Torn between two monitors

[Smackaroy]

I have been without a decent monitor for ages now currently I'm gaming on a 1080p 60hz which isn't ideal when I have a 3090.

 

The two monitors I'm looking at are the LG 27gp950 and the asus PG32UQ. I like the LG for the very fast pixel response time, and I like the ASUS for the size.

 

I can't decide if I want the extra size or the screen with less ghosting.

 

Edit. I been looking at the PG43UQ aswell because I like the look of the good HDR but it may be a but too big and it uses a VA so lots of smearing potentially. I have also been looking at the PG32UQX but that thing costs 3k and has a annoying fan so the amount of money that thing costs is quite a big turn off.

 

[Bobbysixjp]

Go ultrawide if you can - I went from a 27 inch 1440p to 3440x1440p ultra wide  ( both high refresh) and the difference is night and day. The ultrawide is so much more immersive in games. 

[DSD27]

3 hours ago, Bobbysixjp said:

Go ultrawide if you can - I went from a 27 inch 1440p to 3440x1440p ultra wide  ( both high refresh) and the difference is night and day. The ultrawide is so much more immersive in games. 

But don't you have to turn your head a lot? On multiplayer games it can be frustrating. I dumped my 31.5" monitor and that was one of the reasons.

[Bobbysixjp]

Just now, DSD27 said:

But don't you have to turn your head a lot? On multiplayer games it can be frustrating.

Not really - I sit about 2 feet away from my monitor and don’t have to turn my head.

[DSD27]

2 hours ago, Bobbysixjp said:

Not really - I sit about 2 feet away from my monitor and don’t have to turn my head.

What's the point of having a 34" monitor if you're going to sit 2 feet away? Just buy a 27" monitor and sit at an arm's distance, the immersion will be the same or even more immersive. The 27" fills my field of view.

[e22big]

17 hours ago, Smackaroy said:

I have been without a decent monitor for ages now currently I'm gaming on a 1080p 60hz which isn't ideal when I have a 3090.

 

The two monitors I'm looking at are the LG 27gp950 and the asus PG32UQ. I like the LG for the very fast pixel response time, and I like the ASUS for the size.

 

I can't decide if I want the extra size or the screen with less ghosting.

 

Edit. I been looking at the PG43UQ aswell because I like the look of the good HDR but it may be a but too big and it uses a VA so lots of smearing potentially. I have also been looking at the PG32UQX but that thing costs 3k and has a annoying fan so the amount of money that thing costs is quite a big turn off.

 

was PG32UQ even out yet? If they are anything like their last year 27 inch (XG27UQ) it should be just as fast as their LG equivalent and may be having a better contrast as well, both are IPS and most likely the same panel. The only compromise you have to make is a bit lower refresh rate, and probably price but if you can afford it the PG32UQ should be a no brainer if you can afford it.

[Smackaroy]

2 hours ago, e22big said:

was PG32UQ even out yet? If they are anything like their last year 27 inch (XG27UQ) it should be just as fast as their LG equivalent and may be having a better contrast as well, both are IPS and most likely the same panel. The only compromise you have to make is a bit lower refresh rate, and probably price but if you can afford it the PG32UQ should be a no brainer if you can afford it.

no it's not. the display seems to be 4ms and from looking at the pg32uqx it will have a lot of ghosting. but that's just what i have heard if it does end up having a 1ms response time i will 100% buy it as long as the contrast is not below 1000.

[Smackaroy]

15 minutes ago, Smackaroy said:

no it's not. the display seems to be 4ms and from looking at the pg32uqx it will have a lot of ghosting. but that's just what i have heard if it does end up having a 1ms response time i will 100% buy it as long as the contrast is not below 1000.

just looked at the asus webpage it does have a 1ms g2g. now i just have to wait, hopefully it comes out within the next few months.

[e22big]

8 hours ago, Smackaroy said:

no it's not. the display seems to be 4ms and from looking at the pg32uqx it will have a lot of ghosting. but that's just what i have heard if it does end up having a 1ms response time i will 100% buy it as long as the contrast is not below 1000.

PG32UQX is not the same as PG32UQ - the UQX has micro LED panel which give you OLED-like deep black but also come with other issues, the UQ model use a traditional IPS display and shouldn't be any different from the model last year when it comes to performance (contrast from last year was also quite good for IPS, 1200:1 or something)

 

You should also noted that while this advanced IPS panel may advertised 1ms grey to grey respond time, in reality, they should all be around 4ms as 1ms is only for the higest overdrive mode which will introduce a massive amount of inverse ghosting or overshoot which is much worse than just having a slow display

[Stahlmann]

22 hours ago, Bobbysixjp said:

Go ultrawide if you can - I went from a 27 inch 1440p to 3440x1440p ultra wide  ( both high refresh) and the difference is night and day. The ultrawide is so much more immersive in games. 

I'd stay away from ultrawide myself. Had one for 2 years, went back to 16:9. It's just less hassle.

