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9 minutes ago, Nalina Artigala said:

Do you recommend a CPU that doesn't support latest OS (Like Windows 11)?

Does a brand new CPU fit in their budget, or do they need something a bit older? Not much point choosing a CPU that can eat an entire budget.

9 minutes ago, Nalina Artigala said:
  • What kind of CPUs do you recommend when it comes to a machine without a dedicated GPU (or a iGPU machine)
  • Do you recommend putting a after market cooler for a low-budget or a computer which only use for low-tasks other than the stock cooler? (Actually for my PC the intel i5 stock cooler worked pretty well and also my 110R PC case doesn't have any intake fans it only have a exhaust fan)
  • Is corsair a good brand?

These all depend on specific use. Do they multi task a lot? Do they edit videos/stream? Do they do CAD? Those all might favor different CPUs and potentially a larger or smaller cooler.

10 minutes ago, Nalina Artigala said:
  • What brands are the best?
  • Is MSI, Asrock, NZXT good? (I heard that MSI Bios is awful and I've never heard of ASrock brand in my country) 
  • Do you recommend Micro or Mini ATX motherboard? (Why do most people recommend Asrock B560M Pro4/ac micro ATX motherboard for intel 10th gen builds, because according to reviews and articles the first M.2 slot doesn't support for intel 10th gen systems) 

Don't buy based on brands. Every brand has good and bad products. Want a good example? Look at what Gigabyte is going through with their PSUs.

As for ATX/mATX/Itx, depends on what they want. mATX motherboards tend to go in a bit more budget of a build. Less PCIE slots, less PCB, less cost.

12 minutes ago, Nalina Artigala said:
  • Is corsair a good ram? and is there any problem with corsair LPX? (Some people told me that corsair LPX doesn't give the requested Mhz and its not stable)
  • Do you recommend going for a 2666Mhz ram even for a intel i5 or i3 builds?
  • Is team brands rams good? (Because one team ram received the TUF certification)

I've had great luck with LPX. At what RAM costs and the boost you do get from it, there's no sense in going under 3200mhz. Even 3600 is starting to fit into budget builds and seems to be the "price to performance" happy spot for Intel and AMD anymore.

13 minutes ago, Nalina Artigala said:
  • What SSD brands do you recommend (crucial, lexar, samsung, seagate, WD, kingston, HP, corsair)
  • Is Gen 3 really bad? (I know that its 2x slower than Gen 4 but according to YouTube videos there isn't a big different between gen 4 and gen 3)
  • Do you recommend putting a SATA SSD as the main drive?

Depends on budget again. No sense in putting a SN550 in a $2500 build, but no sense in putting a Q4 in a $1000 build. Gen 3 is just fine for what 90% of us do.

14 minutes ago, Nalina Artigala said:
  • What brands do you recommend (Cooler master, corsair, EVGA, sea sonic, Thermaltake)
  • Why does most people recommend going for a 550 Watt PSU when a 450 watt PSU is enough?
  • Do you recommend 80+ Bronze? 

Don't recommend based off brand. All the brands you listed have good PSUs. They also have horrible ones. Don't recommend based off brand and "80 plus gold". As we've seen recently, 80 plus ratings can be very easily faked and don't tell anything about the actual parts and reliability of the PSU. 550W also tends to not cost much more than 450W. Having a bit more PSU now leaves room for upgrades later without worrying about it again. There is almost no reason to get a Bronze when you can get good units for very cheap.

16 minutes ago, Nalina Artigala said:
  • What brands do you recommend?
  • What type of network adapter do you recommend PCi one or USB one? 
  • Do you recommend wireless or wired? (and also wireless combo or not)

Once again, don't recommend based off brand. Asus has some good monitors, but seem to have just put out a really bad one for example. Recommend based off product. For most people, there's no need for a network adapter. Motherboards have LAN built in anymore, and if you need WiFi you can get motherboards with WiFi built in.

 

Don't recommend based on brand. 

This is not actually a new build or a planner.
In this I'm asking questions with a PC build.

