How do I check if my monitor is truly 1ms gtg?

[Guts]

I've tried Eizo site but I don't understand what do I look for on the two bars moving... also there are no numbers there to tell me if is 1ms or not, is there no way to test this out? should I blindly trust the specs of the manufacturer? 

 

 

[Skiiwee29]

1ms gtg is a tough one. If its a popular monitor, you can check sites like Rting who do extensive testing on monitors for things like this or check Youtube reviews if available from Hardware unboxed. Not sure of others reviews on YT that would test this properly or not, but I trust these 2 sources personally. 

[Guts]

1 minute ago, Skiiwee29 said:

1ms gtg is a tough one. If its a popular monitor, you can check sites like Rting who do extensive testing on monitors for things like this or check Youtube reviews if available from Hardware unboxed. Not sure of others reviews on YT that would test this properly or not, but I trust these 2 sources personally. 

Sadly it's a chinese knock off rebrand on my country.. so there isn't much of it online. The site of the brand in question claims that it is 1ms g2g but on the manual says "typical response time 8ms" but doesn't remarks if it's or not g2g. Which is why I started researching this whole thing.. 

ill check that Rting site u recommended me.

 

Thanks!

[Skiiwee29]

1 minute ago, Guts said:

Sadly it's a chinese knock off rebrand on my country.. so there isn't much of it online. The site of the brand in question claims that it is 1ms g2g but on the manual says "typical response time 8ms" but doesn't remarks if it's or not g2g. Which is why I started researching this whole thing.. 

ill check that Rting site u recommended me.

 

Thanks!

Even high end monitors that boast 1ms gtg is not all, or even an average.. thats just best case, most times its usually between 3-6ms best case for most which is still 100% acceptable. 

[Guts]

2 minutes ago, Skiiwee29 said:

Even high end monitors that boast 1ms gtg is not all, or even an average.. thats just best case, most times its usually between 3-6ms best case for most which is still 100% acceptable. 

so it's all marketing the "1ms" thing? either way like u say 3 6ms but 8ms already too high for a monitor that claims to be 1ms even on the front of the box.

 

I've checked the site you've provided me really cool site sadly nothing on my monitor like I was already suspecting lol.

 

I've used a 4k 60hz TV for like 3 years and never had an issue, I got a brand new IPS monitor 144hz for 1 day and already experienced ghosting, stuck pixel and now this ms thingy lol. Maybe I shouldn't be so nitpicking everything.

 

 

Thanks once again for trying to help me out mate, have a good day!

[xg32]

1 hour ago, Guts said:

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1ms is usually when the monitor overshoots like crazy just to get 1.75ms (rounded down to 1), oled has true 1ms. Actual response time with input lag is usually 4-7ms for good monitors.

 

 

[Guts]

1 hour ago, xg32 said:

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so the fact the manual says Response Time 8ms is normal? is it the same for VA panels cos I heard their faster then IPS. Btw while in front of the box just says 1ms alone I've looked at the side of the box and it actually says 1ms (mprt) along with all the feature on small font of course. Already watched a video about it and I know what it means which is hilarious cos this thing does has some ghosting so I don't know how true that 1ms MPRT really is.

 

Maybe is true when ppl say "ignorance is a bless" the more I know about this whole thing the more I get upset lol.

 

 

Regardless thanks a lot for the info I do appreciate it!

[xg32]

1 hour ago, Guts said:

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hardware unboxed us the best channel for this type of content, as long as i don't see the ghosting a bit of marketing bs on a quality product is fine,

 

my monitor's 144hz mode is techincally a 120hz oc that's pretty unusable, while the new models have 7ms for 120hz which is BARELY acceptable at base specs with some ppl reporting problems.

 

 

for people with the space and setup for an oled on their pc and consoles, it's great, that video also has the true specs on many popular monitors.

[Guts]

20 minutes ago, xg32 said:

 

wow OLED is the answer... ok so I only need to rob a bank, no problem!

 

Btw I found the MPRT within my monitor options but I can't stand over it to enable it, any idea why? I've checked the manual and it says nothing helpful (shocker) it only says is there to enable and disable it and that's it lol.

[Stahlmann]

While there are many monitors that boast 1ms response times, there is not a single one that actually is a 1ms monitor. Like you've seen in the video mentioned above, the only way to get a true 1ms display is to get an OLED TV. The other technologies are technically just not capable of a 1ms response time. And like @xg32 said they like to round a 1.99ms value to 1ms marketing. And these response times are only achieved with extreme mounts of overshoot (also known as inverse ghosting) so the resulting picture is actually worse than the slower modes.

 

Generally the most important thing is that the response times are good enough to keep up with their monitors refresh rate. Ghosting is the result of a slow pixel that has to change to the next color before it even finished the transition to the current one. Technically 16.67ms is good enough to display 60Hz. And even for a 240Hz monitor 4.17ms is still fast enough.

 

That's not to say a true 1ms display like the OLED TVs is useless. The faster the response times are, the clearer the image will be no matter what refresh rate you're at. A 120Hz OLED with 1ms response times is about as clear as a standard 240Hz monitor with 4ms response times.

[Doobeedoo]

Yeah if it's not OLED it's definitely not 1ms LCD is just slow and it's marketed like so with overdrive and all.

[SolarNova]

11 hours ago, Guts said:

wow OLED is the answer... ok so I only need to rob a bank, no problem!

 

Btw I found the MPRT within my monitor options but I can't stand over it to enable it, any idea why? I've checked the manual and it says nothing helpful (shocker) it only says is there to enable and disable it and that's it lol.

Chances are its a BFI implementation which doesnt work with variable refresh enabled.

 

FYI u can do a DIY test for response time by using the UFO test and setting up a camera mount on a sliding rail. You slide the camera along the rail taking pictures trying to get a perfect speed match with the UFO moving across the screen. Once u find a perfect image u can compare it against reviews to see how to holds up.

This wont give u a figure, but will give u the ability to visually compare.

https://blurbusters.com/motion-tests/pursuit-camera