Mesh sidepanel

[Somerandomtechyboi]

Considering that i used mosquito mesh (cause cheap) with ~4mm holes, this should be equivalent to running without the case sidepanel and the temps seem to stay the same as when i ran this thing without the case sidepanel (prolonged temp ~68-69(noice) 4.05ghz 1.28v, and yes i am using an old lga 775 stock cooler with a copper core

 

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Have there been cases with a completely mesh sidepanel before?

 

And if there arent many cases with full mesh sidepanels, why is a mesh front panel preffered? And why not go for a mesh sidepanel instead?

 

 

And yes i did attach the mesh with cheapo neodymium magnets, though if you look at it from the top or front the mesh is really uneven since idk how to make the stupid mesh not curl up

[suedseefrucht]

1 minute ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Have there been cases with a completely mesh sidepanel before?

Phanteks evolv shift air, 

Shift 2 air. 

 

People like to see their hardware through a glass panel. That's the reason. 

[Somerandomtechyboi]

1 minute ago, suedseefrucht said:

People like to see their hardware through a glass panel. That's the reason. 

Hmm makes sense

 

 

Tbh if someone is willing to diy a transparent sidepanel then i guess cheap mosquito mesh is a pretty good option if you compare it to acrylic

 

Acrylic you have to cut your existing sidepanel, not to mention needing dremels and sht

 

Mosquito mesh its just a matter of cutting it with scissors and sticking it on your case with magnets

 

Though mosquite mesh is pretty sharp around the edges and can either cut or prick you

 

 

I wonder if i should just have it attached directly to the case via magnets or should i add abit of metal around the edges for extra rigidity

[Dedayog]

13 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Considering that i used mosquito mesh (cause cheap) with ~4mm holes, this should be equivalent to running without the case sidepanel and the temps seem to stay the same as when i ran this thing without the case sidepanel (prolonged temp ~68-69(noice) 4.05ghz 1.28v, and yes i am using an old lga 775 stock cooler with a copper core

 

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Have there been cases with a completely mesh sidepanel before?

 

And if there arent many cases with full mesh sidepanels, why is a mesh front panel preffered? And why not go for a mesh sidepanel instead?

 

 

And yes i did attach the mesh with cheapo neodymium magnets, though if you look at it from the top or front the mesh is really uneven since idk how to make the stupid mesh not curl up

Mesh front aids in airflow, where as a side mesh does not.  Sure, you have access to air but a wind tunnel or hairdryer effect is preferred.

 

That said, your side panel is nicely done ad doesn't have any of the glare that a glass side panel does.  Interesting, I like it.

[thrasher_565]

front intake is better for tower coolers to flow from the front to the back. side intake would be better for down draft coolers and exhaust for the gpu. intake for the bottom for gpu is ideal but most have a basement.

 

for a top aio a mesh side could help. not so much from a front aio unless its exhaust too.

[Somerandomtechyboi]

5 minutes ago, thrasher_565 said:

front intake is better for tower coolers to flow from the front to the back. side intake would be better for down draft coolers and exhaust for the gpu. intake for the bottom for gpu is ideal but most have a basement.

 

for a top aio a mesh side could help. not so much from a front aio unless its exhaust too.

Considering that ill be using cases that basically have solid front panels i think a mesh sidepanel would be a pretty big upgrade, plus its cheaper than 2 fans for intake and exhaust (sidepanel + magnets ~ 1$)

 

Though i guess if i use a tower cooler for the cpu and actually have a gpu in the system, maybe ill go half mesh sidepanel, solid top, mesh bottom

 

Then again ill just use cheapo custom water since copper waterblocks, atleast the cheapest i could find are around 15-20$ + cheapo 240mm rad for 15$ + cheapo 4$ pump

 

 

So for cheapo custom water since i dont wanna hack case sidepanels with an f ing dremel and instead use a mesh sidepanel, if i put the rad on the side of the case via zipties, should i have it be intake or exhaust?