 

Processor and cooler :-

  • Do you recommend a CPU that doesn't support latest OS (Like Windows 11)?
  • What kind of CPUs do you recommend when it comes to a machine without a dedicated GPU (or a iGPU machine)
  • Do you recommend putting a after market cooler for a low-budget or a computer which only use for low-tasks other than the stock cooler? (Actually for my PC the intel i5 stock cooler worked pretty well and also my 110R PC case doesn't have any intake fans it only have a exhaust fan)
  • Is corsair a good brand?

Motherboard :-

  • What brands are the best?
  • Is MSI, Asrock, NZXT good? (I heard that MSI Bios is awful and I've never heard of ASrock brand in my country) 
  • Do you recommend Micro or Mini ATX motherboard? (Why do most people recommend Asrock B560M Pro4/ac micro ATX motherboard for intel 10th gen builds, because according to reviews and articles the first M.2 slot doesn't support for intel 10th gen systems) 

Ram :-

  • What brands do you recommend?
  • Is corsair a good ram? and is there any problem with corsair LPX? (Some people told me that corsair LPX doesn't give the requested Mhz and its not stable)
  • Do you recommend going for a 2666Mhz ram even for a intel i5 or i3 builds?
  • Is team brands rams good? (Because one team ram received the TUF certification)

Storage :-

  • What brand do you recommend when it comes to HDD Seagate or WD?
  • What SSD brands do you recommend (crucial, lexar, samsung, seagate, WD, kingston, HP, corsair)
  • Is Gen 3 really bad? (I know that its 2x slower than Gen 4 but according to YouTube videos there isn't a big different between gen 4 and gen 3)
  • Do you recommend putting a SATA SSD as the main drive?

Case :-

  • What brands do you recommend? (NZXT, Corsair, Lian Li, Cooler master, Thermaltake, Antec)
  • Do you recommend cases with a brand which you don't know?
  • What cases do you recommend for a budget casing?
  • Is Corsair a good brand?

Power Supply :-  

  • What brands do you recommend (Cooler master, corsair, EVGA, sea sonic, Thermaltake)
  • Why does most people recommend going for a 550 Watt PSU when a 450 watt PSU is enough?
  • Do you recommend 80+ Bronze? 

Monitor, Keyboard and mouse, speaker, network adapter, headphone :-

  • What brands do you recommend?
  • What type of network adapter do you recommend PCi one or USB one? 
  • Do you recommend wireless or wired? (and also wireless combo or not)

 

There's a main question that I need to ask from you guys,

                 Is Corsair a Good brand for PSU. RAM, Casing, SSDs?

(I asked this question because every time when I suggest a corsair product for someone one or two people say that don't go for corsair and also what is the problem with Corsair CV450 80+ Bronze PSU?) and also in machine also I used corsair RAMs, PSU and case

  

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In general, do not buy "brands." Virtually all "big name" brands for PC components and peripherals have some products which are good and some products which are bad. You gain nothing by being loyalty to one logo over another. 

 

To answer a few specific questions...

 

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Do you recommend a CPU that doesn't support latest OS (Like Windows 11)?

 

I don't think any such CPU's are still being sold new. 

 

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Why do most people recommend Asrock B560M Pro4/ac micro ATX motherboard for intel 10th gen builds, because according to reviews and articles the first M.2 slot doesn't support for intel 10th gen systems

 

I think what you read is about the fact that Intel 10th gen CPU's don't support PCIe 4.0. Not the board's fault. 

 

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Is Gen 3 really bad? 

 

No, in fact the additional speed of gen 4 is useless for most people.

 

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What brands do you recommend? (NZXT, Corsair, Lian Li, Cooler master, Thermaltake, Antec)

 

Not NZXT.

 

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Why does most people recommend going for a 550 Watt PSU when a 450 watt PSU is enough?

 

Enough for what?

 

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Do you recommend 80+ Bronze? 

 

80+ is not an indicator of quality.

