Need help on important decision

[Mando772004]

I have a r7 5800x with 32gb of memory running at 3200mhz cl16 and i have a msi gaming x trio 3080 now i noticed im getting stutters in many games so i decided to borrow my friends 1080 Ti and voila no stutters so my 3080 is the problem for some reason so should i RMA it or is it fine? i mean im playing on 1080p ultra im getting good frames but the stutters are very obvious while on the 1080 ti there are no stutters. even many people benchmarking the same build dont get stutters using the 3080 but i do so should i rma it or maybe its just a game issue. it stutters in days gone watch dogs legion horizon zero dawn fortnite hitman and apparently all those games for other people with my build never stutter.

[Doctor_Durf]

Is it your power supply?

[Mark Kaine]

well, technically you only figured out there is something wrong with your system "related" to gpu.

 

you could only be certain its the gpu by testing another 3080 (with at least similar power draw)

 

Just saying id try to be certain before rma, you never know what u get back (literally might just be the purchasing price in money)

 

 

Btw since im noticing u make a lot of topics about this without giving too much helpful information, is everything at stock settings, no overclocks, xmp etc?

 

Also can u list *full* specs, please?

[Montana One-Six]

First of could you list all your components and settings?

 

Have you looked at your frames because stuttering is pretty vague. Can you provide some actual FPS numbers?

 

[Mando772004]

13 minutes ago, Doctor_Durf said:

Is it your power supply?

no i think its fine

[Mando772004]

14 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

well, technically you only figured out there is something wrong with your system "related" to gpu.

 

you could only be certain its the gpu by testing another 3080 (with at least similar power draw)

 

Just saying id try to be certain before rma, you never know what u get back (literally might just be the purchasing price in money)

 

 

Btw since im noticing u make a lot of topics about this without giving too much helpful information, is everything at stock settings, no overclocks, xmp etc?

 

Also can u list *full* specs, please?

 

Its impossible for me to get my hands on a gpu similar to a 3080 at this time none of my friends own a similar one

SPECS:

B550 tomahawk

GX850 seasonic 80+ gold

Days gone and Control are on 2tb seagate hdd 700+ gb left

Fortnite and windows are on m.2 sata drive with 100+gb left

32gb 4x8 corsair rgb vengeance pro memory at 3200 mhz cl16 and xmp is on

MSI GAMING X TRIO RTX 3080 latest drivers on stock settings

Ryzen 7 5800x stock settings cooled by mag core liquid 360r

i pretty much am running a new copy of windows and its the latest version 21H1

[Mando772004]

11 minutes ago, Montana16 said:

First of could you list all your components and settings?

 

Have you looked at your frames because stuttering is pretty vague. Can you provide some actual FPS numbers?

 

B550 tomahawk

GX850 seasonic 80+ gold

Days gone and Control are on 2tb seagate hdd 700+ gb left

Fortnite and windows are on m.2 sata drive with 100+gb left

32gb 4x8 corsair rgb vengeance pro memory at 3200 mhz cl16 and xmp is on

MSI GAMING X TRIO RTX 3080 latest drivers on stock settings

Ryzen 7 5800x stock settings cooled by mag core liquid 360r

i pretty much am running a new copy of windows and its the latest version 21H1

 

well for example without ray tracing on watch dogs my frames on ultra 1080p are around maybe 115 it drops from 115 to 100 for example in a second and my gpu usage and power drops then comes back.

[Mark Kaine]

ok, so u need to do classic troubleshooting…

strip down system as much u can.

1 or 2 sticks of ram , no xmp

remove harddrives  except OS drive

then check for a day or 2 if issues persist.

if they do its more than likely psu.

u can try testing this by setting a power limit (70-80%) or so *and* downclocking the "core clock" - 20 or so…

 

then check again if issues  persist

 

 

if they do, you'll probably need another psu.

 

 

or u just rma, which may or may not fix your problems (as said personally id want to make sure before doing that, and a psu is very cheap in comparison)

[Montana One-Six]

12 minutes ago, InfernalClaw said:

well for example without ray tracing on watch dogs my frames on ultra 1080p are around maybe 115 it drops from 115 to 100 for example in a second and my gpu usage and power drops then comes back.

115 to 100 FPS seems fine to me.

What do you mean usage and power drops?  how much?

 

[Mando772004]

21 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

ok, so u need to do classic troubleshooting…

strip down system as much u can.

