i5 10600k vs i9 10850k (Video Editing & Photoshop) Not About Render Time.

[GratoNite]

Hey all, I'm currently running a Ryzen 7 1700 stock with Gigabyte AB350M Gaming 3 since 2017. I think it's time for an upgrade!

 

I'm a gamer and also work as a video editor and photo editor (If I got an order/commission).
I use premiere, after effects, and photoshop mainly, also affinity designer sometimes.

 

I want someone to bust the myth for me right here right now.

If I tried searching for "i5 10600k vs i9 10850k video editing" It will just show up a bunch of rendering time benchmarks which I couldn't care less for.

 

I want to know how much different are they in the terms of "Editing/Working Experience". Like I said, I couldn't care less about rendering time, I just want the editing/working process to be stutter free, lag free, previews faster and all (Editing while being laggy or super heavy is stressful I tell ya).

 

If they aren't that much different in the terms of "editing experience", I'll save the money and take the i5, with the price of the i9, I can get two 10600k honestly.

 

I even read that previews while editing are being done by GPU, not CPU. 

Well in the terms of gaming, the 10600k can definitely go toe-to-toe with the i9 in 1080p. (I'm running 1080p 144hz).

 

Also, I would most likely get the MSI MAG B460M Mortar as my motherboard (I've read good VRM temperatures about it, and I don't plan on overclocking, I've seen benchmarks of overclocked 10600k and stock, honestly not that much different.)
Otherwise, the other one would be Asus Prime Z490-P, should I even get that?

[S.Hamed23]

14 minutes ago, GratoNite said:

Hey all, I'm currently running a Ryzen 7 1700 stock since 2017. I think it's time for an upgrade!

 

I'm a gamer and also work as a video editor and photo editor (If I got an order/commission).
I use premiere, after effects, and photoshop mainly, also affinity designer sometimes.

 

I want someone to bust the myth for me right here right now.

If I tried searching for "i5 10600k vs i9 10850k video editing" It will just show up a bunch of rendering time benchmarks which I couldn't care less for.

 

I want to know how much different are they in the terms of "Editing/Working Experience". Like I said, I couldn't care less about rendering time, I just want the editing/working process to be stutter free, lag free, previews faster and all (Editing while being laggy or super heavy is stressful I tell ya).

 

If they aren't that much different in the terms of "editing experience", I'll save the money and take the i5, with the price of the i9, I can get two 10600k honestly.

 

I even read that previews while editing are being done by GPU, not CPU. 

Well in the terms of gaming, the 10600k can definitely go toe-to-toe with the i9 in 1080p. (I'm running 1080p 144hz).

 

Also, I would most likely get the MSI MAG B460M Mortar as my motherboard (I've read good VRM temperatures about it, and I don't plan on overclocking, I've seen benchmarks of overclocked 10600k and stock, honestly not that much different.)
Otherwise, the other one would be Asus Prime Z490-P, should I even get that?

Intel cpu cores are all the same in various model, unlike amd.
In gaming, you'll see no difference than 3-5 fps if upgraded to an i9.
Btw, considering your workflow, why Intel?

[Jurrunio]

Then you should tell us the software you're using.

 

Unsurprising for benchmarks to.only cover render times, it's hard to rate editing experience objectively with a number.

[jaslion]

2 minutes ago, S.Hamed23 said:

Intel cpu cores are all the same in various model, unlike amd.
In gaming, you'll see no difference than 3-5 fps if upgraded to an i9.
Btw, considering your workflow, why Intel?

This is just wrong.

A 9900k is entirely different from a 10600k and so on.

 

As for op a 10600k wouldn't be much of an upgrade. Why not just get a ryzen 3000 and keep your motherboard? Most value for the money and probably going to get you a 3900x which is the better cpu for your work by far. Depends on the board tho which I don't know.

[GratoNite]

2 minutes ago, S.Hamed23 said:

Intel cpu cores are all the same in various model, unlike amd.
In gaming, you'll see no difference than 3-5 fps if upgraded to an i9.
Btw, considering your workflow, why Intel?

