800$ 3060 pc

[Jake7856]

Budget (including currency): 750 usd

Country: usa

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Minecraft, Roblox/studio,blender,valorant, rocket league

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): I already have a tx750 w psu and 1 tb HDD I want a rtx 3060 and want to be able to oc (I DONT CARE ABOUT LOOKS) (EVERY THING MUST BE AVAILABLE AT MICRO CENTER BC PRICE MATCH)

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mtyX4d

 

[Bombastinator]

Oh.  You want one.  I thought you’d found one and were crowing about it.  My understanding is the issue with microcenter and GPUs is you have to sign up in the morning for a list that is a sort of a lottery or something and you kinda get what you get.  If you know what you want I suggest getting ahold of a video card first, see what money you have, and we can build a system around it. 

[Somerandomtechyboi]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TmZRrr

Still 50$ overbudget ;-;

[SorryBella]

1 hour ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TmZRrr

Still 50$ overbudget ;-;

Last gen 10400F is pretty much the same in perf, sooooo:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-10400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($150.99 @ Adorama)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer 34 CO CPU Cooler  ($30.35 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B560M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($73.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 980 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($0.00)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 3060 12 GB XC GAMING Video Card  ($400.00)
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P300A Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair TX 750 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  ($0.00)
Total: $805.31
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-08-21 01:35 EDT-0400

[Somerandomtechyboi]

2 minutes ago, SorryClaire said:

Last gen 10400F is pretty much the same in perf, sooooo:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-10400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($150.99 @ Adorama)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer 34 CO CPU Cooler  ($30.35 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B560M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($73.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 980 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($0.00)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 3060 12 GB XC GAMING Video Card  ($400.00)
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P300A Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair TX 750 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  ($0.00)
Total: $805.31
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-08-21 01:35 EDT-0400

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HtZRrr

I guess just swapping the cpu for a 10400f and yeeting one of the fans is enough to get it to not be overbudget

[Jake7856]

9 hours ago, SorryClaire said:

Last gen 10400F is pretty much the same in perf, sooooo:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-10400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($150.99 @ Adorama)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer 34 CO CPU Cooler  ($30.35 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B560M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($73.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 980 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($0.00)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 3060 12 GB XC GAMING Video Card  ($400.00)
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P300A Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair TX 750 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  ($0.00)
Total: $805.31
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-08-21 01:35 EDT-0400

i would ike to buy every thing at micro center and be able to oc

[Jake7856]

9 hours ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HtZRrr

I guess just swapping the cpu for a 10400f and yeeting one of the fans is enough to get it to not be overbudget

i would ike to buy every thing at micro center and be able to oc

[SorryBella]

3 minutes ago, Jake7856 said:

i would ike to buy every thing at micro center and be able to oc

Overclocking is dead, especially for CPU. Good luck trying to muster any more than 1-5FPS off a CPU overclocks, and compared to GPU and RAM overclocking, those 2 will gain you more than mere CPU overclock, which B560 supports rather easily.

 

Also, if youre shopping physically, always just go for whats available while keeping most of the performance-affecting parts the same.

[Bombastinator]

3 minutes ago, Jake7856 said:

i would ike to buy every thing at micro center and be able to oc

I would like to have the things wrong with my brain gone and be 30 years younger.

[Somerandomtechyboi]

36 minutes ago, SorryClaire said:

Overclocking is dead, especially for CPU. Good luck trying to muster any more than 1-5FPS off a CPU overclocks, and compared to GPU and RAM overclocking, those 2 will gain you more than mere CPU overclock, which B560 supports rather easily.

 

Also, if youre shopping physically, always just go for whats available while keeping most of the performance-affecting parts the same.

Yep

 

The days of getting a massive cpu performance boost by ocing are now gone since most cpus nowadays already boost really high and to even get a noticable imporvement you will have to mess with dynamic oc and also shove a ton of voltage through your cpu

 

Though for cpus with lower boost clocks near 4ghz theres still potential to get abit more performance such as the 3100 and 3300x but not much really compared to overclocking a 2500k to 5ghz

[SorryBella]

1 minute ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

still potential to get abit more performance such as the 3100 and 3300x

Still wont mask the fact that you practically kneecap yourself 4 threads down of what you need to run DX 12 and Vulkan titles optimally.

