Jump to content

Does NAS use internet?

Go to solution Solved by LIGISTX,
19 minutes ago, Shinitets said:

Hey guys so I want to see about starting up on my first home server setup and admittedly I don’t know a ton about networking but am learning as I go and I want to start out with building a NAS but I’m not sure how much internet it requires I live out in the middle of nowhere so the only internet service that will hook up to my house is up to 10mb download and 1-3 upload… the modem says it’s getting 15 download (lie) but when you download something your getting 2mb download (1.8 actually) and when I play gta 5 on pc and my fiancé streams Netflix on the ps4 it actually kept screwing her streaming just because the ps4 said it would get 114kb download while I’m playing gta5… then I changed the dns to 1.1.1.1 and we can do both now but still not great internet so I worry about doing a NAS and it screwing our internet more what are your guys’ thoughts? 

Internet has no bearing no NAS (network attached storage), unless you plan on sharing data OUTSIDE of your network. Which is of course possible and a use case many have, but it is not required at all. Unless you know what your doing and can properly secure things (via a VPN into your home network etc), it is not at all advised to expose a NAS to the internet as that is a great way to get pwned.

 

 

Also... setting your DNS should have 0 bearing on being able to stream and play online games at once, DNS is just what is used to do IP lookups. So, when you go to google.com, the DNS server is what translates that into an actual public IP address, but once that route is established, the DNS server isn't in the loop. So, while 1.1.1.1 is a good choice and good on you for doing that, that shouldn't have had any impact on being able to stream + game at once, just FYI. May have just been luck 🙂 

Hey guys so I want to see about starting up on my first home server setup and admittedly I don’t know a ton about networking but am learning as I go and I want to start out with building a NAS but I’m not sure how much internet it requires I live out in the middle of nowhere so the only internet service that will hook up to my house is up to 10mb download and 1-3 upload… the modem says it’s getting 15 download (lie) but when you download something your getting 2mb download (1.8 actually) and when I play gta 5 on pc and my fiancé streams Netflix on the ps4 it actually kept screwing her streaming just because the ps4 said it would get 114kb download while I’m playing gta5… then I changed the dns to 1.1.1.1 and we can do both now but still not great internet so I worry about doing a NAS and it screwing our internet more what are your guys’ thoughts? 

Link to comment
https://linustechtips.com/topic/1391428-does-nas-use-internet/
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

A NAS is typically accessed through your local network, so the speed and type of internet connection you have is irrelevant. What matters is the speed of your local network. 

Phobos: AMD Ryzen 7 2700, 16GB 3000MHz DDR4, ASRock B450 Steel Legend, 8GB Nvidia GeForce RTX 2070, 2GB Nvidia GeForce GT 1030, 1TB Samsung SSD 980, 450W Corsair CXM, Corsair Carbide 175R, Windows 10 Pro

 

Polaris: Intel Xeon E5-2697 v2, 32GB 1600MHz DDR3, ASRock X79 Extreme6, 12GB Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080, 6GB Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660 Ti, 1TB Crucial MX500, 750W Corsair RM750, Antec SX635, Windows 10 Pro

 

Pluto: Intel Core i7-2600, 32GB 1600MHz DDR3, ASUS P8Z68-V, 4GB XFX AMD Radeon RX 570, 8GB ASUS AMD Radeon RX 570, 1TB Samsung 860 EVO, 3TB Seagate BarraCuda, 750W EVGA BQ, Fractal Design Focus G, Windows 10 Pro for Workstations

 

York (NAS): Intel Core i5-2400, 16GB 1600MHz DDR3, HP Compaq OEM, 240GB Kingston V300 (boot), 3x2TB Seagate BarraCuda, 320W HP PSU, HP Compaq 6200 Pro, TrueNAS CORE (12.0)

Link to comment
https://linustechtips.com/topic/1391428-does-nas-use-internet/#findComment-15123840
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

19 minutes ago, Shinitets said:

