Building my first PC

[kotaq_]

Hello, this is my first post here. I want to upgrade from my msi laptop, to something that isn't going to overheat every 5 minutes and will run games at decent framerates. I want to ask for some suggestions and tips. I would like to know id there is something to change about it (for example, am i overpaying, underpaying etc.)

Here is the parts list:

-Case: Corsair iCUE 220T RGB Airflow 

-PSU: Corsair RM750x modular 

-Motherboard: ASUS ROG STRIX B560-G GAMING WIFI

-CPU: Intel Core i5-11600KF

-CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U9S 

-RAM: Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO 16GB DDR4 3200MHz

-GPU: I am planning on getting a rtx3060, but I'll get the 1050Ti for now

-Storage: 1TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 SSD

[OfficialTechSpace]

Budget?

Currency or Country?

Preferences?

[Luigi04]

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel Core i5-11600KF 3.9 GHz 6-Core Processor	$249.99 @ B&H
CPU Cooler	Noctua NH-U9S 46.44 CFM CPU Cooler	$54.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard	Asus ROG STRIX B560-A GAMING WIFI ATX LGA1200 Motherboard	$174.99 @ Newegg
Memory	Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	$112.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive
Storage	Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$55.49 @ Newegg
Case	Corsair iCUE 220T RGB Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case	$114.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply	Corsair RMx (2018) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$121.50 @ Newegg
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$884.94
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-05-02 12:11 EDT-0400

Just added 2TB of hard-disk-storage because 1TB might not be enough.

[OfficialTechSpace]

3 minutes ago, Luigi04 said:

Just added 2TB of hard-disk-storage because 1TB might not be enough.

Why? Why would someone recommend a Hard Drive in 2021? I do not understand...

And why is that the only thing added? There are a few issues with this build.

[Hofas]

• I would suggest a CX750M or a MWE850 Gold for PSU.

• Get a used 1050 ti ~$200? You have search for them they are pretty rare even at that price.

• You could go for AMD counter part CPU, Ryzen 5 3600x with MSI B550M PRO VDH Wifi.

• Try getting 2x 16gb ram sticks or to keep things under budget 8+8 GB ram sticks because dual channel is better than single channel. Of course 3200Mhz each.

Other stuff is your preference but keep the cooler in the list it's good.

[OfficialTechSpace]

Here, I just assumed your budget was around $1,000-$1,100 USD, so here ya go

This list ends up costing roughly ~$100 more than yours listed, but is better in almost every way (only similarity is your choice of CPU)

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel Core i5-11600K 3.9 GHz 6-Core Processor	$254.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler	ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 280 72.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler	$109.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard	MSI MPG Z490 GAMING PLUS ATX LGA1200 Motherboard	$189.99 @ Amazon
Memory	Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory	$93.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Samsung 970 Evo Plus 250 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$59.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Crucial MX500 2 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$184.99 @ Adorama
Case	Phanteks Eclipse P400A Digital ATX Mid Tower Case	$89.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply	Corsair RM (2019) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$114.99 @ Newegg
Case Fan	Phanteks PH-F120SK 50 CFM 120 mm Fan	$10.99 @ Newegg
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1109.91
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-05-02 12:31 EDT-0400

 

[kotaq_]

22 minutes ago, OfficialTechSpace said:

Budget?

Currency or Country?

Preferences?

Sorry, i didn't ad that, My budget is arround 1300$. Location is Germany, I don't want water cooling, I'm just not comfortable with it. I am also going for aesthetics. 

[Wingfan]

10 minutes ago, OfficialTechSpace said:

Here, I just assumed your budget was around $1,000-$1,100 USD, so here ya go

This list ends up costing roughly ~$100 more than yours listed, but is better in almost every way (only similarity is your choice of CPU)

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel Core i5-11600K 3.9 GHz 6-Core Processor	$254.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler	ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 280 72.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler	$109.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard	MSI MPG Z490 GAMING PLUS ATX LGA1200 Motherboard	$189.99 @ Amazon
Memory	Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory	$93.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Samsung 970 Evo Plus 250 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$59.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Crucial MX500 2 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$184.99 @ Adorama
Case	Phanteks Eclipse P400A Digital ATX Mid Tower Case	$89.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply	Corsair RM (2019) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$114.99 @ Newegg
Case Fan	Phanteks PH-F120SK 50 CFM 120 mm Fan	$10.99 @ Newegg
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1109.91
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-05-02 12:31 EDT-0400

 

This is a good selection of parts. To be picky, i would get a 10600K the 1160K is only a small amount better, and im a very cheap person. And a Samsung 970 Evo Plus 250 GB its he is not going to see a difference with a Samsung if primary use is gaming.

