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Hi so I was just wondering which is better value. I'm also sort of confused with how to increase the 11400f's base frequency as it appears very low. Do you constantly have to overclock it or does it just do it on its own. And if it does do it on its own, do you need a certain motherboard to enable that? (If so could you recommend one around $150 AUD?)

 

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14 minutes ago, Josh -_- said:

Hi so I was just wondering which is better value. I'm also sort of confused with how to increase the 11400f's base frequency as it appears very low. Do you constantly have to overclock it or does it just do it on its own. And if it does do it on its own, do you need a certain motherboard to enable that? (If so could you recommend one around $150 AUD?)

 

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To make the 11400f boost without being limited by intels bullshit 65w tdp

 

Download throttlestop, go into tpl menu, set turbo long, short, and pp0 current to 99999 and push all sliders to the right, clamp lock, apply, power limits yeeted, also make sure you press the turn on button to actually make the changes

 

It will still be abit slower than the 5600x but you are prob not gonna notice it

 

Just make sure you have a decent 4 heatpipe tower cooler like the se 224 xt or freezer 34 to keep the cpu adequately cool

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1 hour ago, Josh -_- said:

Hi so I was just wondering which is better value.

Which ones are cheaper for both the board and the CPU. 5600x will be the better performing but their higher MSRP pretty much kneecaps it in price to performance. 11400F lower MSRP overall helps in price to performance, but theyre more like an inbetween as theyre better than a 3600x but a neck worse than 5600x. 10400F is also pretty much on par with 11400F, due to the lack of generational improvement of Rocket Lake.

 

Both behaves pretty much the same too, with both loving low latency, high speed memory in dual channel mode with 1 quirks of the Zen really getting a particularly massive performance uplift with a dual channel, dual rank setup, legit or "emulated" (4 sticks of RAM, fully populating a 4 RAM slotted board).

 

For base frequency issue on Intel, you pretty much need a way to work around the Intel's turbo boost limit. Throttlestop is the more "lite" method, but Intel XTU would be the proper way to remove boost limits and increasing power limits manually. Multicore Enhancements do exists for almost all boards which will crudely remove all limits but either way that CPU will run hotter than ever, easily snapping to 85-90°C mark without adequate cooling.

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for the 11400, you need a board that will happily run at the higher power limits, which generally means spending more on it. Removing the limits doesnt help you if the boards VRM is incapable of supplying the power. HWUB did a nice roundup of b560 boards to give you an idea of what works and what doesnt.

 

The 5600x will run on pretty much any B450 or B550 board and not lose any performance.

 

Personally, i'd probably buy the 5600x and a dirt cheap b450 mobo, rather than the 11400 and an expensive mobo.

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2 hours ago, Aragorn- said:

for the 11400, you need a board that will happily run at the higher power limits, which generally means spending more on it. Removing the limits doesnt help you if the boards VRM is incapable of supplying the power. HWUB did a nice roundup of b560 boards to give you an idea of what works and what doesnt.

 

The 5600x will run on pretty much any B450 or B550 board and not lose any performance.

 

Personally, i'd probably buy the 5600x and a dirt cheap b450 mobo, rather than the 11400 and an expensive mobo.

I'd skip the B450 and go with a cheap B550. There's plenty out there that are very inexpensive that will work just fine, and gets you PCIE4.

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