Hey guys so I want to see about starting up on my first home server setup and admittedly I don’t know a ton about networking but am learning as I go and I want to start out with building a NAS but I’m not sure how much internet it requires I live out in the middle of nowhere so the only internet service that will hook up to my house is up to 10mb download and 1-3 upload… the modem says it’s getting 15 download (lie) but when you download something your getting 2mb download (1.8 actually) and when I play gta 5 on pc and my fiancé streams Netflix on the ps4 it actually kept screwing her streaming just because the ps4 said it would get 114kb download while I’m playing gta5… then I changed the dns to 1.1.1.1 and we can do both now but still not great internet so I worry about doing a NAS and it screwing our internet more what are your guys’ thoughts? 

Internet has no bearing no NAS (network attached storage), unless you plan on sharing data OUTSIDE of your network. Which is of course possible and a use case many have, but it is not required at all. Unless you know what your doing and can properly secure things (via a VPN into your home network etc), it is not at all advised to expose a NAS to the internet as that is a great way to get pwned.

 

 

Also... setting your DNS should have 0 bearing on being able to stream and play online games at once, DNS is just what is used to do IP lookups. So, when you go to google.com, the DNS server is what translates that into an actual public IP address, but once that route is established, the DNS server isn't in the loop. So, while 1.1.1.1 is a good choice and good on you for doing that, that shouldn't have had any impact on being able to stream + game at once, just FYI. May have just been luck 🙂 

Rig: i7 13700k +Contact Frame - - Asus Z790-P Wifi - - RTX 4080 - - 4x16GB 6000MHz - - Samsung 990 Pro 2TB NVMe Boot + Main Programs - - Crucial P3 2TB NVMe for photo work - - Corsair RM850x - - Sound BlasterX EA-5 - - Corsair XC8 JTC Edition - - Corsair GPU Full Cover GPU Block - - PTM 7950 - - XT45 X-Flow 420 + UT60 280 rads externally mounted - - EK XRES RGB PWM - - Fractal Define S2 - - DellAlienware AW3423DWF 34" -- Logitech Pro X Superlight - - Logitech G710+ - - LTT Northern Lights Deskpad

 

Headphones/amp/dac: Schiit Bifrost Multibit - -  Schiit Lyr 3 - - Fostex TR-X00 - - Sennheiser HD 6xx

 

Homelab/Media Server: Proxmox VE host - - 512 NVMe Samsung 980 RAID Z1 for VM's/Proxmox boot - - Xeon e5 2660 V4- - Supermicro X10SRF-i - - 128 GB ECC 2133 - - 10x8TB WD Red RAID Z2 - - 2x 800 GB SAS SSD’s (1 SLOG, 1 L2Arc) - - 45 HomeLab HL15 15 Drive 4U - - Corsair RM650i - - LSI 9305-16i HBA - - TreuNAS + many other VM’s

 

Unifi UDM Pro in front of full unifi network infrastructure

 

iPhone 17 Pro - - MacBook Air M3

Link to comment
https://linustechtips.com/topic/1391428-does-nas-use-internet/#findComment-15123857
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks so much guys and another quick question… does getting a better modem actually help at all with internet speed? I feel like it doesn’t because that’s all isp side not client right? I mean a better modem would have the ability to handle traffic better I think among devices in the home but I don’t think it would have much impact on the actual speed itself of the internet right? Really just trying to have better internet here but aside from satellite (which I tried and was horrible for my users and the data cap was TERRIBLE) no one else has my address as “serviceable” on their end so I’m stuck with “up to 10mb” century link again thankyou so much in advance ! 

Link to comment
https://linustechtips.com/topic/1391428-does-nas-use-internet/#findComment-15124076
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

13 minutes ago, Shinitets said:

Thanks so much guys and another quick question… does getting a better modem actually help at all with internet speed? I feel like it doesn’t because that’s all isp side not client right? I mean a better modem would have the ability to handle traffic better I think among devices in the home but I don’t think it would have much impact on the actual speed itself of the internet right? Really just trying to have better internet here but aside from satellite (which I tried and was horrible for my users and the data cap was TERRIBLE) no one else has my address as “serviceable” on their end so I’m stuck with “up to 10mb” century link again thankyou so much in advance ! 

