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Trying to figure out what motherboard to pair with my 6900XT and a 5950X, been "out of the loop" for a while

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Went for the Dark Hero after further considerations

So I recently got around to go for upgrading again after a "longer hiatus" from having gotten X99 when it was brand spanking new and also again getting the 5th gen CPU's when they came, mostly because I was using it for both gaming and a lot of rendering (3D modelling, CAD, rendering music, etc), so I needed some form of workstation-grade capable hardware.

 

Now I find myself once again getting around to upgrading, so I managed to snag myself a nice 6900XT and I'm wondering what motherboard to pair with the Ryzen 5950X. But I'm "so out of the loop" that I'm not entirely sure where to start looking anymore, and seeing mixed info on what motherboards and chipsets support ECC and which ones that don't. I would probably prefer having ECC due to rendering etc, as I'm sure many of you can understand, so the whole confusion when getting back into tech stuff again is maybe slightly obvious, but I am going AMD this time around. I tried searching and looking for answers but it honestly didn't make me any less confused.

Was taking a gander at the ASUS ROG Crosshair motherboards, but they almost seemed over the top, but the WIFI I/O ports at the back were a nice one (though I am not averse to a WIFI PCI-card if it is included). Though slightly pricy for what they seemed to offer.

 

So tl;dr:

  • Which chipset should I be focusing on?
    • B550 or X570?
  • Which MOBO?
  • Support for ECC or not?
    • Fitting MHz for it?
    • Most likely getting 64GB of RAM, may or may not also be used for Star Citizen as well (but ignore that part😉), but rendering has a tendency to be more efficient with 32 and up.
    • Focus on ECC or just go for non-ECC ram?
  • Preferably one that fits a Noctua NH-D15

Any and all help making up my mind is greatly appreciated 🙇

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if you are getting a 5950x, get x570. I dont see a point in getting a 700$+ CPU and losing out on certain features.

 

id say get a 3200 mhz kit, getting 64 gb of 3600 mhz and getting it to work first try without a ton of tinkering is unlikely.

 

 

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37 minutes ago, Shimejii said:

if you are getting a 5950x, get x570. I dont see a point in getting a 700$+ CPU and losing out on certain features.

 

id say get a 3200 mhz kit, getting 64 gb of 3600 mhz and getting it to work first try without a ton of tinkering is unlikely.

 

 

 

I was sort of favoring a 3200 kit of 64, as it's usually a "safe bet" frequency to be at, but I'm unsure if I should go for ECC or just take the hit of faults as the net sum after all the parts are in, is something more efficient to begin with and the faults/sec not mattering so much anymore (also harder to find wider selections of ECC RAM to start with)

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45 minutes ago, Shimejii said:

get x570. I dont see a point in getting a 700$+ CPU and losing out on certain features

On the other hand if tweaking and overclocking matter to you x570 can't do bclk overclocking while b550 can

Basically x570 is pcie gen4 compatible, support sli/crossfire, and more usb3.2 2x1 ports.

b550, aside from OC stuff, is pcie gen 3 and has a mix of usb 3.2 1x1 and 2x1 ports.
You can get really good boards on either chipset. Would recommend actually hardcore overclocking on youtube for mobo analysis

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2 minutes ago, Cyracus said:

On the other hand if tweaking and overclocking matter to you x570 can't do bclk overclocking while b550 can

Basically x570 is pcie gen4 compatible, support sli/crossfire, and more usb3.2 2x1 ports.

b550, aside from OC stuff, is pcie gen 3 and has a mix of usb 3.2 1x1 and 2x1 ports.
You can get really good boards on either chipset. Would recommend actually hardcore overclocking on youtube for mobo analysis

Hmm interesting, I did bclk overclock the current setup as well as tuning the ratio until I got it to the point I was seeking, but I'm not entirely sure I would bother with the new setup, quite frankly because I'm not sure if I would or wouldn't do it. With the previous setup I could do "safe parameter" clocking and know what was a good zone to be in, because of familiarity with Intel and how it responded to clocking etc, with AMD I'm sort of fresh to it, so not sure what to expect and what it favors etc.

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1 minute ago, Mainfold said:

with AMD I'm sort of fresh to it, so not sure what to expect and what it favors etc.

Tomshardware says it's rather similar to intel https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/overclocking-amd-ryzen,5011-3.html

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2 minutes ago, Cyracus said:

Tomshardware says it's rather similar to intel https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/overclocking-amd-ryzen,5011-3.html

Won't a 6% increase from ratio-clocking it be sufficient then for safe clocks without cranking up thermal output when using an NH-D15 without BCLK-tuning access?

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x570 dark hero is hands down the mobo of choice

 

4x16 is quite cheap atm

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=cl14+3200+2x16

 

wouldn't touch bclk on x570, but that board does have per core tuning, also gonna be on a d15.

