Internet help

[Thubbe]

Ok, so I am trying to host a minecraft server, and for that I need to portforward so others can join, simple, right?
Ofcourse it isn't, my network looks like this since I live in a big house where we earlier had very poor internet connection before getting a second router

 

Internet -> modem -> router 1 -> router 2

 

The problem I have is that I can't get the signal from the first router to the second, I've tried both portforwarding aswell as dmz but I haven't succeded.

If anyone happens to know what I might be doing wrong or how I can do this please tell me.

 

Also if anyone happens to know how I would set it up so it is parallel that might work aswell. A.k.A. this:

                                  router 1

Internet -> modem - v ^

                                  router 2

[Radium_Angel]

Why do you need two routers?

[Thubbe]

3 minutes ago, Radium_Angel said:

Why do you need two routers?

I tried to add some info to the original post to account for your question but to be exact it's becasue we had poor internet connection on the second floor of our house

[Radium_Angel]

Gotcha.

I've never found connecting two routers together to be a great idea. Now I know modern routers have the option of turning one into a fancy switch, but have you considered putting WAPs (Wireless Access Points) upstairs instead of another router? 

[curiousmind34]

30 minutes ago, Thubbe said:

Ok, so I am trying to host a minecraft server, and for that I need to portforward so others can join, simple, right?
Ofcourse it isn't, my network looks like this since I live in a big house where we earlier had very poor internet connection before getting a second router

 

Internet -> modem -> router 1 -> router 2

 

The problem I have is that I can't get the signal from the first router to the second, I've tried both portforwarding aswell as dmz but I haven't succeded.

If anyone happens to know what I might be doing wrong or how I can do this please tell me.

 

Also if anyone happens to know how I would set it up so it is parallel that might work aswell. A.k.A. this:

                                  router 1

Internet -> modem - v ^

                                  router 2

Your ip should be forwarded from router 2 to router one. Check what your ip is in your router one is (and don't forget to make it static) and then portforward from there.

[Thubbe]

1 minute ago, curiousmind34 said:

Your ip should be forwarded from router 2 to router one. Check what your ip is in your router one is (and don't forget to make it static) and then portforward from there.

Router 1 currecntly cannot see my ip when connected to router 2, router 2 does show up as a device (like any other, for example a phone or pc)

[Thubbe]

7 minutes ago, Radium_Angel said:

Gotcha.

I've never found connecting two routers together to be a great idea. Now I know modern routers have the option of turning one into a fancy switch, but have you considered putting WAPs (Wireless Access Points) upstairs instead of another router? 

We did but we decided against it for uh, some reason, I don't really make the decisions here

[Radium_Angel]

I understand

So, what hardware do you have? Model numbers, etc. for the router and modem, please

[Radium_Angel]

BTW, this may provide some use to you

https://superuser.com/questions/853383/port-forwarding-in-a-network-with-2-routers

 

[Thubbe]

4 minutes ago, Radium_Angel said:

I understand

So, what hardware do you have? Model numbers, etc. for the router and modem, please

Not sure on the exact model of the modem but it's an old Inteno modem, for the two routers one is an Asus AX58U and the other is an Asus AC66U

[curiousmind34]

1 minute ago, Thubbe said:

Not sure on the exact model of the modem but it's an old Inteno modem, for the two routers one is an Asus AX58U and the other is an Asus AC66U

You need to forward the port with the same number twice. Config it to send from the main router to the secondary router in the main routers software, and then config it to run from the second router to your connected device on the second routers software. 

 

[Thubbe]

11 minutes ago, curiousmind34 said:

You need to forward the port with the same number twice. Config it to send from the main router to the secondary router in the main routers software, and then config it to run from the second router to your connected device on the second routers software. 

 

So on router 1 portforward the second router and on router 2 portforward the device?

[curiousmind34]

Just now, Thubbe said:

So on router 1 portforward the second router and on router 2 portforward the device?

correct

[Thubbe]

9 minutes ago, curiousmind34 said:

correct

Either I am doing it wrong or it doesn't work.

For reference, here's how I did it. I went to router 1 and checked ip of router 2, went to portforward that ip with the port 25565, then I went to router 2 and portforwarded my pc ip with the port 25565

[curiousmind34]

1 minute ago, Thubbe said:

Either I am doing it wrong or it doesn't work.

For reference, here's how I did it. I went to router 1 and checked ip of router 2, went to portforward that ip with the port 25565, then I went to router 2 and portforwarded my pc ip with the port 25565

That's weird. try running ipconfig on your device in command prompt and find you ipv4 adress, and run tracert google.com so you can see your second router listed with its ip and then first router

[Thubbe]

8 minutes ago, curiousmind34 said:

That's weird. try running ipconfig on your device in command prompt and find you ipv4 adress, and run tracert google.com so you can see your second router listed with its ip and then first router

Come back with

1 router.asus.com [192.168.2.1]

2 router.asus.com [192.168.1.1]

3 my wan ip adress

etc. etc. 

Which is sort of weird as router 1 has it's ip 192.168.50.1

 

Also ran a tracert on another pc connected to router 1 which came back with

1 router.asus.com [192.168.50.1]

2 my wan ip

etc. etc.

[curiousmind34]

My bad, I forgot the domain name server. Here, this short video will explain this better than I can: 

 

[Thubbe]

20 minutes ago, curiousmind34 said:

My bad, I forgot the domain name server. Here, this short video will explain this better than I can: 

 

If my dns and default gateway is the same, what should I do?

[Falcon1986]

@Thubbe

 

Do you realize that routers 1 and 2 are on completely different subnets. Things are going to be difficult to configure as a result. Your current setup needs fixing; for simple home networking, designate 1 device as the router and others as the access points or switches. You don’t necessarily need a dedicated AP as many modern wireless routers can be converted to AP mode (i.e. it retains its WiFi and switch functionality, but surrenders routing to another upstream device).

 

Which Asus router is the “2nd router”? Just look up AP mode for that specific router and convert the unit to it. Ensure you give this AP a static LAN IP address that is on the same subnet as the 1st router but outside of its DHCP pool. Also, point the gateway LAN IP of the AP to that of the 1st router. When some wireless routers are converted to APs, you no longer use the WAN port. So your ethernet uplink to 1st router is via LAN-to-LAN.

 

That’s it! That’s all you need to do! Configure the necessary ports on the 1st router. Everything will be passed onto the AP as its firewall should be disabled since it’s no longer in router mode.