Newbie's New Build Help

[David Navratil]

Budget (including currency): No more then $1,000.00 US Dollars

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: No gaming, Watch movies, Libra Office, Etc

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

I have monitor, Wireless KB/Mouse, Speakers, 120GB SSD drive with Windows 10 on it.  I'm upgrading from a 2015 AMD build (I did myself). System still works perfectly, but want a little hobby and upgrade!

 

Newbie David here.  I'm a retired senior, built a system in 2015 but forgot everything I learned then.  I want to build a new system and keep my old (Working) system as backup!

I don't play video games and don't want a video card (Just need CPU with Graphics for movies)!  I don't want to use hard drives just SSD or M-2 SSDs.  Need lots of USB ports (As many 3.0 as possible) on motherboard.

 

Since today is the last day of Amazon's Prime Sell, I've come up with a few items and want advice as to if they will together.

1 - GIGABYTE B550M DS3H (AM4 AMD/B550/Micro ATX/Dual M.2/SATA 6Gb/s/USB 3.2 Gen 1/PCIe 4.0/HMDI/DVI/DDR4/Motherboard) = $88.00 (Lots of USB ports & PCI4

2 - Thermaltake S100 Tempered Glass Snow Edition Micro-ATX mini-Tower Computer Case with 120mm Rear Fan Pre-Installed CA-1Q9-00S6WN-00, White  =$49.00 (Small & White, looks great)

3 - AMD Ryzen 3 3200G 4-Core Unlocked Desktop Processor with Radeon Graphics = $220.00  (Lowest priced cpu with graphics I could find)  If you know of any other let me know!

 

This is the main items, I will be needing some ram and Windows 10 but that can wait for a few days!!

Any help would greatly be appreciated, Remember I'm not a gamer!!  David N.

 

 

[Herman Mcpootis]

$220 for a 3200G is a pretty terrible deal, you could get a 10400 or 11400 instead.

[David Navratil]

1 minute ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

$220 for a 3200G is a pretty terrible deal, you could get a 10400 or 11400 instead.

What does a 10400 or 11400 mean, Tks DN

 

[Omar.B]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hynbPV 

[Omar.B]

4 minutes ago, David Navratil said:

What does a 10400 or 11400 mean, Tks DN

 

I5 10th gen and 11th gen processor (CPU) 

[Herman Mcpootis]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-10600K 4.1 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($178.99 @ Amazon) cheapest half-decent cpu with an iGPU.
CPU Cooler: Logisys MC4001IM 66.3 CFM CPU Cooler  ($19.11 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B460M-A Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  ($89.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 CL15 Memory  ($69.98 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital SN750 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($62.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox NR400 (w/ODD) MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($42.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($34.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $499.03
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-06-22 08:41 EDT-0400

[Tan3l6]

2 minutes ago, Omar.B said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hynbPV 

Otherwise good but cooling is overpriced (Hyper 212 EVO) 

I'd go with ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO but it's not miles ahead by cooling performance.

[Downkey]

5 minutes ago, Omar.B said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hynbPV 

I’m pretty sure you can get the same performance for $250 less.

[David Navratil]

thank you, everyone, I forgot about pcpartpicker site and sorry if I've wasted some of your time!!  Let me do a bit more research David N.

[Forleb]

16 minutes ago, David Navratil said:

Budget (including currency): No more then $1,000.00 US Dollars

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: No gaming, Watch movies, Libra Office, Etc

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

I have monitor, Wireless KB/Mouse, Speakers, 120GB SSD drive with Windows 10 on it.  I'm upgrading from a 2015 AMD build (I did myself). System still works perfectly, but want a little hobby and upgrade!

 

Newbie David here.  I'm a retired senior, built a system in 2015 but forgot everything I learned then.  I want to build a new system and keep my old (Working) system as backup!

I don't play video games and don't want a video card (Just need CPU with Graphics for movies)!  I don't want to use hard drives just SSD or M-2 SSDs.  Need lots of USB ports (As many 3.0 as possible) on motherboard.