Friends don't let friends use Userbenchmark. Ban the term "bottleneck." Corps aren't your friends. If the PC does what you need it to do well enough, it's good enough. Don't build the "best" system, build the system that makes you happy. 

 

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2 minutes ago, Middcore said:

In general, do not buy "brands." Virtually all "big name" brands for PC components and peripherals have some products which are good and some products which are bad. You gain nothing by being loyalty to one logo over another. 

Yes I know that but I'm asking overall recommendations for parts because most people won't recommend some brands for builds 

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1 minute ago, Nalina Artigala said:

Yes I know that but I'm asking overall recommendations for parts because most people won't recommend some brands for builds 

 

Half your post is "what brand do you recommend for this part or that part?" That is the wrong mindset. Anybody who blanketly recommended one brand for most of those component choices would be doing you a disservice because that brand makes some parts that are poor or that wouldn't fit your personal preferences and use cases. 

Friends don't let friends use Userbenchmark. Ban the term "bottleneck." Corps aren't your friends. If the PC does what you need it to do well enough, it's good enough. Don't build the "best" system, build the system that makes you happy. 

 

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Brand is not important, rather quality is...

I read, that was a point brought out before me. Simple but true I think.

People might prefer some brands over the others, but that is heavily subjective.

 

... but I'm no expert.

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9 minutes ago, Nalina Artigala said:

Do you recommend a CPU that doesn't support latest OS (Like Windows 11)?

Does a brand new CPU fit in their budget, or do they need something a bit older? Not much point choosing a CPU that can eat an entire budget.

9 minutes ago, Nalina Artigala said:
  • What kind of CPUs do you recommend when it comes to a machine without a dedicated GPU (or a iGPU machine)
  • Do you recommend putting a after market cooler for a low-budget or a computer which only use for low-tasks other than the stock cooler? (Actually for my PC the intel i5 stock cooler worked pretty well and also my 110R PC case doesn't have any intake fans it only have a exhaust fan)
  • Is corsair a good brand?

These all depend on specific use. Do they multi task a lot? Do they edit videos/stream? Do they do CAD? Those all might favor different CPUs and potentially a larger or smaller cooler.

10 minutes ago, Nalina Artigala said:
  • What brands are the best?
  • Is MSI, Asrock, NZXT good? (I heard that MSI Bios is awful and I've never heard of ASrock brand in my country) 
  • Do you recommend Micro or Mini ATX motherboard? (Why do most people recommend Asrock B560M Pro4/ac micro ATX motherboard for intel 10th gen builds, because according to reviews and articles the first M.2 slot doesn't support for intel 10th gen systems) 

Don't buy based on brands. Every brand has good and bad products. Want a good example? Look at what Gigabyte is going through with their PSUs.

As for ATX/mATX/Itx, depends on what they want. mATX motherboards tend to go in a bit more budget of a build. Less PCIE slots, less PCB, less cost.

12 minutes ago, Nalina Artigala said:
  • Is corsair a good ram? and is there any problem with corsair LPX? (Some people told me that corsair LPX doesn't give the requested Mhz and its not stable)
  • Do you recommend going for a 2666Mhz ram even for a intel i5 or i3 builds?
  • Is team brands rams good? (Because one team ram received the TUF certification)

I've had great luck with LPX. At what RAM costs and the boost you do get from it, there's no sense in going under 3200mhz. Even 3600 is starting to fit into budget builds and seems to be the "price to performance" happy spot for Intel and AMD anymore.

13 minutes ago, Nalina Artigala said:
  • What SSD brands do you recommend (crucial, lexar, samsung, seagate, WD, kingston, HP, corsair)
  • Is Gen 3 really bad? (I know that its 2x slower than Gen 4 but according to YouTube videos there isn't a big different between gen 4 and gen 3)
  • Do you recommend putting a SATA SSD as the main drive?

Depends on budget again. No sense in putting a SN550 in a $2500 build, but no sense in putting a Q4 in a $1000 build. Gen 3 is just fine for what 90% of us do.

