New build. Need help

[whatsupgold]

Budget (including currency): $2,000

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: SC, Programming, Streaming.

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

 

 

Right now I am using the Alienware R6. Its 4 years old and is bogging down. Its using the the i7-7700. So after a couple of days of research I am looking at this system, 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dVD2Hz . I already have the RTX 2080 Super. I don't want AMD I don't like them, So I want to stay with Intel. I'm needing to know if this system will work.

I know the MB is expensive and could switch it out with another MB but I'm looking at the ease of upgrading later if I needed it. Like switching to 3090 when they become easer to find

 and the price. I've selected the i9-10900k for two reason one the price and the second the amount of cores. I know if I go with the I9-11900k I could use the m.2 slot #1 but what would

that really give me besides the extra $250+ price tag.

 

 

 

Thanks,

[RONOTHAN##]

A couple things off the bat.

 

1.) Go for the 10850k over the 10900k. They're practically identical, and you can just overclock the difference.

2.) If you're worried about upgrading, wait 3 months so you can get Alder Lake when it comes out. DDR4 and the LGA 1200 socket are going to be EOL at the end of the year if rumors are true, so if you actually care about upgrading in the future, wait for that. A cheaper Z490 or Z590 board would be a much better options, since I've built very competent gaming rigs for less than the cost of that board. 

3.) The AIO is pretty overpriced just for RGB sake. I personally don't recommend AIO for reliability concerns, so someone here can recommend one instead if you really want one, but if you just wanna keep that chip cool get an NH-D15 and use that instead.

4.) The 980 Pro is a Gen4 drive. That CPU doesn't support Gen4. You're spending the extra 50% for nothing on it. If you wanna stick with Samsung, get a 970 Evo, or if you don't care, look at the WD SN750.

5.) The PSU is a bit overkill, the RM850x would do everything that one does for $50 less. If you really want the extra power savings or overkill for the sake of overkill, fine, I can respect that, just don't feel like you need to go that high end.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6XdXxc

 

This saves you ~$400 with no loss in performance. 

[jones177]

CPU Intel Core i9-10900K 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor    

I have built a i9 10900k and a i9 10900kf.

 

CPU Cooler Corsair iCUE H150i ELITE CAPELLIX 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler 

Good choice. Both of mine use SilverStone PF360-ARGB AIO because they are cheaper.

   

Motherboard Asus ROG STRIX Z590-E GAMING WIFI ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  

Should be ok. I use a Aorus Master and a Hero XII.

 

Memory Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  

Both of mine use 4000 ram. 

 

Storage    Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive 

A bit expensive for performance you will not feel. Both mine use Crucial 1tb M.2s

   

Video Card EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB BLACK GAMING 

Ok for now.

    

Case Corsair 5000D AIRFLOW ATX Mid Tower Case  

Ok for a 2080 but mine was a big fail with a 3080 ti caused by dead air below the GPU. I replaced it with a lian li o11 dynamic and got the cooling a 3080 ti needs.

 

Power Supply Corsair HX Platinum 850 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  

Ok for now.

 

Case Fan Corsair AF120 (2018) 52 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack    $36.99                
I used CORSAIR iCUE SP120 RGB with my 5000d because RGB.

[Somerandomtechyboi]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yfLJYg

Shaved 700$ off

 

Ditched the aio for an aircooler, considering that youve come from the world of prebuilts i do not expect any overclocking so a cheap cooler will do

 

Ditched the overpriced rgb ram for much cheaper rgb rams cause corsair rams are overpriced

 

Ditched the 980 pro cause you wont see any benifit in load times unless you run server like workloads that require you to regularly transfer massive files regularly

 

Ditched the platinum psu cause its insanely overpriced, might aswell get a 1000w at that point but 1000w isnt neccesary anyways so 850w gold it is

 

Ditched the 5000d for a p400a, you prob dont need the space of a full tower and the p400a already comes with rgb fans

 

Ditched the overpriced board cause again i dont expect any overclocking

 

 

If you are an overclocker though i suggest getting a liquid freezer 360 aio and a z490 tomahawk mobo

[KKLawrence]

CPU: AMD is the better performing CPU, why don't you go with that? 4 years ago it wasn't smart, but nowadays the 5800X comparable to the 11900K for 100 bucks less and definitly with less heat and power consumption. Don't vote out a brand of PC-components definitly, just go for the best available. It's a free market, isn't it? And if you want more CPU power, go for the 5900X and a bigger Cooler.

CPU Cooler: I considered changing it but if you want corsair parts for ease of RGB, this one will be good enough for you.

Motherboard: I also didn't take the cheapest one but one I trust and that just works great. But ASUS and MSI have also great boards, there's a good tier liest on this forum to check out.