[Bombastinator]

3 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Yep

 

The days of getting a massive cpu performance boost by ocing are now gone since most cpus nowadays already boost really high and to even get a noticable imporvement you will have to mess with dynamic oc and also shove a ton of voltage through your cpu

 

Though for cpus with lower boost clocks near 4ghz theres still potential to get abit more performance such as the 3100 and 3300x but not much really compared to overclocking a 2500k to 5ghz

Yeah it used to be more of a “insane not to OC no matter what you had” thing. I understand gain are more like 10% to 15%.  Sometimes less rather than the 40% that was pretty common for a while.  It’s a more iffy thing these days. I wouldn’t say it’s dead exactly, but it’s definitely not what it once was.  I think a lot of it was the CPU manufacturers saying “but I want to be able to sell that performance boost myself and I design the chips” so boosting became a thing.  Looking at the base clock of a chip will often tell you where the thing would be without boosting.

Edited August 21, 2021 by Bombastinator

[Somerandomtechyboi]

Just now, Bombastinator said:

Yeah it used to be more of a “insane not to OC no matter what you had” thing. I understand gain are more like 10% to 15%.  Sometimes less.  It’s a more iffy thing these days. 

Nowadays oc is basically not worth it unless you are an ocing nut and want your cpu to go as fast as possible or have an unlocked cpu that has a low boost clock

 

When ocing for me i gain around 30-50% since i just oc it as far as it will go since my old core cpus dont even have turbo boost so you just crank up the fsb as high as you can till ram just dies or your cooler gives up

 

These days its only a marginal improvement, just leave your cpu alone and just oc the sht out of the ram, that will prob give you more performance then ocing the cpu

[Bombastinator]

Just now, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Nowadays oc is basically not worth it unless you are an ocing nut and want your cpu to go as fast as possible or have an unlocked cpu that has a low boost clock

 

When ocing for me i gain around 30-50% since i just oc it as far as it will go since my old core cpus dont even have turbo boost so you just crank up the fsb as high as you can till ram just dies or your cooler gives up

 

These days its only a marginal improvement, just leave your cpu alone and just oc the sht out of the ram, that will prob give you more performance then ocing the cpu

Depends on the behavior of the chip and what the additional gear will cost to get what performance benefit you can.  Very often the math doesn’t make sense though, and some chips won’t overclock functionally much at all period.  Ryzen2 often has that issue. Ryze1 and ryzen+ were generally better over lockers than ryzen2 but you could see the potential disappearing as the generation went up.

[Somerandomtechyboi]

6 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

Depends on the behavior of the chip and what the additional gear will cost to get what performance benefit you can.  Very often the math doesn’t make sense though, and some chips won’t overclock functionally much at all period.  Ryzen2 often has that issue. Ryze1 and ryzen+ were generally better over lockers than ryzen2 but you could see the potential disappearing as the generation went up.

Yea

 

At this point just buy some ludicrously fast but somewhat decently priced rams such as viper steel 4400mhz and just overclock the absolute sht out of it, that will prob gain you some performance

 

And instead of overclocking the cpu, just undervolt it for better efficiency and cooler temps

 

If i ever get enough money i will consider a system that is not a decade old one, but ill prob only overclock the sht out of the ram and undervolt the cpu for regular usage

[Jake7856]

would this be good?https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LDsX4d

 

[Bombastinator]

39 minutes ago, Jake7856 said:

would this be good?https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LDsX4d

 

Does that case come with any fans at all in it?    Also, putting another $5-$10 into memory could speed the thing up.  Not a lot of extra money for faster ram at that price.  Intel lake stuff is traditionally less sensitive to memory speed than ryzen.

[Jake7856]

2 hours ago, Bombastinator said:

Does that case come with any fans at all in it?    Also, putting another $5-$10 into memory could speed the thing up.  Not a lot of extra money for faster ram at that price.  Intel lake stuff is traditionally less sensitive to memory speed than ryzen.

Wait so what should I upgrade

 about the ram.

[Jake7856]

2 hours ago, Bombastinator said:

Does that case come with any fans at all in it?    Also, putting another $5-$10 into memory could speed the thing up.  Not a lot of extra money for faster ram at that price.  Intel lake stuff is traditionally less sensitive to memory speed than ryzen.

The speed or the amount of ram

 

[Bombastinator]

16 minutes ago, Jake7856 said:

The speed or the amount of ram

 

Speed. As a general rule there’s no reason to have more than 16gb of ram unless one is doing things that can make use of it like image editing.  Double channel double rank is also nice.  Get a speed boost from that.

[SorryBella]

5 hours ago, Jake7856 said:

would this be good?https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LDsX4d

 

Ill go for a better motherboard but its not bad. I would go for the MX130 myself or any mesh case available but itll get you by.