High cpu temp?

[Mando772004]

i notice my 5800x reaches sometimes high 70s low 80s while gaming and my ambient temp is around 26-28c. is this normal or not? im cooling the cpu with a magcore liquid 360r. cinebench scores are good but the cpu ramps up to 90c instantly. re applied thermal paste btw

[suedseefrucht]

5 minutes ago, InfernalClaw said:

i notice my 5800x reaches sometimes high 70s low 80s while gaming

That's fine. Performance will suffer if it hits 90 °C.
 

6 minutes ago, InfernalClaw said:

cinebench scores are good but the cpu ramps up to 90c instantly.

Which clock speed was reached?
It should stay under 90 °C when it runs at 4.7 GHz (Max. clock speed).

 

Maybe it is auto overclocking until it hits 90 °C when you use cinebench.

[Mando772004]

10 hours ago, suedseefrucht said:

That's fine. Performance will suffer if it hits 90 °C.
 

Which clock speed was reached?
It should stay under 90 °C when it runs at 4.7 GHz (Max. clock speed).

 

Maybe it is auto overclocking until it hits 90 °C when you use cinebench.

it hits 4.5ghz on all cores on cinebench

[Gohardgrandpa]

That's crazy with a 360mm aio. Is the 5800x that bad temp wise normally? 

 

I ran a I9 10850k with a 280mm aio and it didn't get that hot

[Mando772004]

8 hours ago, Gohardgrandpa said:

That's crazy with a 360mm aio. Is the 5800x that bad temp wise normally? 

 

I ran a I9 10850k with a 280mm aio and it didn't get that hot

i honestly dont know

[Mando772004]

to make it short, i got a new cooler (Kraken X63) and first launch my temps in game and everything was ok but after a while when i launched discord and my rgb apps, temps start to get high. im pretty sure it isnt a cooler mounting issue cuz this also happened on my older cooler which i mounted well and so is this one. im not sure if its my windows full of shit or my cpu is just hot af. i could be on my desktop and have temps of 60+ and in game could reach upwards of 85. i know for a fact i have good cooling in my h500p case cuz my friend has way less space and gets way lower temps with a 3950x and a kraken x62 cooler. just want to know what can i do? or is this just normal behaviour and the people i see on youtube with a 5800x are just more lucky

[Middcore]

Your case (unless you meant the improved H500P Mesh) is known to have poor ventilation.

 

 

You can swap between overpriced coolers all you want, but if air can't get into the case it's going to make precious little difference. 

[Mando772004]

1 minute ago, Middcore said:

Your case (unless you meant the improved H500P Mesh) is known to have poor ventilation.

 

 

You can swap between overpriced coolers all you want, but if air can't get into the case it's going to make precious little difference. 

thing is even if i remove the front panel which yes isnt mesh the temps are the same

[Blazko]

These 5xxx series seem to run pretty hot tbh. Thing that worked for me (w/ a 5900x) to really lower down the temps (else I was getting same temps as you) was to disable the "core performance boost" in the bios. I then slightly upped the core multiplier (went from 37 to 40), now I get decent temps (-20°c) w/ perf ok (see there for more details). This afternoon I turned the CPB backed on, disabled the PBO limit and then put some negative values (-10) on the Curve Optimizer to undervolt a bit, I then got pretty good scores on Cinebench (stable too w/ Aida64) of 1611 for single core and 21151 on multi (pretty cool for a simple oc) but temps went from 45 min to 80 :s. So I just went back to disable the CPB again w/ my slight increase on the CoreMulti, more than enough for the games I play. 

[Mando772004]

2 hours ago, Blazko said:

These 5xxx series seem to run pretty hot tbh. Thing that worked for me (w/ a 5900x) to really lower down the temps (else I was getting same temps as you) was to disable the "core performance boost" in the bios. I then slightly upped the core multiplier (went from 37 to 40), now I get decent temps (-20°c) w/ perf ok (see there for more details). This afternoon I turned the CPB backed on, disabled the PBO limit and then put some negative values (-10) on the Curve Optimizer to undervolt a bit, I then got pretty good scores on Cinebench (stable too w/ Aida64) of 1611 for single core and 21151 on multi (pretty cool for a simple oc) but temps went from 45 min to 80 :s. So I just went back to disable the CPB again w/ my slight increase on the CoreMulti, more than enough for the games I play. 

will it decrease performance in games by a great margin?