Memory: Again, Corsair for ICue but went with 3600MHz CL18 instead of 3200MHz CL16, as 3600MHz works better with Ryzen and the real time latency is the same. Also same price.

Storage: good SSD, you can skimp down to a gen3 drive, but the 980 Pro is fine at your budget.

You already have a great GPU, great for you!

Case: I went with the 4000D Airflow, as it's just slightly smaller and will fit everything at a smaller pricepoint. The 5000D only has more freedom for watercooling or something like that, but for normal airflow use the 4000D is equal in performance.

PSU: You don't need a 180$ PSU, there are plenty of good 130$ PSU's for 850w. Also check out the tier list, you wont overclock it like hell so don't overspend here.

Fans: I put in some better fans, that have more than one color. Of course, there are more expensive but ease of use as everything is corsair and great performers out of the box. The AF line has no RGB to my knowledge, so that would be a bummer...

 

Honestly, don't go intel. If you REALLY want intel, then wait if the next gen is really that much better and get that, otherwise AMD would be the better choice.

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FQjyJf

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($393.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair iCUE H100i ELITE CAPELLIX 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($139.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550 AORUS PRO V2 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($189.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  ($149.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($176.80 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB BLACK GAMING Video Card  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  ($94.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA G5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($124.99 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: Corsair LL120 43.25 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack  ($84.99 @ Best Buy) 
Total: $1355.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-10-05 02:27 EDT-0400

[whatsupgold]

17 hours ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Ditched the aio for an aircooler, considering that youve come from the world of prebuilts i do not expect any overclocking so a cheap cooler will do

This Alienware was my first prebuilt. I had problems where I lived to get anything in and needed a computer for VR.

 

17 hours ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

If you are an overclocker though i suggest getting a liquid freezer 360 aio and a z490 tomahawk mobo

Does the z490 have built in wifi like the ROG Z590E, how good is the Liquid freezer for over clocking. 

 

17 hours ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Ditched the overpriced board cause again i dont expect any overclocking

I will be doing overclocking.

 

 

Do they make any good AIO for GPU.

 

Thanks

[Somerandomtechyboi]

3 hours ago, whatsupgold said:

I will be doing overclocking.

 

 

Do they make any good AIO for GPU.

Still not convinced considering you came from the prebuilt world, i think its best to just not bother with aio for cpu and just have aio for gpu since gpus should have more noticable performance gains than overclocking cpus and cpu overclocking doesnt really gain you much performance nowadays

 

I think there are aios for gpus but for all i know if you wanna do it on the cheap then you are gonna have to "fabricate" a custom mounting system (zipties also work xD)

3 hours ago, whatsupgold said:

Does the z490 have built in wifi like the ROG Z590E, how good is the Liquid freezer for over clocking. 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xQMbqp

Didnt realise you needed wifi, just swapped the board with a z590 ud ac which does have wifi

 

Liquid freezer aio is pretty good value and performance but in this build i dont think youll need an aio

 

If you want to overclock i suggest messing around with the gpu, cpu wise i suggest finding the highest freq the cpu can run at 1.2v vcore, you can expect around 4.8ghz with that voltage, basically undervolting for better temps and efficiency

[KKLawrence]

7 hours ago, whatsupgold said:

Does the z490 have built in wifi like the ROG Z590E, how good is the Liquid freezer for over clocking. 

 

I will be doing overclocking.

 

 

Do they make any good AIO for GPU.

 

Thanks

First, you can always add an PCIe Card afterwards, thats the whole point of a full size ATX board. So I'd rather go with a PCIe Wifi Card, Gigabyte has a good one with Wifi 6 (ax)

 

If you want to be doing overclocking, be sure what the gains are. A few generations ago, it was worth it but now you mostly can get a real performance boost in games of 5%. And thats with a lot of tweaking, rebooting and trying. GPU Overclocking is worth it, as this is doable in software through MSI Afterburner, just be sure that you also don't push it to hard, there are a few good tutorials by JayzTwoCents on GPU Overclocking.

 

And lastly, there is no real AIO for GPU. A GPU comes almost always as an AIO, as soon as it has a fan attached to it. If you want a watercooled GPU tho, be sure that it makes sense. Because most GPU's with good air coolers wont get over 70°C in a decently cooled case. Some not even over 65, so plenty of headroom for overclocking. I don't see the need for a watercooled GPU in your use case.

 

And again, AMD is the smarter CPU-choice if you want to buy now. I do not say it because I am a fanboy but in the price/performance/power triangle AMD almost always outperforms intel, especially at 8 cores or higher (Intel only has 8, but Ryzen has 12 and 16 in it's lineup). So I really see no reason to go intel with your budget, since you'll be paying more for less performance, and I don't mean it as a front. Just be aware of that.