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Nelzbef

So im building a gaming pc but with many questionmarks regarding the choice of cpu and how much to spend on it.

The game im gonna be playing the most is World of Warcraft, and what i have read its a very cpu based/required game. How much of a cpu is needed to get a minimum of 100+ fps with (hopefully) 1440p resolution? The gpu is most probably gonna be a RTX 3070 (maybe a 2080 super).

 

I have thought about a Ryzen 5 5600x but is it enough for such a cpu required game? I have also had Ryzen 7 5800x and maybe a Ryzen 9 5900x in mind. If a 5600x is enough i will go with that though.
 

Other triple A titles will also be played so for those the RTX 2080 super or 3070 is clear it will be good gameplay with good enough fps (at least for me). 
 

I will be using a 27” WQHD 144hz monitor.

 

Thoughts or experiences are very welcome!

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Streaming and gaming you want more Memory and cores. For just gaming a 5600X is a fine processors. Can't go wrong.

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2 minutes ago, Nelzbef said:

The game im gonna be playing the most is World of Warcraft, and what i have read its a very cpu based/required game. How much of a cpu is needed to get a minimum of 100+ fps with (hopefully) 1440p resolution? The gpu is most probably gonna be a RTX 3070 (maybe a 2080 super).

i think WoW is very CPU thread dependant (not cores, it don't scale too well i think? it's an old game after all)

so a 5600x or intel's 10th gen should do fine, but whether if it'll get 100fps is unknown, but those are the best candidates so if they cant then nothing else can.

 

5600x is a good gaming chip, if you can find one

or else, the 10400 from intel is decent if you're not overclocking.

 

going 8 core will not yield much difference in perf, other than slight boost in clock speed for higher end SKUs

-sigh- feeling like I'm being too negative lately

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5600x. It's as fast as a 10900k for gaming, it's in stock now, and it's cheeper.

I could use some help with this!

please, pm me if you would like to contribute to my gpu bios database (includes overclocking bios, stock bios, and upgrades to gpus via modding)

Bios database

My beautiful, but not that powerful, main PC:

prior build:

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5 hours ago, HelpfulTechWizard said:

5600x. It's as fast as a 10900k for gaming, it's in stock now, and it's cheeper.

Do i need to worry about bottlenecking Ryzen 5 5600x with either RTX 2080S or 3070?

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6 hours ago, Moonzy said:

i think WoW is very CPU thread dependant (not cores, it don't scale too well i think? it's an old game after all)

so a 5600x or intel's 10th gen should do fine, but whether if it'll get 100fps is unknown, but those are the best candidates so if they cant then nothing else can.

 

5600x is a good gaming chip, if you can find one

or else, the 10400 from intel is decent if you're not overclocking.

 

going 8 core will not yield much difference in perf, other than slight boost in clock speed for higher end SKUs

Thank you for your input!

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5 minutes ago, Nelzbef said:

Do i need to worry about bottlenecking Ryzen 5 5600x with either RTX 2080S or 3070?

For WoW, any modern CPU would be the bottleneck for any decent GPU

Since it's so thread heavy and not heavy on graphics

-sigh- feeling like I'm being too negative lately

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6 hours ago, Moonzy said:

For WoW, any modern CPU would be the bottleneck for any decent GPU

Since it's so thread heavy and not heavy on graphics

so you mean you can put a 2700x and a 750ti in it and it will be fine?

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Intel Core i5-10600K | GIGABYTE Z490 AORUS ELITE | Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML240L| RGB Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro  16GB (2x8) CL18 3600MHz |

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3 minutes ago, cottechguy said:

so you mean you can put a 2700x and a 750ti in it and it will be fine?

Define "fine"

 

Don't think it'll explode, but the 750ti is not a decent GPU in today's standard, so you may be limited by it

 

Though I'm not entirely sure if it'll be a problem for wow because it's such an old game, but I believe so

-sigh- feeling like I'm being too negative lately

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8 hours ago, Nelzbef said:

Do i need to worry about bottlenecking Ryzen 5 5600x with either RTX 2080S or 3070?

No. Unless your going to play at like 720p, a 5600x is plenty.

I could use some help with this!

please, pm me if you would like to contribute to my gpu bios database (includes overclocking bios, stock bios, and upgrades to gpus via modding)

Bios database

My beautiful, but not that powerful, main PC:

prior build:

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Budget: 3600 or 10400F

Mid: 3700X, 5600X or 10700

Anything over is just overkill... 

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R20 score MC: 3529cb | R20 score SC: 506cb

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Zen-II-X6-3600+ (Gaming PC)

R23 score MC: 9893pts | R23 score SC: 1248pts @4.2GHz

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Apple A4 - Apple iPod touch (4th generation)
Apple A5 - Apple iPod touch (5th generation)
Apple A9 - Apple iPhone 6s Plus
HiSilicon Kirin 810 (T.S.M.C. 7nm) - Huawei P40 Lite / Huawei nova 7i
Mediatek MT2601 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - TicWatch E
Mediatek MT6580 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - TECNO Spark 2 (1GB RAM)
Mediatek MT6592M (T.S.M.C 28nm) - my|phone my32 (orange)
Mediatek MT6592M (T.S.M.C 28nm) - my|phone my32 (yellow)
Mediatek MT6735 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - HMD Nokia 3 Dual SIM
Mediatek MT6737 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - Cherry Mobile Flare S6
Mediatek MT6739 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - my|phone myX8 (blue)
Mediatek MT6739 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - my|phone myX8 (gold)
Mediatek MT6750 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - honor 6C Pro / honor V9 Play
Mediatek MT6765 (T.S.M.C 12nm) - TECNO Pouvoir 3 Plus
Mediatek MT6797D (T.S.M.C 20nm) - my|phone Brown Tab 1
Qualcomm MSM8926 (T.S.M.C. 28nm) - Microsoft Lumia 640 LTE
Qualcomm MSM8974AA (T.S.M.C. 28nm) - Blackberry Passport
Qualcomm SDM710 (Samsung 10nm) - Oppo Realme 3 Pro

 

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