10700K/9900K

[Stoompieee]

Hello everyone, 

 

Right now I'm planning to upgrade my curreny system (2600x 2060 etc) to Intel. Right now there hardly is any AMD on the market, and I feel like Intel with how current pricing is is the better deal to go with. 

However, I'm thinking of 2 processors to buy. The I7 10700K or the I9 9900k. Both of the processors are exactly the same when it comes to core and thread count, the I9 has a 12nm die, the I7 has a 14nm die. The I7 has a bit of a higer base clock, but that can be brought higher on both with the right voltage OC. 

 

Can anyone help me find the right choice? It's really nagging at me. My gpu will stay as the 2060, just because I find anything else than that right now to be a huge overkill, also because of the shortage of cards on the market.

 

Please let me know your opinion on this matter.

 

Thank you.

[Fasauceome]

4 minutes ago, Stoompieee said:

My gpu will stay as the 2060, just because I find anything else than that right now to be a huge overkill,

how would an upgrade to an i7 or i9 not be overkill, but anything greater than a 2060 would be?

 

Is right now the time you must buy? true, there is currently low supply on the market for AMD, but waiting for stock to be available means you don't need a new motherboard.

[Mister Woof]

Both are 14nm process

 

10700k has improved thermal design, less detriment from security fixes, and therefore easier to cool and higher capacity for frequency and overclocking. But these differences are not game changing.

 

The 2600x, especially when paired with an RTX 2060, isn't really a bad setup. You might gain some FPS at 1080p or if you play very CPU intensive games with FPS minimums, but I do not believe it would be worthwhile.

 

In March, it is speculated that Intel will finally release something meaningful vs. Ryzen 5000. I would wait until then, as you will likely have the option between Intel 11th generation and also improved Ryzen 5000 series supply.

 

Right now you're just choosing a placeholder for something you actually want, which is a bad place to be.

 

 

[Stoompieee]

6 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

how would an upgrade to an i7 or i9 not be overkill, but anything greater than a 2060 would be?

 

Is right now the time you must buy? true, there is currently low supply on the market for AMD, but waiting for stock to be available means you don't need a new motherboard.

I can get the 5600x for 359€. That is 60€ over msrp. Is that still worth it? It's the same price as the 9900k.

 

[Stoompieee]

7 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

Both are 14nm process

 

10700k has improved thermal design, less detriment from security fixes, and therefore easier to cool and higher capacity for frequency and overclocking. But these differences are not game changing.

 

The 2600x, especially when paired with an RTX 2060, isn't really a bad setup. You might gain some FPS at 1080p or if you play very CPU intensive games with FPS minimums, but I do not believe it would be worthwhile.

 

In March, it is speculated that Intel will finally release something meaningful vs. Ryzen 5000. I would wait until then, as you will likely have the option between Intel 11th generation and also improved Ryzen 5000 series supply.

 

Right now you're just choosing a placeholder for something you actually want, which is a bad place to be.

 

 

All you said is very true, and I do agree. As I said to the other person, a 5600x I can get today for 359€. Is that worth it? My 2600x is good, yes. But because of bad silicon lottery and a low single clock I feel like I'm limiting the fps I should be getting, especially in supposedly easier games to run such as modded MC for example. Red Dead has the same issue, as it almost always crashes with my 2600x, but not on the same setup but with an intel processor. 

 

[Mister Woof]

2 minutes ago, Stoompieee said:

I can get the 5600x for 359€. That is 60€ over msrp. Is that still worth it? It's the same price as the 9900k.

 

If you have competent hardware already and are not in desperate need, don't pay over MSRP for anything in my humble opinion

[Stoompieee]

10 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

If you have competent hardware already and are not in desperate need, don't pay over MSRP for anything in my humble opinion

Then I have one more question, since I'm quite convinced to stay on AMD now. Should I get the 3900x for more cores but less single core performance, or should I get the 5800x for a few less cores, but way better single and dual core performance?

[porina]

1 minute ago, Stoompieee said:

Should I get the 3900x for more cores but less single core performance, or should I get the 5800x for a few less cores, but way better single and dual core performance?

If gaming is the focus I'd go 5800X no hesitation. If you do other highly CPU demanding stuff, then the 3900X might make more sense.

[Mister Woof]

1 minute ago, Stoompieee said:

Then I have one more question, since I'm quite convinced to stay on AMD now. Should I get the 3900x for more cores but less single core performance, or should I get the 5800x for a few less cores, but way better single and dual core performance?

I would always go for whatever is faster vs. whatever has more cores, unless your specific workload relies heavily on core count.

 

In gaming, absolutely get the faster option as long as it has enough cores.

[Stoompieee]

Thank you both very much! I really appreciate the help.