A modem is only doing single device to ISP.  Your router (may be built into your modem if you have a router/modem combo from your ISP. The router is what “splits the network” out into all the connected devices, thus your 192.168.1.1 subnet (that’s what most routers ship with), and all of your local LAN clients get a 192.168.1.X address. Your router then talks to the modem as a single device, and modem out to ISP. 
 

So, you were on the right track, just slightly off with your understanding. But, have to start learning somewhere 🙂  

 

As far as do modems help, they can. But if your speeds are so low, I doubt any modem made in the past 10 years couldn’t handle that with ease.

 

How is your cell service there? Maybe worth trying a cell plan instead? If you get 5G, you can get stand alone cell based modems, it would be faster, latency may or may not be worse though.  

Rig: i7 13700k +Contact Frame - - Asus Z790-P Wifi - - RTX 4080 - - 4x16GB 6000MHz - - Samsung 990 Pro 2TB NVMe Boot + Main Programs - - Crucial P3 2TB NVMe for photo work - - Corsair RM850x - - Sound BlasterX EA-5 - - Corsair XC8 JTC Edition - - Corsair GPU Full Cover GPU Block - - PTM 7950 - - XT45 X-Flow 420 + UT60 280 rads externally mounted - - EK XRES RGB PWM - - Fractal Define S2 - - DellAlienware AW3423DWF 34" -- Logitech Pro X Superlight - - Logitech G710+ - - LTT Northern Lights Deskpad

 

Headphones/amp/dac: Schiit Bifrost Multibit - -  Schiit Lyr 3 - - Fostex TR-X00 - - Sennheiser HD 6xx

 

Homelab/Media Server: Proxmox VE host - - 512 NVMe Samsung 980 RAID Z1 for VM's/Proxmox boot - - Xeon e5 2660 V4- - Supermicro X10SRF-i - - 128 GB ECC 2133 - - 10x8TB WD Red RAID Z2 - - 2x 800 GB SAS SSD’s (1 SLOG, 1 L2Arc) - - 45 HomeLab HL15 15 Drive 4U - - Corsair RM650i - - LSI 9305-16i HBA - - TreuNAS + many other VM’s

 

Unifi UDM Pro in front of full unifi network infrastructure

 

iPhone 17 Pro - - MacBook Air M3

Link to comment
https://linustechtips.com/topic/1391428-does-nas-use-internet/#findComment-15124096
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

10 hours ago, LIGISTX said:

A modem is only doing single device to ISP.  Your router (may be built into your modem if you have a router/modem combo from your ISP. The router is what “splits the network” out into all the connected devices, thus your 192.168.1.1 subnet (that’s what most routers ship with), and all of your local LAN clients get a 192.168.1.X address. Your router then talks to the modem as a single device, and modem out to ISP. 
 

So, you were on the right track, just slightly off with your understanding. But, have to start learning somewhere 🙂  

 

As far as do modems help, they can. But if your speeds are so low, I doubt any modem made in the past 10 years couldn’t handle that with ease.

 

How is your cell service there? Maybe worth trying a cell plan instead? If you get 5G, you can get stand alone cell based modems, it would be faster, latency may or may not be worse though.  

Cell service sucks aswell without internet you can’t search anything on the internet on your phone I currently have 1 bar in addition to the internet connection the highest the phone may get might be 3 bars but that’s rare generally 1-2 bars (iPhone 11 so not an old phone either) and I actually lied before I forgot I did discover 1 other internet service that technically would “wire up” to my home but it’s a little different it’s a modem that will link up with cell towers and create an internet connection from the cell towers themselves the boast a 10-50mb connection but with my cel reception I doubt it would be much help… especially at $250 I think to start and $150 a month continuously thank you so much for the replies guys!! 

Link to comment
https://linustechtips.com/topic/1391428-does-nas-use-internet/#findComment-15124584
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

×