 

Since today is the last day of Amazon's Prime Sell, I've come up with a few items and want advice as to if they will together.

1 - GIGABYTE B550M DS3H (AM4 AMD/B550/Micro ATX/Dual M.2/SATA 6Gb/s/USB 3.2 Gen 1/PCIe 4.0/HMDI/DVI/DDR4/Motherboard) = $88.00 (Lots of USB ports & PCI4

2 - Thermaltake S100 Tempered Glass Snow Edition Micro-ATX mini-Tower Computer Case with 120mm Rear Fan Pre-Installed CA-1Q9-00S6WN-00, White  =$49.00 (Small & White, looks great)

3 - AMD Ryzen 3 3200G 4-Core Unlocked Desktop Processor with Radeon Graphics = $220.00  (Lowest priced cpu with graphics I could find)  If you know of any other let me know!

 

This is the main items, I will be needing some ram and Windows 10 but that can wait for a few days!!

Any help would greatly be appreciated, Remember I'm not a gamer!!  David N.

 

 

I own a B550M DS3H myself currently, and it is very subpar aside from connectivity; All other connectors are limited either by quantity or by the cheap VRMs, but mostly both. I'd suggest the MSI MPG B550 Gaming Plus instead, which is superior in pretty much every way you can think of. The 3200G is a bit too far into the bare-bones zone; Consider the 3400G, which has multithreading unlike the former, and should cost $149 at MSRP. As for your RAM, G.Skill kits are currently discounted on Newegg, meaning you can pick up a solid 16GB kit for around $80. Finally, try out Prime Tech Mart for your Windows 10 key; I used them for the license I'm using currently, so I can attest that they're legit.

[Omar.B]

1 minute ago, Downkey said:

I’m pretty sure you can get the same performance for $250 less.

True

[Reaper_3955]

you wanted a cpu with graphics to play movies. AMD doesn't have integrated graphics so you would want to go with intel.

[Omar.B]

3 minutes ago, Tan3l6 said:

Otherwise good but cooling overpriced (Hyper 212 EVO) 

I'd go with ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO but it's not miles ahead by cooling performance.

I went with the evo because it have lower sound than the arctic according to gamers nexus

 

[David Navratil]

I can't believe how much help you guys provide!!  Tks, DN

[Tan3l6]

2 minutes ago, Omar.B said:

I went with the evo because it have lower sound than the arctic according to gamers nexus

 

Yeah, I guess it depends on review, like:

https://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/arctic_freezer_34_esports_duo_review,8.html

[David Navratil]

I've done more research at pickapart and how does this look!

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/davidnavratil/saved/#view=YFRXkL

 

Hope link works!  Got a red warning that cpu will need a stock cooler, no problem!

I never thought of looking at Intel products and tks for the heads up!

[Herman Mcpootis]

4 minutes ago, David Navratil said:

I've done more research at pickapart and how does this look!

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/davidnavratil/saved/#view=YFRXkL

 

Hope link works!  Got a red warning that cpu will need a stock cooler, no problem!

I never thought of looking at Intel products and tks for the heads up!

Permission denied when we click on the link.

[David Navratil]

Try the link again, I had my parts list set to "Private" and have now set it to public!!

[OfficialTechSpace]

1 hour ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

Motherboard: Asus PRIME B460M-A Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  ($89.99 @ Newegg) 

I'm not sure why so many people wholeheartedly recommend boards with overheating VRMs, it's almost like there's no research being done.

Even the full-size ATX B560 version of this board thermal throttles and has shitty power delivery, the MicroATX B460 version I could only assume is far worse.

 

Anything less than a B560M Bazooka from MSI is worthless, regardless of budget. Typically MSI and Gigabyte compete for the best VRM/Memory overlocking on a budget, ASUS rarely (if ever) appears on that list.

 

 

[OfficialTechSpace]

@Downkey @Herman Mcpootis

I'm not sure about you guys, but every part that goes into a build should make sense and have a purpose. If your list fails to meet those basic requirements and/or does so at a shitty value, that's an instant fail in my book. 

