Question About Corsair Vengeance LPX

[ScarfedNathan]

and What is the difference between all of them?

Edited November 17, 2021 by ScarfedNathan
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[AbydosOne]

1 minute ago, ScarfedNathan said:

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Near as I can tell, those are all essentially the same thing. Do the first two have different part numbers?

[ScarfedNathan]

1 minute ago, AbydosOne said:

Near as I can tell, those are all essentially the same thing. Do the first two have different part numbers?

I Don't Get Your Question

[krakek]

Depends on your use case.

 

If you want to have a nice filled motherboard - go for 4x8 sticks, particularly on Ryzen and daizy chain topology.

 

If you are looking for peak performance - 2x8.

 

If you want high performance and capacity - 2x16 may have an edge over 4x8, but see above point.

[ScarfedNathan]

Just now, krakek said:

Depends on your use case.

 

If you want to have a nice filled motherboard - go for 4x8 sticks, particularly on Ryzen and daizy chain topology.

 

If you are looking for peak performance - 2x8.

 

If you want high performance and capacity - 2x16 may have an edge over 4x8, but see above point.

I only want 16GB though

[krakek]

Just now, ScarfedNathan said:

I only want 16GB though

If you only want 16 GB do 2x8 and not 1x16, as 1x16 is going to only use one memory channel out of two, halfing your memory bandwidth (really bad).

[ScarfedNathan]

1 minute ago, krakek said:

If you only want 16 GB do 2x8 and not 1x16, as 1x16 is going to only use one memory channel out of two, halfing your memory bandwidth (really bad).

Oh Ok But Do I Buy The First Option or The Third Option

 

Is There a major Difference Between Those?

[CommanderAlex]

1 minute ago, ScarfedNathan said:

Oh Ok But Do I Buy The First Option or The Third Option

 

Is There a major Difference Between Those?

They sound all the same to me. Can you provide the SKU numbers as the sub timings may differ. For example, CMK16GX4M2B3200C16.

[krakek]

Just now, ScarfedNathan said:

Oh Ok But Do I Buy The First Option or The Third Option

 

Is There a major Difference Between Those?

Assuming that the individual RAM sticks are of the same type then buying two as a set vs two separately/individually would, in theory, be more reliable/stable.

 

However the difference is probably going to be very marginal assuming you have a decent CPU/motherboard, so the price is probably going to be the more important factor.

[BetteBalterZen]

There is also the possibility that if you buy 2 sets of 1 RAM stick and use them together, that it won't work. So if you want two sticks, it is recommended that you buy a set of 2 sticks - because then you know these two sticks of RAM has been tested together. 

Probably don't matter too much with "only" 3000MHz RAM but still though.

[ScarfedNathan]

1 minute ago, krakek said:

Assuming that the individual RAM sticks are of the same type then buying two as a set vs two separately/individually would, in theory, be more reliable/stable.

 

However the difference is probably going to be very marginal assuming you have a decent CPU/motherboard, so the price is probably going to be the more important factor.

So It Depends if I get a good deal or not?

 

The Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (1x8GB) is $50 

 

Soo.... I Just Get 2 of Those??

[ScarfedNathan]

Just now, BetteBalterZen said:

There is also the possibility that if you buy 2 sets of 1 RAM stick and use them together, that it won't work. So if you want two sticks, it is recommended that you buy a set of 2 sticks - because then you know these two sticks of RAM has been tested together. 

Probably don't matter too much with "only" 3000MHz RAM but still though.

Well For Some Reason That's $150

[Beerzerker]

Just so you're not planning on running Corsair sticks with a Ryzen setup, either way will do.
If wanting these for a Ryzen build, you've been warned.

For some reason Corsair RAM and Ryzen don't like each other as has been proven time and time again with all the Ryzen threads with RAM issues and it's almost always a set of Corsair sticks involved.

If it's a Ryzen you're building most anything that's not Corsair RAM is the way to go but if not, go for it.
I'd suggest G. Skill for a Ryzen based build any day of the week.

[BiotechBen]

1 minute ago, Beerzerker said:

Just so you're not planning on running Corsair sticks with a Ryzen setup, either way will do.
If wanting these for a Ryzen build, you've been warned.

For some reason Corsair RAM and Ryzen don't like each other as has been proven time and time again with all the Ryzen threads with RAM issues and it's almost always a set of Corsair sticks involved.

If it's a Ryzen you're building most anything that's not Corsair RAM is the way to go but if not, go for it.
I'd suggest G. Skill for a Ryzen any day of the week.

2866mhz @ 1.37v, 16-18-18-36 timings

Verified to work with Ryzen beyond Ryzen 1000 series. 

[ScarfedNathan]

7 minutes ago, Beerzerker said:

Just so you're not planning on running Corsair sticks with a Ryzen setup, either way will do.
If wanting these for a Ryzen build, you've been warned.

For some reason Corsair RAM and Ryzen don't like each other as has been proven time and time again with all the Ryzen threads with RAM issues and it's almost always a set of Corsair sticks involved.

If it's a Ryzen you're building most anything that's not Corsair RAM is the way to go but if not, go for it.
I'd suggest G. Skill for a Ryzen based build any day of the week.

What's a Good Alternative Under $50USD

[Beerzerker]

5 minutes ago, BiotechBen said:

2866mhz @ 1.37v, 16-18-18-36 timings

Verified to work with Ryzen beyond Ryzen 1000 series. 