So, i5 vs i9 for video editing workflow doesn't really matter? (Not about render time)

To answer the second question, because the price of the new 3000 or 5000 series ryzen is bonkers here.

The 5600x is 10 more expensive than the i9 10850k. I guess there are many Ryzen enthusiasts in my country so stock is limited.

[GratoNite]

Just now, jaslion said:

This is just wrong.

A 9900k is entirely different from a 10600k and so on.

 

As for op a 10600k wouldn't be much of an upgrade. Why not just get a ryzen 3000 and keep your motherboard? Most value for the money and probably going to get you a 3900x which is the better cpu for your work by far. Depends on the board tho which I don't know.

I don't think my board supports it, but I don't know, my board is an old Gigabyte AB350M Gaming 3.

3900x is around 200$ more expensive than i9 10850k

[GratoNite]

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Then you should tell us the software you're using.

 

Unsurprising for benchmarks to.only cover render times, it's hard to rate editing experience objectively with a number.

I did, didn't I? Basically Premiere, After Effects, Photoshop (all CC2021) with Affinity designer

[S.Hamed23]

2 minutes ago, jaslion said:

This is just wrong.

A 9900k is entirely different from a 10600k and so on.

 

As for op a 10600k wouldn't be much of an upgrade. Why not just get a ryzen 3000 and keep your motherboard? Most value for the money and probably going to get you a 3900x which is the better cpu for your work by far. Depends on the board tho which I don't know.

comparing 9900k vs 10900k is wrong for the cores
Comparing 10600k vs 10900k is fair for cores. You got me wrong there

[S.Hamed23]

2 minutes ago, GratoNite said:

So, i5 vs i9 for video editing workflow doesn't really matter? (Not about render time)

To answer the second question, because the price of the new 3000 or 5000 series ryzen is bonkers here.

The 5600x is 10 more expensive than the i9 10850k. I guess there are many Ryzen enthusiasts in my country so stock is limited.

In most functions, you won't find much difference except rendering.

[GratoNite]

4 minutes ago, S.Hamed23 said:

In most functions, you won't find much difference except rendering.

So there are barely any difference in the editing process/workflow, the i9 only wins in render time noticably?

So, I should just save the money and go for the i5 10600k?

[S.Hamed23]

Just now, GratoNite said:

So there are barely any difference in the editing process/workflow, the i9 only wins in render time noticably?

So, I should just save the money and go for the i5 10600k?

definitely. That's why I'm running a 9600k instead of a 9900k.

[jaslion]

47 minutes ago, GratoNite said:

I don't think my board supports it, but I don't know, my board is an old Gigabyte AB350M Gaming 3.

3900x is around 200$ more expensive than i9 10850k

Yeah that board stops at a 3700x. It does support the 3900x but is not capable of handling the powerdraw. Either way a 3700(x) would also be a massive upgrade and well honestly be better overall than a 10600k as just editing is also very much so multi core so faster rendering + at least equal editing performance for a lower overall price sounds like the best bet here.

 

Edit: As for gaming that cpu has no problem at all going over 144fps in any game as long as the gpu is of course up for it.

[GratoNite]

33 minutes ago, jaslion said:

Yeah that board stops at a 3700x. It does support the 3900x but is not capable of handling the powerdraw. Either way a 3700(x) would also be a massive upgrade and well honestly be better overall than a 10600k as just editing is also very much so multi core so faster rendering + at least equal editing performance for a lower overall price sounds like the best bet here.

 

Edit: As for gaming that cpu has no problem at all going over 144fps in any game as long as the gpu is of course up for it.

As I said, the ryzen price is stupid here, msi mag b460m + 10600k is cheaper by 10$ than the 3700x, why does the 3700x cost that much? 

 

However 3600 is reasonably priced. 

 

10600k + b460 = 530$

Ryzen 3700x alone = 540$

Ryzen 3600 = 280$

[Jurrunio]

Then what matters is actually the GPU, it renders the scene in realtime so you can scroll freely. These CPUs are already pretty good.on their own.