 

That's why I'm here at this point, I've seen too many bad recommendations to knowingly let them continue without my input. Stop making poor suggestions and then agreeing with eachother as though it's a good list.

 

Here's what I'd recommend:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DFF7NP

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-11400  ($244.49 @ Amazon) 

CPU Cooler: Scythe FUMA 2  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 

Motherboard: MSI MAG B560M BAZOOKA  ($139.99 @ Amazon) 

Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) 3600Mhz CL16  ($93.99 @ B&H) 

Storage: Crucial P2 1 TB  ($79.99 @ B&H) 

Case: Phanteks Eclipse P360A  ($79.98 @ Amazon) 

Power Supply: MSI A650GF 650W 80+ Gold  ($84.99 @ Amazon) 

Case Fans: 2x Phanteks PH-F120SK  ($9.99 each @ Newegg) 

 

Total: $803.40

 

It's a good starter, and if you'd like to turn it into more than just an HTPC in the future, the upgradeability is there to do so.

[Downkey]

9 minutes ago, OfficialTechSpace said:

@Downkey @Herman Mcpootis

I'm not sure about you guys, but every part that goes into a build should make sense and have a purpose. If your list fails to meet those basic requirements and/or does so at a shitty value, that's an instant fail in my book. 

 

That's why I'm here at this point, I've seen too many bad recommendations to knowingly let them continue without my input. Stop making poor suggestions and then agreeing with eachother as though it's a good list.

 

Here's what I'd recommend:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DFF7NP

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-11400  ($244.49 @ Amazon) 

CPU Cooler: Scythe FUMA 2  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 

Motherboard: MSI MAG B560M BAZOOKA  ($139.99 @ Amazon) 

Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) 3600Mhz CL16  ($93.99 @ B&H) 

Storage: Crucial P2 1 TB  ($79.99 @ B&H) 

Case: Phanteks Eclipse P360A  ($79.98 @ Amazon) 

Power Supply: MSI A650GF 650W 80+ Gold  ($84.99 @ Amazon) 

Case Fans: 2x Phanteks PH-F120SK  ($9.99 each @ Newegg) 

 

Total: $803.40

why am i being tagged


Also its a fucking office PC, you don't need a 650w Multi rail PSU, a $60 cooler, 3600MHZ RAM, and a $70 case. Is this a good build? Yes. Does this make sense? No.

[OfficialTechSpace]

2 minutes ago, Downkey said:

why am i being tagged

you agreed with Herman's list, which had a MicroATX B460 board with an overheating VRM. Seems rather counterproductive.

[Downkey]

Just now, OfficialTechSpace said:

you agreed with Herman's list, which had a MicroATX B460 board with an overheating VRM. Seems rather counterproductive.

It's fine for a 11400. Especially when all you are doing is basic multi tasking.

[OfficialTechSpace]

8 minutes ago, Downkey said:

Also its a fucking office PC, you don't need a 650w Multi rail PSU, a $60 cooler, 3600MHZ RAM, and a $70 case. Is this a good build? Yes. Does this make sense? No.

Upgradeability. He's got a $1000 budget and that build is $800. It's got the capabilities of moving on from an HTPC in the future, unlike some of the other systems here that would essentially be e-waste after they've served their niche use case.

 

[Downkey]

4 minutes ago, OfficialTechSpace said:

Upgradeability, he's got a $1000 budget and that build is $800. It's got the capabilities of moving on from an HTPC in the future, unlike some of the other systems here.

What future upgradeability is needed?

 

2 hours ago, David Navratil said:

No gaming, Watch movies, Libra Office, Etc

This is what OP is doing. If OP ever needed to upgrade then a CPU upgrade would be necessary. You don't need 650W. You don't need 3600MHZ. You don't need a $60 cooler. If the stock cooler is fine for gaming on the 11400, then why the hell does OP need a Fuma 2 for watching movies?