First PC Build. Need Advice.

[Shoyo]

Budget (including currency):  ~ $3000

Country: US

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: some programming + heavy gaming. Games: Destiny/Overwatch/Wow/Horizon Zero Dawn/Mass Effect remaster.

Other details: already have 1440p/144hz monitor and corsair keyboard + mouse.

Build: https://newegg.io/e577b5e

 

Some notes on the build I assembled: I know the 3080ti is a ripoff compared to how little you gain from the 3080, but I needed a placeholder. Ideally I would take the 3080 if I could get MSRP, but who wouldn't. I'm sure the ram is overkill but it looks like it had great reviews and didn't break the budget. I have some big concerns about the case. I don't want one that's too heavy bc my brother bought a steel case and it was an anchor. Also, and probably more importantly I want the case to have good airflow and be able to fit the chonky GPU, coolers, and ram. Not sure if any of this stuff fits. Also is this a good motherboard and is it compatible with all these things? The water cooling freaks me out because I'm lazy and I fear if there is a lot of maintenance or accidents everything is screwed? I also want to learn and play with overclocking but want my fan to be quiet. is that possible? The CPU has to have a K in it to overclock right?  Lastly do I have enough power for all this and is it a reliable brand? Thanks for listening to this idiot ramble.

 

 

[Dr0idGh0sT]

You have a two oversights.

First, Get a better cooler,  Especially because you want to overclock.

Good coolers:

Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black

be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4

Deepcool ASSASSIN III

 

That drive is expensive garbage especially because Samsung started changing components in it and making slower. So don't buy it. here's list of some good drives

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Dr0idGh0sT/saved/#view=Ndmwgs

I would advise SX8200 or SN750

 

Add 2 or 3 fan and that's all.

Other parts looks reasonable.

[Shoyo]

What kind of fans would you recommend/they aren't the same as coolers? Also is my case big enough for more fans?  Thanks for the advice on the boot drive though! 

[Somerandomtechyboi]

Some general tweaks/upgrades

 

Swapping the case for a p400a (add an extra fsk fan for exhaust

 

Swapping overpriced asf corsair crap for cheaper alternatives such as 3200mhz silicon power turbine rgb or tforce delta rgb (3200mhz cl16 is equal to 3600mhz cl18)

 

Swap the cooler for a dark rock pro 4 or if you want to go for aio liquid freezer 360/420

 

Swapping the obselete overpriced ssd for a kingston a2000 or mushkin pilot e

 

Buying windows 10 off sites like scdkey where you can get em for ~20$, some youtubers even have promocodes for it

 

 

If you arent overclocking

 

Ditch intel and go straight for amd since the only way intel can gain an advantage over amd is ocing, if you dont the performance will be the same though cpu will run like a nuclear reactor and shoot your power bills through the roof

[Shoyo]

Wait are you saying if I dont overclock the cpu will run like a nuclear reactor?

[Shoyo]

Would I still see really good results out of an AMD CPU without having to play with over clocking?

[Jonathan Lee]

33 minutes ago, Shoyo said:

Would I still see really good results out of an AMD CPU without having to play with over clocking?

All you have to do is enable PBO in the BIOS and it will run it's boost clocks as long as there is enough thermal headroom. It's the same with Intel though. You would have to enable MCE and lift Power limits to get the rated boost clocks. Most CPU's are now tuned to their max potential, so overclocking only really adds about 1-2% performance with a huge temp and power increase. AMD has a higher IPC than Intel so generally it will preform better. By how much? maybe 5-10% I honestly don't think you would notice much of a difference if you're not constantly looking a benchmarks.

[Shoyo]

1 hour ago, Jonathan Lee said:

All you have to do is enable PBO in the BIOS and it will run it's boost clocks as long as there is enough thermal headroom. It's the same with Intel though. You would have to enable MCE and lift Power limits to get the rated boost clocks. Most CPU's are now tuned to their max potential, so overclocking only really adds about 1-2% performance with a huge temp and power increase. AMD has a higher IPC than Intel so generally it will preform better. By how much? maybe 5-10% I honestly don't think you would notice much of a difference if you're not constantly looking a benchmarks.

Interesting! I will definitely have to do more reseach into this. The risk of overclocking does scare me for sinking this much money into it. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm 

[Bron_]

18 hours ago, Dr0idGh0sT said:

You have a two oversights.

First, Get a better cooler,  Especially because you want to overclock.

Good coolers:

Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black

be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4

Deepcool ASSASSIN III

 

That drive is expensive garbage especially because Samsung started changing components in it and making slower. So don't buy it. here's list of some good drives

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Dr0idGh0sT/saved/#view=Ndmwgs

I would advise SX8200 or SN750

 

Add 2 or 3 fan and that's all.

Other parts looks reasonable.

I agree with you. The Samsung 970 evo plus is way to expensive when you can get a sn 750 with similar read and write speeds for around 20 to 25 dollars cheaper. 

[Herman Mcpootis]

20 hours ago, Dr0idGh0sT said:

 

I would advise SX8200 

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/adata-switches-nand-on-sx8200-pro-ssd-performance-impacted

[Dr0idGh0sT]

4 hours ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/adata-switches-nand-on-sx8200-pro-ssd-performance-impacted

They too?

What drives should we buy? SK hynix?

You can't find any trust worthy brand nowadays