 

Cause im leaning more towards intake since i can mount the rad above the gpu and have a 92mm exhaust fan, but then ill have to do a pull config since ill be using thicc 48v server fans (ill power em with a boost converter)

[Somerandomtechyboi]

20 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

That said, your side panel is nicely done ad doesn't have any of the glare that a glass side panel does.  Interesting, I like it.

I think the picture is hiding the fact that the sidepanel is uneven asf

 

For a description id say it looks like paper that was crumpled then re opened into a sheet

 

 

Well atleast if you dont look at it up close it doesnt look too bad since the color hides the uneveness, though yea for future builds ill consider keeping the mesh more even or just putting some metal on the edges for rigiditu

[thrasher_565]

20 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Considering that ill be using cases that basically have solid front panels i think a mesh sidepanel would be a pretty big upgrade, plus its cheaper than 2 fans for intake and exhaust (sidepanel + magnets ~ 1$)

 

Though i guess if i use a tower cooler for the cpu and actually have a gpu in the system, maybe ill go half mesh sidepanel, solid top, mesh bottom

 

Then again ill just use cheapo custom water since copper waterblocks, atleast the cheapest i could find are around 15-20$ + cheapo 240mm rad for 15$ + cheapo 4$ pump

 

 

So for cheapo custom water since i dont wanna hack case sidepanels with an f ing dremel and instead use a mesh sidepanel, if i put the rad on the side of the case via zipties, should i have it be intake or exhaust?

 

Cause im leaning more towards intake since i can mount the rad above the gpu and have a 92mm exhaust fan, but then ill have to do a pull config since ill be using thicc 48v server fans (ill power em with a boost converter)

ya the mesh idea is a good mod.

 

i think thick rad and powerful fans is not need but you do you.

 

for my build i want to water cool my 775 98se build for the gpu i got a 6800 pcie but have not deiced on buying an pcie 6800 ultra, or an x850 platinum. i found some in the $300 range but i dont want to get scammed and dont have proof of it working...

i was thinking on trying an 8800 gt and i can get a water block for it but i dont no.

was trying to get a quad core working with 98se but having a hard time. i guess i should be happy with what i got right? (i no 98se dose not use more then 1 core)

[Somerandomtechyboi]

7 minutes ago, thrasher_565 said:

ya the mesh idea is a good mod.

 

i think thick rad and powerful fans is not need but you do you.

 

for my build i want to water cool my 775 98se build for the gpu i got a 6800 pcie but have not deiced on buying an pcie 6800 ultra, or an x850 platinum. i found some in the $300 range but i dont want to get scammed and dont have proof of it working...

i was thinking on trying an 8800 gt and i can get a water block for it but i dont no.

was trying to get a quad core working with 98se but having a hard time. i guess i should be happy with what i got right? (i no 98se dose not use more then 1 core)

A retro gaming build?

What board and cpu do you have?

 

And yea watercooling is pretty uneccesary even if you do overclock, my 92mm cheap chinese tower is able to handle an e5400 4.5ghz 1.5v around 85c, and when i tried 1.44v 4.5ghz with my e8400 it goes to around 80c

 

So unless you want a really high clockspeed (4.8ghz+) then water is completely uneccesary

[thrasher_565]

1 minute ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

A retro gaming build?

What board and cpu do you have?

 

And yea watercooling is pretty uneccesary even if you do overclock, my 92mm cheap chinese tower is able to handle an e5400 4.5ghz 1.5v around 85c, and when i tried 1.44v 4.5ghz with my e8400 it goes to around 80c

 

So unless you want a really high clockspeed (4.8ghz+) then water is completely uneccesary

 

[Somerandomtechyboi]

1 minute ago, thrasher_565 said:

 

Yeaaa

 

P5kpl is kinda crap, you need to use a sata controller card to go over 400fsb since over 400fsb hdds just dont get detected anymore, and p5kpl seems to bios limit at 500fsb for some reason, prob just typical asus bios crippling