1 or 2 sticks of ram , no xmp

remove harddrives  except OS drive

then check for a day or 2 if issues persist.

if they do its more than likely psu.

u can try testing this by setting a power limit (70-80%) or so *and* downclocking the "core clock" - 20 or so…

 

then check again if issues  persist

 

 

if they do, you'll probably need another psu.

 

 

or u just rma, which may or may not fix your problems (as said personally id want to make sure before doing that, and a psu is very cheap in comparison)

pretty much tried all that except removing drives and still stutters

[Mando772004]

15 minutes ago, Montana16 said:

115 to 100 FPS seems fine to me.

What do you mean usage and power drops?  how much?

 

well for example im at 97% usage and the game stutters and suddenly usage goes to 30% then comes back to 97%

 

[Montana One-Six]

21 minutes ago, InfernalClaw said:

well for example im at 97% usage and the game stutters and suddenly usage goes to 30% then comes back to 97%

 

Bios up to date ?

Gpu drivers up to date?

[Mando772004]

Just now, Montana16 said:

Bios up to date ?

Gpu drivers up to date?

Yes.

[Montana One-Six]

Since you already tried what Mark Kaine suggested it probably is power delivery then.

 

Which means PSU but it could also be inconsistent power delivery to the PSU.

 

[Mando772004]

7 hours ago, Montana16 said:

Since you already tried what Mark Kaine suggested it probably is power delivery then.

 

Which means PSU but it could also be inconsistent power delivery to the PSU.

 

I hate to say this but, are you sure? I mean the 1080 ti worked fine doesnt it mean the 3080 itself is the problem?

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

4 minutes ago, InfernalClaw said:

I hate to say this but, are you sure? I mean the 1080 ti worked fine doesnt it mean the 3080 itself is the problem?

It would seem to suggest it but it could also be something like the power adapter

[Mando772004]

Just now, orbitalbuzzsaw said:

It would seem to suggest it but it could also be something like the power adapter

you mean the cable? if its that then 1080 ti worked with it fine so why would it cause problems on a 3080?

[Mando772004]

3 minutes ago, orbitalbuzzsaw said:

It would seem to suggest it but it could also be something like the power adapter

could it be that the power supply itself is not i guess connected properly? or anything in my pc not connected properly?

[Mando772004]

14 hours ago, Montana16 said:

Since you already tried what Mark Kaine suggested it probably is power delivery then.

 

Which means PSU but it could also be inconsistent power delivery to the PSU.

 

@Mark Kaine @Doctor_Durf sometimes when the stutters happen, only the usage drops while the power remains constant

[Montana One-Six]

9 hours ago, InfernalClaw said:

you mean the cable? if its that then 1080 ti worked with it fine so why would it cause problems on a 3080?

1080ti is a 250 watt card the 3080 a 320 watt card.

 

2 hours ago, InfernalClaw said:

@Mark Kaine @Doctor_Durf sometimes when the stutters happen, only the usage drops while the power remains constant

Is your windows set to max performance?

 

Do you have access to another system where you could try the 3080 to see if the issues are exclusive to your system or if it also happens on other systems?

[Mando772004]

9 hours ago, Montana16 said:

1080ti is a 250 watt card the 3080 a 320 watt card.

 

Is your windows set to max performance?

 

Do you have access to another system where you could try the 3080 to see if the issues are exclusive to your system or if it also happens on other systems?

no i dont but update, i re tried the 1080 ti and it stuttered very badly actually on the same game the 3080 stutters on. i also tried newer memory still didnt fix it so i think its a software/game issue

[RTX 3071]

Try to monitor power draw with MSI Afterburner and see if power draw drops with usage.

Confirm that if you have a modular PSU, you aren't using split cables like what I use:

 

 

[Montana One-Six]

6 minutes ago, RTX 3071 said:

Try to monitor power draw with MSI Afterburner and see if power draw drops with usage.

Confirm that if you have a modular PSU, you aren't using split cables like what I use:

 

 

Good Point.

Make sure you use 3 separate 8pin cables for your 3080.

[Mando772004]

9 hours ago, Montana16 said:

Good Point.

Make sure you use 3 separate 8pin cables for your 3080.

 

i think you may have found out what's causing me the problem. the one in the middle is coming out of the one on the right do you see that?

 

@RTX 3071

[RTX 3071]

3 minutes ago, InfernalClaw said:

 

i think you may have found out what's causing me the problem. the one in the middle is coming out of the one on the right do you see that?

 

@RTX 3071

Was hard to recognize when I first saw this image but now it's really visible. Try 3 separate cables.