[Mando772004]

2 hours ago, Blazko said:

These 5xxx series seem to run pretty hot tbh. Thing that worked for me (w/ a 5900x) to really lower down the temps (else I was getting same temps as you) was to disable the "core performance boost" in the bios. I then slightly upped the core multiplier (went from 37 to 40), now I get decent temps (-20°c) w/ perf ok (see there for more details). This afternoon I turned the CPB backed on, disabled the PBO limit and then put some negative values (-10) on the Curve Optimizer to undervolt a bit, I then got pretty good scores on Cinebench (stable too w/ Aida64) of 1611 for single core and 21151 on multi (pretty cool for a simple oc) but temps went from 45 min to 80 :s. So I just went back to disable the CPB again w/ my slight increase on the CoreMulti, more than enough for the games I play. 

i tried it and my cinebench scores are way lower which means im gonna get probably a huge degrade in performance in games. i guess ill just stick to default settings but im just confused because i never see people even reach the 70s while gaming on their 5800x. and my ambient temps are good

[Blazko]

20 hours ago, InfernalClaw said:

confused because i never see people even reach the 70s while gaming on their 5800x

You sure about that ? We'd need more intel on their setup and they'd need to specify if their CPB is enabled or not because I dont really believe you can achieve these temps unless w/ a very specific setup and still...I often see people talking about 80+ while gaming. Of course it'll also depends on the game you're playing on. 

 

20 hours ago, InfernalClaw said:

will it decrease performance in games by a great margin?

Like you, my Cinebench scores are lower (singlecore around 1310 versus 1610 w/ CPB on and tweak of the CO) "but" I honestly did not feel at all the difference in game (game here = call of duty), I was still achieving over 220 fps in 1440p w/ max settings almost everywhere (few things disabled that I dont like, like motion blur). 

So I think it'd be worth for you to at least try a game to see if you really observe a downgrade (cuz if you're saving 20°C like I am, I think that's worth trying  ).  

[Mando772004]

1 minute ago, Blazko said:

You sure about that ? We'd need more intel on their setup and they'd need to specify if their CPB is enabled or not because I dont really believe you can achieve these temps unless w/ a very specific setup and still...I often see people talking about 80+ while gaming. Of course it'll also depends on the game you're playing on. 

 

Like you, my Cinebench scores are lower (singlecore around 1310 versus 1610 w/ CPB on and tweak of the CO) "but" I honestly did not feel at all the difference in game (game here = call of duty), I was still achieving over 220 fps in 1440p w/ max settings almost everywhere (few things disabled that I dont like, like motion blur). 

So I think it'd be worth for you to at least try a game to see if you really observe a downgrade (cuz if you're saving 20°C like I am, I think that's worth trying  ).  

alright thank you!

[NorKris]

Its intresting how many ppl on this forum that complain about temps on these msi/pump in radiator coolers. 

I guess they bad

[Blazko]

14 hours ago, NorKris said:

Its intresting how many ppl on this forum that complain about temps on these msi/pump in radiator coolers. 

I guess they bad

Not so sure, here the OP said he switched from the msi to a Kraken x63 (a 280 mm from nzxt), and I also got a kraken (a z73, a 360mm also from nzxt).

I would be very curious to see the difference one day with another cooler on my cpu (aio or not), but I'm pretty sure the z73 is doing his job and that this 5xxx series from amd is (like I've seen some other people mention) "hot" by nature (at least when it's turbo-ing :)). 

[Mando772004]

6 hours ago, Blazko said:

Not so sure, here the OP said he switched from the msi to a Kraken x63 (a 280 mm from nzxt), and I also got a kraken (a z73, a 360mm also from nzxt).

I would be very curious to see the difference one day with another cooler on my cpu (aio or not), but I'm pretty sure the z73 is doing his job and that this 5xxx series from amd is (like I've seen some other people mention) "hot" by nature (at least when it's turbo-ing :)). 

it isnt a cooler issue, its just the cpu