I would hope so with timings and speeds like that for a Ryzen that's beyond a 1000 series.

[Beerzerker]

3 minutes ago, ScarfedNathan said:

What's a Good Alternative Under $50USD

Any sets that's "Good" will run more than $50 I'm afraid.
Let me browse around and I'll throw some ideas at you.

[BiotechBen]

Just now, Beerzerker said:

I would hope so with timings and speeds like that for a Ryzen that's beyond a 1000 series.

I spent a whole day dialing those in on a 2600x, reinstalling windows at least 6 times. Have had a 100% success rate so far with other Ryzen systems above Ryzen 1000. If you manage to get a chip with a really good memory controller and cooperative sticks, it can be taken up to 2933 @1.38-1.4v. my system did not cooperate and I only had about 70% stability with that speed regardless of voltage.

[ScarfedNathan]

1 minute ago, Beerzerker said:

Any sets that's "Good" will run more than $50 I'm afraid.
Let me browse around and I'll throw some ideas at you.

50 Per 8GB

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[ScarfedNathan]

5 minutes ago, Beerzerker said:

Any sets that's "Good" will run more than $50 I'm afraid.
Let me browse around and I'll throw some ideas at you.

 

Is G.Skill Ripjaws V 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4-3200MHz Good?

 

[Beerzerker]

These are sets that's 16GB total for not alot more than you're budget.
G.SKILL Flare X (for AMD) 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Intel XMP 2.0 Desktop Memory Model F4-3200C16D-16GFX - Newegg.com
Probrably your best bet for the money, I'm running a set of these right now and they are doing great, have been for at least 2 years now with 0 issues.

This is the absolutely cheapest set for G. Skill I've seen for PC3200 sticks:
G.SKILL Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Intel XMP 2.0 Memory Kit Model F4-3200C16D-16GIS - Newegg.com

What you asked about above is a good set too.

[Jurrunio]

Buy 2x8GB if you can, using multiple kits together risk breaking XMP stability.

 

3200 CL16 is the same for every brand out there, let alone the model.

 

Unless your CPU is picky with memory (Ryzen 1000 and 2000 series), any brand is fine.

[Beerzerker]

9 minutes ago, BiotechBen said:

I spent a whole day dialing those in on a 2600x, reinstalling windows at least 6 times. Have had a 100% success rate so far with other Ryzen systems above Ryzen 1000. If you manage to get a chip with a really good memory controller and cooperative sticks, it can be taken up to 2933 @1.38-1.4v. my system did not cooperate and I only had about 70% stability with that speed regardless of voltage.

I will mention the board used makes a BIG difference at times.
The set of Flares I've got (PC3200 - CL14's) with my 2700X in this board (X470 Tachi Ultimate) will top out around 3333, maybe not quite that high but take the same sticks and chip, set them into my X570 MEG ACE and it's a different ballgame - Can do at least 3600 with stock timings like it's nothing.
I will say for some reason ASRock (Maybe not all of them of course) just isn't a RAM-Champ for RAM speed, and I'm not the only one that's noted this. The X570's themselves may be different, too bad my ASRock X570 board is dead or I could test this myself.

[BiotechBen]

4 hours ago, Beerzerker said:

I will mention the board used makes a BIG difference at times.
The set of Flares I've got (PC3200 - CL14's) with my 2700X in this board (X470 Tachi Ultimate) will top out around 3333, maybe not quite that high but take the same sticks and chip, set them into my X570 MEG ACE and it's a different ballgame - Can do at least 3600 with stock timings like it's nothing.
I will say for some reason ASRock (Maybe not all of them of course) just isn't a RAM-Champ for RAM speed, and I'm not the only one that's noted this. The X570's themselves may be different, too bad my ASRock X570 board is dead or I could test this myself.

True, but the vengeance LPX CL16 dimms are notoriously buggy with Ryzen. My board says that it will run 2933 without doing anything, and will do up to 3200 (OC). The memory controller for 2000 and 3000 series Ryzen and these sticks have very particular settings that they prefer. Spent a whole day of frustration slowly adjust voltage and frequency to find that out.

[Beerzerker]

10 hours ago, BiotechBen said:

True, but the vengeance LPX CL16 dimms are notoriously buggy with Ryzen. My board says that it will run 2933 without doing anything, and will do up to 3200 (OC). The memory controller for 2000 and 3000 series Ryzen and these sticks have very particular settings that they prefer. Spent a whole day of frustration slowly adjust voltage and frequency to find that out.

And I refer you to my previous on this.

16 hours ago, Beerzerker said:

Just so you're not planning on running Corsair sticks with a Ryzen setup, either way will do.
If wanting these for a Ryzen build, you've been warned.

For some reason Corsair RAM and Ryzen don't like each other as has been proven time and time again with all the Ryzen threads with RAM issues and it's almost always a set of Corsair sticks involved.

If it's a Ryzen you're building most anything that's not Corsair RAM is the way to go but if not, go for it.
I'd suggest G. Skill for a Ryzen based build any day of the week.

Already aware of issues with Corsair and Ryzen.
It does seem the "Vengeance" line is the worst for it but I've seen such more or less across the board with a Corsair/Ryzen combo in use.

 

It still doesn't change the fact a board can also make or break things with RAM tweaking itself no matter what sticks you run.