Can i write a linex mini kernel using python or at least rewrite one ???

[ken00H]

Hello guys i am an IT student and i was wondering if i can use python to write a Linux mini kernel or at least rewrite one

 

 

 

and sorry for any mistakes in my writing English isn't my main language

[pythonmegapixel]

No. Python is too high-level to write a kernel in (apart from perhaps some extremely specialised hardware).

There has to be some form of operating system there already for the Python interpereter to run on top of.

[ken00H]

Can you tell what kind of hardware???

1 minute ago, pythonmegapixel said:

No. Python is too high-level to write a kernel in (apart from perhaps some extremely specialised hardware).

There has to be some form of operating system there already for the Python interpereter to run on top of.

 

[trag1c]

If you want to build your own kernel from scratch you would need a language that compiles directly to machine code like C or C++. Python to my knowledge doesn't have any options for compiling straight into machine code. Python can be compiled to byte code but that doesn't help since that byte code still has to be interpreted. 

[pythonmegapixel]

3 minutes ago, ken00H said:

Can you tell what kind of hardware???

I don't know specifically. The reason I made that comment is that when Java was the trendy language, it needed a specific runtime environment (the Java Virtual Machine) which was most often implemented in software - however, I believe there were a few chips that implemented a JVM in hardware instead, allowing you to run Java on the bare metal.

 

Theoretically, it might be possible to have a chip which can interpret Python bytecode in hardware in a similar way. I doubt any such thing actually exists, as it's not clear what the use for it would be, but even if you did, the end result would probably be a very long way from Linux.

 

As @trag1csays, you really need a language that compiles/assembles to machine code.

[ken00H]

Just now, trag1c said:

If you want to build your own kernel from scratch you would need a language that compiles directly to machine code like C or C++. Python to my knowledge doesn't have any options for compiling straight into machine code. Python can be compiled to byte code but that doesn't help since that byte code still has to be interpreted. 

it isn't about making my own kernel

i thought if i can do it i will do it for my graduation project

[ken00H]

Just now, pythonmegapixel said:

I don't know specifically. The reason I made that comment is that when Java was the trendy language, it needed a specific runtime environment (the Java Virtual Machine) which was most often implemented in software - however, I believe there were a few chips that implemented a JVM in hardware instead, allowing you to run Java on the bare metal.

 

Theoretically, it might be possible to have a chip which can interpret Python bytecode in hardware in a similar way. I doubt any such thing actually exists, as it's not clear what the use for it would be, but even if you did, the end result would probably be a very long way from Linux.

 

As @trag1csays, you really need a language that compiles/assembles to machine code.

Ok i understand it now

do you have any ideas for me to code as a graduation project  instead???

[trag1c]

24 minutes ago, ken00H said:

Ok i understand it now

do you have any ideas for me to code as a graduation project  instead???

My best advice would be to find a problem to solve that can make your life easier or find a friend with a business or something and then see how you can help them.

[Sauron]

14 hours ago, ken00H said:

Ok i understand it now

do you have any ideas for me to code as a graduation project  instead???

No offense but if you're this close to graduation in IT and you don't realize why writing a kernel in python is not feasible you might have a problem. Maybe expand on something you did study in a course for your graduation project...?

[Guest willies leg]

You can write your own kernel in anything you want. And it can run on anything you want, even in a "virtual machine" you code in whatever you want, too.

Just have to implement the basics of what you want your kernel to handle.

Not talking running Firefox or even a network stack, just "booting" to something and handling some basics like semaphores, memory allocation/deallocation  and stuff like that.

Check out Minix

https://www.amazon.com/Operating-Systems-Design-Implementation-3rd/dp/0131429388