[Mister Woof]

6th gen to 10th gen there isn't much of a difference in IPC at the same clocks.

 

The difference will be each generation gets more refinement and better clocks at any given voltage and later iterations will be able to hit higher clocks more reliably.

 

There's also differences in thermal solutions and designs, with the 7th and 8th generation using generic toothpaste, with 9th, 10th, and 11th returning to soldered TIM, and 10th and 11th gen additionally redesigning the IHS/die for better thermals.

 

Finally, there's difference in hardware mitigation for security issues, where later generations are impacted less than earlier generations.

 

On top of that, each SKU within the same generation usually has other benefits vs their lower SKU brothers such as binning and in the case of SKUs with more cores, more cache and faster iGPU.

 

It's fair enough IMO to say though that within a very small margin, all equally clocked 6th through 9th generation intel CPUs are basically going to be the same or at least behave relatively the same.

 

11th generation has a different architecture, as well as memory controller implementation.  It's a backported 10nm to 14nm design. So it's not entirely an apples to apples comparison to previous generations.

 

So with all things being equal, a 6700k at 5.2ghz vs a 10900k at 5.2hz, in apps that can't take advantage of higher core counts, that performance would be very similar.

 

The thing is, a 6700k isn't going to hit 5.2ghz. The 10900k will (most likely more even), AND have more cores.

 

Regarding 10600k vs 10900k, I would look at some puget systems benchmarks as they usually go pretty in depth about this stuff.

 

If your application can't utilize the extra cores, there might be a 100-200mhz difference in maximum overclocking, or at least a 200-300mhz difference in stock operation, between the two CPUs.

 

 

[GratoNite]

I still can't decide. 

 

Or should i just go for the 3600? Would that be a significant upgrade from my 1700?

 

That will overall costs cheaper

[WhitetailAni]

What is your current motherboard? That will help us know what to recommend, as if the motherboard is strong enough you may be able to get a 3900X (12 cores, 24 threads, on AM4).

[GratoNite]

5 minutes ago, FakeKGB said:

What is your current motherboard? That will help us know what to recommend, as if the motherboard is strong enough you may be able to get a 3900X (12 cores, 24 threads, on AM4).

I'll add it to the post, sorry, 

 

Gigabyte AB350M Gaming 3

[WhitetailAni]

Just now, GratoNite said:

I'll add it to the post, sorry, 

 

Gigabyte AB350M Gaming 3

You'll want to upgrade that no matter what - that is not a great board by modern standards.

Here, I'd advise the 10850K + Z490-P. 10 cores, 20 threads will be fine for years to come, and the 10850K has been quite cheap lately. The 10600K is 6C/12T which is fine today, but won't be in the future as games are programmed to take advantage of more cores.

[GratoNite]

7 minutes ago, FakeKGB said:

You'll want to upgrade that no matter what - that is not a great board by modern standards.

Here, I'd advise the 10850K + Z490-P. 10 cores, 20 threads will be fine for years to come, and the 10850K has been quite cheap lately. The 10600K is 6C/12T which is fine today, but won't be in the future as games are programmed to take advantage of more cores.

10600k vs 10850k? Someone above said that the i9 isn't worth the 2x price tag because my only concerns are editing experience/workflow and gaming because something called IPC is the same on all intel 10th gen, (I don't really care about render time) 

 

I would like to get the one wjth the best bang for the buck! 

[WhitetailAni]

2 minutes ago, GratoNite said:

10600k vs 10850k? Someone above said that the i9 isn't worth the 2x price tag because my only concerns are editing experience/workflow and gaming because something called IPC is the same on all intel 10th gen, (I don't really care about render time) 

 

I would like to get the one wjth the best bang for the buck! 

The 10850K will be a competent gaming CPU for years to come, thanks to its 10 cores, compared to the 10600K's 6. Games will only be programmed to use more, and having a lack of cores will hurt performance.

 

Get the 10850K. It costs more, but it's worth the extra money.