A question about games and performance.

[Diggdugg]

Not sure if this should be here or in hardware but I put it here for now. Now, for games like Civ, Stellaris, Oxygen not included, Humankind, Minecraft, and Rimworld (base building, strategy, crafting survival) what matter most when selecting hardware? I normal see games that are more FPS or graphic intensive used as bench marks but not games like oxygen not included or rimworld, both games that I love, and would like to know what specs on ram, gpu and cpu can effect games like this when they start to suffer late game chug. I imagine that cpu is the heavy hitting for games like this but wanting to understand more I though I would make this post here. Thank you all for taking the time to read this, and thank you again if you reply.

[tikker]

5 minutes ago, Diggdugg said:

I normal see games that are more FPS or graphic intensive used as bench marks but not games like oxygen not included or rimworld

Those aren't particularly demanding titles to run, so you won't really find them in benchmarks.

 

Simulation games like those are typically CPU bound, moreso the more entities and stuff you have, because of all the logic like entity movement and statuses that needs to constantly updated.

[Diggdugg]

24 minutes ago, tikker said:

Those aren't particularly demanding titles to run, so you won't really find them in benchmarks.

I agree, atless at the start of any of games listed. But as anyone who has played them into the late game, they suffer some major performance hits. And I would like to know hardware handles that the best and why. I for one could not find any testing on any of these game when in there "late game" but I thought maybe someone has or done so themself. And if I was shopping for hardware with said games in mind I would like to know, what matter most, frequency, cores, memory? What should I be looking for. Again thank you.

[tikker]

1 hour ago, Diggdugg said:

I agree, atless at the start of any of games listed. But as anyone who has played them into the late game, they suffer some major performance hits. And I would like to know hardware handles that the best and why. I for one could not find any testing on any of these game when in there "late game" but I thought maybe someone has or done so themself. And if I was shopping for hardware with said games in mind I would like to know, what matter most, frequency, cores, memory? What should I be looking for. Again thank you.

The problem is, in my opinion, that "late game" is a poor defined state at best. The graphically intense games, linear games and/or built-in benchmark give you something to compare. For example, everyone playing Doom Eternal will get the same experience. Your late game Oxygen not Included, however, is probably very different from mine. It's not impossible to get some sort of likely outcome, but it's harder and more subjective.

 

Unless you are currently running out of RAM at that point, memory isn't an issue I think. It's mostly down to CPU performance. Even then it heavily depends on the game. If it can leverage multiple cores well and efficiently, it makes sense to go for more cores. If it can't, it makes sense to go for faster cores, but that'll vary per game.

[jones177]

For building games it is IPC so my 5800x is used. On GPU games like SOTTR it does the same frames as my i9 9900k.

 

My old Space Engineers saves are a good example. This scene is not smooth on my stock i9 9900k or i7 8086k but it is totally smooth on the 5800x.

 

 

Modded games are the same. My heavily modded Fallout 4 runs perfectly on a 5800x or a i9 10900k but it is a stuttering mess on my i9 9900k. 

 

This is what my 5800x is for. In vanilla games at 1440p and 4k it is not an upgrade to my i9 9900k or i7 8086k.