 

the best g31 boards from gigabyte seem to go ~530-540fsb if you have 1066 ram, issue being the northbridge voltage is too low and you cant adjust it in bios so youll get around 450fsb without the ram crapping out on you, if you wanna screw around with nb volts youll have to do some voltmodding and that is gonna be a pain in the ass esp if you dont have the datasheets for the voltage control ics

 

Never go single channel ram, ive observed around 30% diff in performance when using single vs dual channel

 

E6300 has a multi of 7, which is absolutely horrendous and its a 65nm cpu so pretty garbage at overclocking since over 3.2ghz requires a ton of voltage, just get an e8400 and run it at stock volts at 3.6ghz or ~4ghz (if e0 stepping and you get a sata controller card)

 

 

I dont think watercooling is neccesary at all here, no extreme overclocking and these components at stock volts run pretty cool anyways

[thrasher_565]

3 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Yeaaa

 

P5kpl is kinda crap, you need to use a sata controller card to go over 400fsb since over 400fsb hdds just dont get detected anymore, and p5kpl seems to bios limit at 500fsb for some reason, prob just typical asus bios crippling

 

the best g31 boards from gigabyte seem to go ~530-540fsb if you have 1066 ram, issue being the northbridge voltage is too low and you cant adjust it in bios so youll get around 450fsb without the ram crapping out on you, if you wanna screw around with nb volts youll have to do some voltmodding and that is gonna be a pain in the ass esp if you dont have the datasheets for the voltage control ics

 

Never go single channel ram, ive observed around 30% diff in performance when using single vs dual channel

 

E6300 has a multi of 7, which is absolutely horrendous and its a 65nm cpu so pretty garbage at overclocking since over 3.2ghz requires a ton of voltage, just get an e8400 and run it at stock volts at 3.6ghz or ~4ghz (if e0 stepping and you get a sata controller card)

 

 

I dont think watercooling is neccesary at all here, no extreme overclocking and these components at stock volts run pretty cool anyways

ya i have not got to overclocking yet. i think im trying to want the perfect build but dont have the knowledge of oc or what im really doing so probably what i got now might be the best.

 

ya i have been looking for a set of 4 stick of ram off eaby but can only find 2 sticks...

 

the perfect build. 6800 ultra/x850/ fire gl 7950/ ddr 3 mb, passably sli, 4core with Xeon X5450. i got a peach to work so installing more then 1gb ram but its buggy in the cpuz

 

the fastest mb with chipset drivers is this asus p5pe-vm. that msi mb has drivers as well but is not stable locks up.

 

what pci sata controller you recommend? could that be why some ssd takes 8 hours to do a format? i do have a 150gbwd vlocaraptor  hdd witch i might try.

[W-L]

On 9/15/2021 at 12:50 PM, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Considering that i used mosquito mesh (cause cheap) with ~4mm holes, this should be equivalent to running without the case sidepanel and the temps seem to stay the same as when i ran this thing without the case sidepanel (prolonged temp ~68-69(noice) 4.05ghz 1.28v, and yes i am using an old lga 775 stock cooler with a copper core

 

  Reveal hidden contents

 

Have there been cases with a completely mesh sidepanel before?

 

And if there arent many cases with full mesh sidepanels, why is a mesh front panel preffered? And why not go for a mesh sidepanel instead?

 

 

And yes i did attach the mesh with cheapo neodymium magnets, though if you look at it from the top or front the mesh is really uneven since idk how to make the stupid mesh not curl up

If you want to match the retro style the Antec Lanboy if you can find one is probably as much mesh as it gets with still being an enclosure. 

[thrasher_565]

10 hours ago, W-L said:

If you want to match the retro style the Antec Lanboy if you can find one is probably as much mesh as it gets with still being an enclosure. 

hard to find and cost like $300-$500 but ya...

[Somerandomtechyboi]

12 hours ago, W-L said:

If you want to match the retro style the Antec Lanboy if you can find one is probably as much mesh as it gets with still being an enclosure. 

I dont really care about style as much as i care about performance but ill look into this mesh case