Upgrade my LGA 1151 or switch Mobo + CPU?

[Buppy333]

Hey!

Specs:

Motherboard: ASUS Maximus X

CPU: Intel Core i7-8700K @3.70GHz OC to @5GHz

GPU: ASUS Strix RTX 2080

RAM: 32GB G.Skill Trident Z RGB 3200MHz

SSD: 128GB Samsung

SSD: 250GB Samsung m.2

HDD: 1TB

Case: NZXT s340
Displays: 3 displays (UW 1440p, 1440p, 1080p)

 

I'd like to ask what would be a better choice value/moneywise. I was thinking of getting an i9 9900K but as I watched videos it doesn't seem to be that big of an upgrade.

So the question is should I stick with this socket or go ryzen or other socket?

 

In addition I'd like to ask what would you upgrade in my setup that you think would be a good upgrade.

Mainly I use my PC for stream/game/work (graphic design). My main display is 3440x1440 @ 165Hz and my 2080 starts having FPS problems in newer titles (Battlefield 2042, New World etc.)

Thank you in advance,

Tom

[jaslion]

I don't even see a need to upgrade?

 

New world is an mmo it lags on basically everyone's system that is just normal mmo things. BF2042 had performance issues on a heap of systems and the beta was very undercooked. Game is nowhere near finished and barely playable since you can't even see who is friend or foe yet :p.

[Buppy333]

3 minutes ago, jaslion said:

I don't even see a need to upgrade?

 

New world is an mmo it lags on basically everyone's system that is just normal mmo things. BF2042 had performance issues on a heap of systems and the beta was very undercooked. Game is nowhere near finished and barely playable since you can't even see who is friend or foe yet :p.

Thanks for the quick answer!
Well I really hope that BF beta was poorly optimized and it'll get better.

The CPU upgrade came to my mind when I played Guild Wars 2 (also old and poorly optimized I know) with wifey and her i9 + 2070 run the game better with the same display than my i7 + 2080.

[Dedayog]

If you can sell the 8700K for what you're buying the 9900K, do it.  I was able to.  The 9900K can boost slightly higher usually and has a couple more cores to play with, though I am not certain if BF2 and NW utilize.

 

Really, the 8700K at 5GHz is more than enough.  I wouldn't upgrade until next gen, in your position.

 

People are playing NW on 1050Ti's and Ryzen 1600's.  It's the nature of an MMO, not your gear.

[Buppy333]

Yep, I'll try to make a good deal on that otherwise I just sit the urge out to upgrade anything for now  Thanks for the answers!

[herb]

47 minutes ago, Buppy333 said:

Hey!

Specs:

Motherboard: ASUS Maximus X

CPU: Intel Core i7-8700K @3.70GHz OC to @5GHz

GPU: ASUS Strix RTX 2080

RAM: 32GB G.Skill Trident Z RGB 3200MHz

SSD: 128GB Samsung

SSD: 250GB Samsung m.2

HDD: 1TB

Case: NZXT s340
Displays: 3 displays (UW 1440p, 1440p, 1080p)

 

I'd like to ask what would be a better choice value/moneywise. I was thinking of getting an i9 9900K but as I watched videos it doesn't seem to be that big of an upgrade.

So the question is should I stick with this socket or go ryzen or other socket?

 

In addition I'd like to ask what would you upgrade in my setup that you think would be a good upgrade.

Mainly I use my PC for stream/game/work (graphic design). My main display is 3440x1440 @ 165Hz and my 2080 starts having FPS problems in newer titles (Battlefield 2042, New World etc.)

Thank you in advance,

Tom

realistically modern cpus over 8 cores dont make a difference in games and multithreading in games still inst perfect. once multithreading is near 90-95% scaling a 12core cpu might make sense but for now if you upgrade to a 9900k you'll be good on cpu power for years to come 

[jones177]

I have 2 computers using i7 8086k(Intel 6 cores) at 5ghz all cores with Hero X motherboards and did upgrade to a i9 10900kf and a 5800x.

I also have an i9 9900k.

 

An i9 9900k is only an upgrade with games that use more cores and it won't be an upgrade at all without a more powerful GPU.

It also has more cache so it does slightly better. 

If you had a Hero XI it would be a no brainer to get one.

 

With a 5800x or a i9 10900k some games will play at exactly the same frames as your currant computer. These CPUs have more IPC/cores but the game has to use it. 

 

Only with the 3080 ti has my 5ghz Intels have shown their age so do a GPU upgrade first.

 

5 minutes ago, herb said:

realistically modern cpus over 8 cores dont make a difference in games and multithreading in games still inst perfect. once multithreading is near 90-95% scaling a 12core cpu might make sense but for now if you upgrade to a 9900k you'll be good on cpu power for years to come 

They sort of do.

My i9 10900k always wins but I think it is because of the extra cache. 

My main gaming computer has the 5800x because of its higher IPC that is used in my building and modded games but it does the same frames as the i9 9900k in vanilla AAA games.

[Buppy333]

1 hour ago, jones177 said:

 

If you had a Hero XI it would be a no brainer to get one.

 

 

Only with the 3080 ti has my 5ghz Intels have shown their age so do a GPU upgrade first.

Could you tell me what difference does the Hero XI make? It's also LGA 1151 right?

Also do you know an approx. CPU limit for a 3080? (that's what I planned to get before the prices skyrocketed)

[jones177]

1 minute ago, Buppy333 said:

Could you tell me what difference does the Hero XI make? It's also LGA 1151 right?

Also do you know an approx. CPU limit for a 3080? (that's what I planned to get before the prices skyrocketed)

I dealt with it way back in 2019 so I did not quite remember why I went with the Z390.

At the time there was speculation about z370 motherboard VRMs not being capable of supporting it since the CPU was considered hot.  After getting an i9 9900k and overclocking it to 5ghz all cores(1.27v) it only used 158 watts max.  My i7 8086k at 5ghz(1.34v) used 152 watts max so it ended up not to be an issue.

There are people here that still think it is an oven because of those early reports.

 

My i9 9900k uses a ROG Stix 3080 OC now but it may get a 3080 ti by the end of the week.  

It keeps up with the 5800x so I am happy with it.