[Wingfan]

5 minutes ago, kotaq_ said:

Sorry, i didn't ad that, My budget is arround 1300$. Location is Germany, I don't want water cooling, I'm just not comfortable with it. I am also going for aesthetics. 

Does that include price of GPU?

[kotaq_]

17 minutes ago, Hofas said:

• I would suggest a CX750M or a MWE850 Gold for PSU.

• Get a used 1050 ti ~$200? You have search for them they are pretty rare even at that price.

• You could go for AMD counter part CPU, Ryzen 5 3600x with MSI B550M PRO VDH Wifi.

• Try getting 2x 16gb ram sticks or to keep things under budget 8+8 GB ram sticks because dual channel is better than single channel. Of course 3200Mhz each.

Other stuff is your preference but keep the cooler in the list it's good.

In my area amd cpu's are for some reason quite more expensive. I also forgot to say thet the ram is dual channel.

[OfficialTechSpace]

7 minutes ago, Hofas said:

• CX750M or a MWE850

PSU's this powerful are not necessary for a mid-tier Gaming PC. Plus, the CX750 is only Bronze efficiency rated.

 

11 minutes ago, Hofas said:

• used 1050 ti ~$200? You have search for them they are pretty rare even at that price.

Agreed

 

15 minutes ago, Hofas said:

Ryzen 5 3600x with MSI B550M PRO VDH Wifi.

More expensive, and worse performance

 

15 minutes ago, Hofas said:

• Try getting 2x 16gb ram sticks. Of course 3200Mhz each.

Why would you recommend either of these for a new gaming build? 32GB's of RAM is not necessary, and 3200Mhz is dumb when 3600Mhz is so similarly priced.

 

18 minutes ago, Hofas said:

keep the cooler in the list it's good.

No. That is simply false. Not for a higher-TDP Intel part, no. It has a 90mm fan for christs sake

[kotaq_]

3 minutes ago, Wingfan said:

Does that include price of GPU?

no i got one now

 

[OfficialTechSpace]

8 minutes ago, Wingfan said:

Samsung 970 Evo Plus 250 GB he is not going to see a difference with a Samsung if primary use is gaming.

The NvME I'm recommending as a boot drive/temporary storage rather than straight-up storage for that reason

[Wingfan]

11 minutes ago, OfficialTechSpace said:

The NvME I'm recommending as a boot drive rather than straight-up storage for that reason

For his budget, you can tweak that list a little 

[Herman Mcpootis]

22 minutes ago, OfficialTechSpace said:

Here, I just assumed your budget was around $1,000-$1,100 USD, so here ya go

This list ends up costing roughly ~$100 more than yours listed, but is better in almost every way (only similarity is your choice of CPU)

he's in Germany, an american list is completely useless to him.

[Wingfan]

6 minutes ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

he's in Germany, an american list is completely useless to him.

Well then all these lists are irrelevant, put PartPicker to Germany

[OfficialTechSpace]

 

3 minutes ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

he's in Germany, an american list is completely useless to him.

Yeah I see that now, in case you didn't notice, he hadn't said that until after I made the recommendation

 

[brose]

Case:

The case you chose seems like it should fit everything. Corsair in my opinion makes quality cases. Also, the 220T looks really nice and looks to have great cooling capabilities. 

PSU:

If you are going with a 1050ti or a 3060 with an 11600k cpu, then I would recommend saving some money and going with a 600W or so PSU. 

Motherboard:

I usually find it unnecessary getting a Strix or similar mobo if you aren't getting a z590, but the mobo you found does seem to be at a good price. However, just keep in mind that you won't be able to overclock your CPU unless you get a z590 mobo. Also, if you haven't done so already, go through all the IO and slots on the mobo and make sure that there are all the ports you may need on this mobo. 

CPU:

I'm a big Intel person and I really like the 11600K/KF, which is an impressive core i5 that is meant for gaming. However, at the moment as per PCPartPicker, the best 11600K deal is only $5 more than the best $11600KF and with the UHD 750 iGPU being a great upgrade from the UHD 630 iGPU, I would recommend going with the 11600K and have a more appropriate GPU for internet browsing/ watching videos etc. that uses a lot less power than a 30 series GPU and lets you not torture your GPU by using it all the time. 

