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X570S - Should I wait ?

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With recent rumors and new regarding a new line of X570S boards coming out which will include a more efficient with lower temps chipset which will not require fans, I am finding my self in a predicament.

I do not really trust and I am trying to stay away from MBs with chipset fans.

While some current X570 board manufacturers offer Mainboards without fans they expensive and really hard to find at MSRP.

I have all of the components and the one and only thing I am Missing is the Motherboard.

Any Suggestions? Should I wait until August / September, Are there any option other I missed?

I appreciate your comments and support.

 

Below the list of components :

  • CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor  
  • CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 CHROMAX.BLACK 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler  
  • Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  
  • Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive 
  • Storage: Samsung 970 EVO Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive 
  • Video Card: Asus GeForce RTX 3070 8 GB TUF GAMING OC Video Card 
  • Case: be quiet! Dark Base Pro 900 Rev. 2 ATX Full Tower Case 
  • Power Supply: be quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 1200 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply *** Planning to upgrade to RTX3090 when I can get one, hence the 1200
  • Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit 
  • Monitor: Samsung Odyssey G7 LC32G75TQSNXZA 31.5" 2560x1440 240 Hz Monitor
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Decent motherboard with a decent case will work fine.  What are you doing with the machine?

 

 

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So much hay was made when X570 was first released over the active chipset cooling, and then it amounted to a whole lot of nothing. Based on the spec, it's possible for the chipset to get hot enough to need cooling, but in practice it virtually never does. There's no need to wait for X570S out of some antagonism against a chipset fan. It's pretty never even going to run anyways.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D · Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S Chromax.black · Motherboard: Gigabyte Auros X670 Elite AX · RAM: G.Skill Flare X5 64GB (2 x 32GB) DDR5 6000MHz CL30 · Graphics Card: Zotac NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Super Twin Edge OC 12GB · Boot Drive: 1TB XPG Gammix S70 Blade NVMe SSD · Game Drive: 2TB WD SN850X NVMe SSD · PSU: Seasonic Focus GX V3 1000W 80+ Gold · Case: Fractal Design North Mesh · Monitor: MSI Optix MAG342CQR 34” UWQHD 3440x1440 144Hz · Keyboard: EPOMAKER x Aula F99 Wireless Mechanical Keyboard · Mouse: Logitech G309 Lightspeed Wireless Gaming Mouse

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X570's selling point is extra chipset PCIe lanes. If you dont need more of those, just get a high end B550.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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1 minute ago, Chris Pratt said:

So much hay was made when X570 was first released over the active chipset cooling, and then it amounted to a whole lot of nothing.

Spoken like someone that's never owned an X570 board...

 

Firstly, the X570 Taichi chipset does get really hot under load. In theory it shouldn't if nothing needs to traverse through it, but it does... Secondly, fan failure rates are pretty high. Even ASRock were (maybe still is) on backorder with replacements. It also doesn't help that it's right behind the primary PCIe x16 slot where heat from the GPU dumps right on it. And if you use the heatsink plate, the chipset dumps heat onto the M.2 SSDs to where they will start flagging warnings of overheating.

So in conclusion, avoid X570 and wait for the X570s.

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29 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

X570's selling point is extra chipset PCIe lanes. If you dont need more of those, just get a high end B550.

With the B550 do I need to go through the BIOS update nightmare since I will be running the 5950x? I was looking at the  ASUS ROG Strix B550-F Gaming, with one PCI 4 for my GPU, 1 NVME gen 4 and 1 NVME gen 3. for $200.

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2 minutes ago, eskpt1 said:

With the B550 do I need to go through the BIOS update nightmare since I will be running the 5950x? I was looking at the  ASUS ROG Strix B550-F Gaming, with one PCI 4 for my GPU, 1 NVME gen 4 and 1 NVME gen 3. for $200.

Most likely not because Zen 3 CPUs came out quite some time now, boards you buy will be new enough to have BIOS that supports them. However I recommend you keep the BIOS and chipset driver (which goes to the OS) up to date because optimizations are being made all the time.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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1 hour ago, StDragon said:

Spoken like someone that's never owned an X570 board...

 

Firstly, the X570 Taichi chipset does get really hot under load. In theory it shouldn't if nothing needs to traverse through it, but it does... Secondly, fan failure rates are pretty high. Even ASRock were (maybe still is) on backorder with replacements. It also doesn't help that it's right behind the primary PCIe x16 slot where heat from the GPU dumps right on it. And if you use the heatsink plate, the chipset dumps heat onto the M.2 SSDs to where they will start flagging warnings of overheating.

So in conclusion, avoid X570 and wait for the X570s.

Spoken like someone that has no idea what they're talking about. I've got an X570 board right now. Chipset fan doesn't run, because it doesn't need to. Never gets over 50C. ASRock is kind of crap, so maybe that's your issue? Try a good board.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D · Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S Chromax.black · Motherboard: Gigabyte Auros X670 Elite AX · RAM: G.Skill Flare X5 64GB (2 x 32GB) DDR5 6000MHz CL30 · Graphics Card: Zotac NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Super Twin Edge OC 12GB · Boot Drive: 1TB XPG Gammix S70 Blade NVMe SSD · Game Drive: 2TB WD SN850X NVMe SSD · PSU: Seasonic Focus GX V3 1000W 80+ Gold · Case: Fractal Design North Mesh · Monitor: MSI Optix MAG342CQR 34” UWQHD 3440x1440 144Hz · Keyboard: EPOMAKER x Aula F99 Wireless Mechanical Keyboard · Mouse: Logitech G309 Lightspeed Wireless Gaming Mouse

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1 hour ago, Chris Pratt said:

Spoken like someone that has no idea what they're talking about. I've got an X570 board right now. Chipset fan doesn't run, because it doesn't need to. Never gets over 50C. ASRock is kind of crap, so maybe that's your issue? Try a good board.

This guy has his chipset rocket to 84c, yet in that same chart, his MB was at 49c with the CPU at 63c. And your response below says inadequate case cooling??!! I guess ASUS makes a crap X570 board too amiright?

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On 5/24/2021 at 3:50 PM, StDragon said:

Spoken like someone that's never owned an X570 board...

 

Firstly, the X570 Taichi chipset does get really hot under load. In theory it shouldn't if nothing needs to traverse through it, but it does... Secondly, fan failure rates are pretty high. Even ASRock were (maybe still is) on backorder with replacements. It also doesn't help that it's right behind the primary PCIe x16 slot where heat from the GPU dumps right on it. And if you use the heatsink plate, the chipset dumps heat onto the M.2 SSDs to where they will start flagging warnings of overheating.

So in conclusion, avoid X570 and wait for the X570s.

I can’t wait.  https://wccftech.com/msi-officially-unveils-mag-x570s-tomahawk-wifi-max-x570s-torpedo-max-motherboards/
 

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