough, something like 5600G. And besides, if it doesnt satisfy you performance wise atleast you can throw a GPU on it.

i will probably use win 10 or 11 and visual studio code other than that some light gaming

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