14 minutes ago, Nalina Artigala said:
  • What brands do you recommend (Cooler master, corsair, EVGA, sea sonic, Thermaltake)
  • Why does most people recommend going for a 550 Watt PSU when a 450 watt PSU is enough?
  • Do you recommend 80+ Bronze? 

Don't recommend based off brand. All the brands you listed have good PSUs. They also have horrible ones. Don't recommend based off brand and "80 plus gold". As we've seen recently, 80 plus ratings can be very easily faked and don't tell anything about the actual parts and reliability of the PSU. 550W also tends to not cost much more than 450W. Having a bit more PSU now leaves room for upgrades later without worrying about it again. There is almost no reason to get a Bronze when you can get good units for very cheap.

16 minutes ago, Nalina Artigala said:
  • What brands do you recommend?
  • What type of network adapter do you recommend PCi one or USB one? 
  • Do you recommend wireless or wired? (and also wireless combo or not)

Once again, don't recommend based off brand. Asus has some good monitors, but seem to have just put out a really bad one for example. Recommend based off product. For most people, there's no need for a network adapter. Motherboards have LAN built in anymore, and if you need WiFi you can get motherboards with WiFi built in.

 

Don't recommend based on brand. 

I'm not actually trying to be as grumpy as it seems.

Project Hot Box

CPU Ryzen 7 5800x, Motherboard MSI MPG B550I Gaming Edge Wifi, RAM CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 32GB 3200mhz (2x16), GPU AMD Radeon 6800 XT FE, Case Lian Li O11 Dynamic Mini, Storage CORSAIR Force Series MP510 1920GB NVMe, CORSAIR FORCE Series MP510 960GB NVMe, PSU CORSAIR sf600, Cooling Noctua NH-D15, Displays LG 34UC98-W 34-Inch, 32 inch curved that I can't find the model number for right now; UPerfect 7 inch LCD Aida64 Display, Keyboard Corsair K95, Mouse Corsair Nightblade, Sound AT2020+ USB Mic, Massdrop 6xx headphones, Schiit Magni, Modi Loki mini stack. 

Oppbevaring

CPU i9-9900k, Motherboard, ASUS Rog Maximus Code XI, RAM, 48GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB 3200 mhz (2x16)+(2x8) GPU Asus ROG Strix 2070 8gb, PNY 1080, Nvidia 1080, MSI 1070 Gaming X 8gb, Case Phanteks Enthoo Evolv X, Storage Samsung 860 Evo 500 GB, 5x Seagate IronWolf 8tb NAS(ZFS1), PSU Corsair RM1000x, Cooling Asus Rog Ryuo 240 with Noctua NF-12 fans, OS Unraid

 

Why is the 5800x so hot?

 

 

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As others have said, don't buy brands. Major brands have offerings at multiple price points with corresponding quality and performance.

 

Consult the PSU Tier list for suitable models. Buy a model in Tier A if possible, otherwise Tier B.

 

If you get an mATX motherboard, a suitable case is likely a bit pricier than an ATX motherboard case.

 

A case should have at least two fans to establish good air flow. While one can get very inexpensive cases, the build process is much more enjoyable in something that costs a little more.

 

Intel stock coolers are fine when provided. The same is true for most AMD coolers. That said a suitable aftermarket cpu cooler can make for a quieter system and extend component life.

 

Three companies make most, if not all the dram chips used in memory modules. In other words, there is not a lot of difference between memory kits of the same speed and timings.

 

Memory speed and timings are important but not critical. Modern cpu for the most part do better with speeds over 3000. That said, some chipset / cpu combinations in the Intel world limit memory speeds.

 

Corsair memory will deliver it's advertised speed and timings when properly installed in a compatible system.

 

For a budget system get the least expensive two stick kit of ddr4-3200 or faster with cl18 or lower.

 

NVMe storage speed differences are not material in budget systems. 

 

Definitely do not use a SATA SSD over an m.2 NVMe drive. Use SATA SSD when budget does not permit an NVMe drive.

 

80+ ratings certify electrical efficiency. Not quality.

 

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