CPU Cooler:

The one you chose seems like a formidable cooler for a respectable price and I think its difficult to go wrong with Noctua. 

RAM:

It's always better to get 2 sticks to have dual-channel memory so I would recommend going with the same thing but splitting the 16gb into 2 8gb sticks. Other than that, the RAM you chose should be enough for your gaming, but if you have the budget and find some good deals then it may be worth getting 3600MHZ and if you really have the budget getting 32gb (2*16gb or 4*8gb) of 3200MHZ memory. 

GPU:

Both the 1050ti and especially the 3060 (if you can find one) are good options. Though, if you want superior frames, then it may be worth trying to get your hands on a 3060ti or even a 3070 since both in my opinion are better buys than a 3060 and would pair better with an 11600k cpu. 

Storage:

I would recommend getting a 1TB 970 evo plus as opposed to a 1TB 970 evo since it has better specs and is at the moment on sale for about $10 less than the 970 evo on Newegg. 

[Herman Mcpootis]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-10600KF 4.1 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€185.94 @ Mindfactory) not much worse than the 11600K but you get to save 60-80 euros.
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Le Grand Macho RT 73.6 CFM CPU Cooler  (€76.70 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: MSI MPG Z490 GAMING PLUS ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  (€158.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) only Z-series boards can overclock the CPU.
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 CL15 Memory  (€83.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Western Digital SN750 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (€64.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Toshiba P300 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€53.53 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Case: Corsair SPEC-DELTA RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  (€69.80 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: Fractal Design Ion Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€106.89 @ Alternate) 
Total: €800.65
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-05-02 19:04 CEST+0200

you can try finding a used 290 or something with whatever's left.

[Wingfan]

We should be giving advise on building process, installing Win and drivers, etc

[kotaq_]

Just now, Wingfan said:

We should be giving advise on building process, installing Win and drivers, etc

I don't think i will have problems with that, maybe the drivers, but all that stuff is easy to find on the internet

 

[Wingfan]

6 minutes ago, kotaq_ said:

I don't think i will have problems with that, maybe the drivers, but all that stuff is easy to find on the internet

 

Good, because if you cant you will just have a pile of parts. Its relatively easy. When you say aesthetics, do you mean RGB?

[Kilrah]

Thread cleaned, please keep it to the build discussion. Normal to have multiple people comment with suggestions and OPs can make sense of them just fine, but when the discussion about too many people giving suggestions amounts to more posts than the suggestions themselves you're not exactly achieving much. 

[kotaq_]

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel Core i5-11600K 3.9 GHz 6-Core Processor	€271.71 @ Caseking
CPU Cooler	NZXT Kraken X53 73.11 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler	€119.90 @ Amazon Deutschland
Motherboard	MSI MPG Z490M GAMING EDGE WIFI Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard	€189.00 @ Amazon Deutschland
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory	€90.18 @ Amazon Deutschland
Storage	Samsung 970 Evo Plus 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	€89.24 @ Mindfactory
Storage	Crucial MX500 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive	€98.89 @ Alternate
Video Card	Asus GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4 GB Phoenix Video Card	€325.00 @ Amazon Deutschland
Case	NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Case	€73.79 @ Mindfactory
Power Supply	Corsair RM (2019) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	€92.90 @ Amazon Deutschland
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	€1350.61
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-05-02 19:53 CEST+0200

 what about this list? Im not sure about the cooler, I didn't want liquid cooling, but then i realized how big fans are

[Hofas]

1 hour ago, OfficialTechSpace said:

PSU's this powerful are not necessary for a mid-tier Gaming PC. Plus, the CX750 is only Bronze efficiency rated.

I saw a CX750 80+ Gold idk 

1 hour ago, OfficialTechSpace said:

More expensive, and worse performance

Yea but price was good earlier maybe it's changed now.

1 hour ago, OfficialTechSpace said:

Why would you recommend either of these for a new gaming build? 32GB's of RAM is not necessary, and 3200Mhz is dumb when 3600Mhz is so similarly priced.

I just wanted to mention dual channel, ik 32 makes no sense but upgrades are required after some time. 

About 3600mhz, both intel i5-11600kf and ryzen 5 3600x only supports 3200mhz out of the box and idk if motherboard supports 3600mhz xmp

1 hour ago, OfficialTechSpace said:

No. That is simply false. Not for a higher-TDP Intel part, no. It has a 90mm fan for christs sake

Bruhh I was recommending amd so that cooler is the best for it. Ik intel doesn't need custom cooler.