5950x 1.33v 5.05 4.5 88C 195w ll R20 12k ll drp4 ll x570 dark hero ll gskill 4x8gb 3666 14-14-14-32-320-24-2T (zen trfc)  1.45v 45C 1.15v soc ll 6950xt gaming x trio 325w 60C ll samsung 970 500gb nvme os ll sandisk 4tb ssd ll 6x nf12/14 ippc fans ll tt gt10 case ll evga g2 1300w ll w10 pro ll 34GN850B ll AW3423DW

 

9900k 1.36v 5.1avx 4.9ring 85C 195w (daily) 1.02v 4.3ghz 80w 50C R20 temps score=5500 ll D15 ll Z390 taichi ult 1.60 bios ll gskill 4x8gb 14-14-14-30-280-20 ddr3666bdie 1.45v 45C 1.22sa/1.18 io  ll EVGA 30 non90 tie ftw3 1920//10000 0.85v 300w 71C ll  6x nf14 ippc 2000rpm ll 500gb nvme 970 evo ll l sandisk 4tb sata ssd +4tb exssd backup ll 2x 500gb samsung 970 evo raid 0 llCorsair graphite 780T ll EVGA P2 1200w ll w10p ll NEC PA241w ll pa32ucg-k

 

prebuilt 5800 stock ll 2x8gb ddr4 cl17 3466 ll oem 3080 0.85v 1890//10000 290w 74C ll 27gl850b ll pa272w ll w11

 

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2 minutes ago, xg32 said:

x570 dark hero is hands down the mobo of choice

 

4x16 is quite cheap atm

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=cl14+3200+2x16

 

wouldn't touch bclk on x570, but that board does have per core tuning, also gonna be on a d15.

Dark hero sure has a juicy price-tag, just about one of the most pricy ones. But I have been looking at it and almost thinking "well if I'm gonna get one, maybe the price will be worth it". Just so uncertain if it might be a tad "over the top" and not sure if it's a necessary one or not. So does it respond better to per core voltage tuning or just ratio?

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7 minutes ago, Mainfold said:

Dark hero sure has a juicy price-tag, just about one of the most pricy ones. But I have been looking at it and almost thinking "well if I'm gonna get one, maybe the price will be worth it". Just so uncertain if it might be a tad "over the top" and not sure if it's a necessary one or not. So does it respond better to per core voltage tuning or just ratio?

tbh i don't think it matters THAT much, like at max 100mhz, i've seen ocs on youtube that's like 5.0 2 core, 4.9 4 core, 4.8 8 core and 4.6 16-core, though i'm aiming for 4.7/4.5 to keep things cool, pbo with curve optimizer on the other boards really does a good job on ocs already, just not as fun.

 

it has better ram oc per buildzoid, no fan (x570S uses less power), the VRM is completely overkill (even compared to the taichi and master, i'm not even buying for the VRM), afaik the taichi had a couple of minor downgrades since launch, and that's a 300dollar board already, master has issues, the old hero really isn't an option just 50dollars less than the dark hero. It just checks all the boxes for me

5950x 1.33v 5.05 4.5 88C 195w ll R20 12k ll drp4 ll x570 dark hero ll gskill 4x8gb 3666 14-14-14-32-320-24-2T (zen trfc)  1.45v 45C 1.15v soc ll 6950xt gaming x trio 325w 60C ll samsung 970 500gb nvme os ll sandisk 4tb ssd ll 6x nf12/14 ippc fans ll tt gt10 case ll evga g2 1300w ll w10 pro ll 34GN850B ll AW3423DW

 

9900k 1.36v 5.1avx 4.9ring 85C 195w (daily) 1.02v 4.3ghz 80w 50C R20 temps score=5500 ll D15 ll Z390 taichi ult 1.60 bios ll gskill 4x8gb 14-14-14-30-280-20 ddr3666bdie 1.45v 45C 1.22sa/1.18 io  ll EVGA 30 non90 tie ftw3 1920//10000 0.85v 300w 71C ll  6x nf14 ippc 2000rpm ll 500gb nvme 970 evo ll l sandisk 4tb sata ssd +4tb exssd backup ll 2x 500gb samsung 970 evo raid 0 llCorsair graphite 780T ll EVGA P2 1200w ll w10p ll NEC PA241w ll pa32ucg-k

 

prebuilt 5800 stock ll 2x8gb ddr4 cl17 3466 ll oem 3080 0.85v 1890//10000 290w 74C ll 27gl850b ll pa272w ll w11

 

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10 minutes ago, xg32 said:

tbh i don't think it matters THAT much, like at max 100mhz, i've seen ocs on youtube that's like 5.0 2 core, 4.9 4 core, 4.8 8 core and 4.6 16-core, though i'm aiming for 4.7/4.5 to keep things cool, pbo with curve optimizer on the other boards really does a good job on ocs already, just not as fun.

 

it has better ram oc per buildzoid, no fan (x570S uses less power), the VRM is completely overkill (even compared to the taichi and master, i'm not even buying for the VRM), afaik the taichi had a couple of minor downgrades since launch, and that's a 300dollar board already, master has issues, the old hero really isn't an option just 50dollars less than the dark hero. It just checks all the boxes for me

If auto-tuning can pin it close & good, that always allows for using it first then fine-tuning after I suppose, which is always nice. The "no chipset fan" thing is a nice touch, unlike most X570's, so that was immediate intriguing thing when looking at it. Love the blue-purple hue lighting too... not that I will see it inside a "murdered-out" out silence case though haha

 

So, thus far I am leaning towards it + double DC 32GB 3200MHZ kits (was looking for the kingston fury ones but they seem to be sold out everywhere), from what I'm finding so far, anything less than CL 16-20-20 seems sold out or way too expensive for what they offer

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