 

16 hours ago, e22big said:

was PG32UQ even out yet? If they are anything like their last year 27 inch (XG27UQ) it should be just as fast as their LG equivalent and may be having a better contrast as well, both are IPS and most likely the same panel. The only compromise you have to make is a bit lower refresh rate, and probably price but if you can afford it the PG32UQ should be a no brainer if you can afford it.

They will likely deliver about the same picture quality and response time. The low contrast with LG nanoIPS panels is fixed and the 27GN950 that i'm currently using actually has 1000:1 and not the 700:1 that the 27GL850 suffered from. I'll also mention that you have to keep in mind that the difference in contrast from 700:1 to 1000:1 is much higher, than from 1000:1 to 1200:1. So a bit higher contrast won't really give the Asus monitor a noticeable boost in picture quality. (If they manage to get over 1000:1 to begin with)

 

5 hours ago, e22big said:

PG32UQX is not the same as PG32UQ - the UQX has micro LED panel which give you OLED-like deep black but also come with other issues, the UQ model use a traditional IPS display and shouldn't be any different from the model last year when it comes to performance (contrast from last year was also quite good for IPS, 1200:1 or something)

 

You should also noted that while this advanced IPS panel may advertised 1ms grey to grey respond time, in reality, they should all be around 4ms as 1ms is only for the higest overdrive mode which will introduce a massive amount of inverse ghosting or overshoot which is much worse than just having a slow display

It's important to mention that the PG32UQX is very expensive at $3000 and has it's own major issues. For example the response time is more like 5 year old IPS panels and it has a lot more ghosting than other modern IPS panels from LG and AUO. If the PG32UQ uses a similar panel, performance could be noticeably worse than with the LG monitor. It remains to be seen on what Asus has decided.

 

I myself use a LG 27GN950 and i'm extremely happy with it. Also i don't see the 27GP950 being different in any major way other than supporting HDMI 2.1 for consoles. For PC use it's not really needed as DP1.4 with DSC can achieve the same. So you could maybe even save money and go with the 27GN950 when the price drops after the new release.

 

Basically, i'd wati until both are out and thouroughly reviewed. Then you can decide which one is better for you or if the last-gen 27NG950 will do the same for cheaper in your usecase.

 

I for my part would rather take a 1440p 240Hz monitor at 27" than a 4K 144Hz one if i had the choice right now after i have experienced both. The reality is, even with a 3080 you're sitting at around 60 fps more often than at 144 fps. So the high refresh rate will only become noticeable very rarely. If Samsung ever releases a flat G7 and the reviews are good, i'll probably switch away from 4K again.

[e22big]

58 minutes ago, Stahlmann said:

I'd stay away from ultrawide myself. Had one for 2 years, went back to 16:9. It's just less hassle.

 

They will likely deliver about the same picture quality and response time. The low contrast with LG nanoIPS panels is fixed and the 27GN950 that i'm currently using actually has 1000:1 and not the 700:1 that the 27GL850 suffered from. I'll also mention that you have to keep in mind that the difference in contrast from 700:1 to 1000:1 is much higher, than from 1000:1 to 1200:1. So a bit higher contrast won't really give the Asus monitor a noticeable boost in picture quality. (If they manage to get over 1000:1 to begin with)

 

It's important to mention that the PG32UQX is very expensive at $3000 and has it's own major issues. For example the response time is more like 5 year old IPS panels and it has a lot more ghosting than other modern IPS panels from LG and AUO. If the PG32UQ uses a similar panel, performance could be noticeably worse than with the LG monitor. It remains to be seen on what Asus has decided.

 

I myself use a LG 27GN950 and i'm extremely happy with it. Also i don't see the 27GP950 being different in any major way other than supporting HDMI 2.1 for consoles. For PC use it's not really needed as DP1.4 with DSC can achieve the same. So you could maybe even save money and go with the 27GN950 when the price drops after the new release.

 

Basically, i'd wati until both are out and thouroughly reviewed. Then you can decide which one is better for you or if the last-gen 27NG950 will do the same for cheaper in your usecase.

 

I for my part would rather take a 1440p 240Hz monitor at 27" than a 4K 144Hz one if i had the choice right now after i have experienced both. The reality is, even with a 3080 you're sitting at around 60 fps more often than at 144 fps. So the high refresh rate will only become noticeable very rarely. If Samsung ever releases a flat G7 and the reviews are good, i'll probably switch away from 4K again.

I would bet that PG32UQ would probably do even better than the new 27 LG monitor this year. Their XG27UQ from last year already didn't suffer any of the contrast issue that 27GN950 has (their contrast ratio is well over 1200:1) although at the cost of slightly lower brightness in HDR (it's a HDR400 but reality their performance is a lot closer to HDR600 just 50 nit shy of 600 nit required for the certificate)

 

It should be noted that while both are using the same panel, performance may varied according the the manufacturer implementation