3930k vs 4930k ?

[Lays]

I was thinking about getting a 4930k since I've nearly degraded my chip .05 of a volt for basically anything over 4.7 Ghz.

( This isn't because I need it, it's more just a replacement thing before I kill my 3930k )

 

My other option I was thinking about, would be to buy z97 + 5770k when it comes out, sell my 3930k + RIVE + 16gb of ram and use the leftover $ to upgrade other things in my setup.

( I honestly almost never use the 6 Cores, and I have yet to see my ram over 16gb )

 

When I first got the CPU, 1.34v was fine for 4.5, 1.36v was fine for 4.6, 1.39v  for 4.7, 1.42v  for 4.8, 1.47v  for 4.9, 1.525v for 5.0

 

Now it's to 1.37v for 4.5, 1.39 for 4.6, 1.44 for 4.7, 1.47 for 4.8, 1.515 for 4.9 and 1.592v for 5. 

 

I have intel's tuning plan, but I'd rather have a backup plan before I have to use it. (It runs out soon, like 4 months)

I'm also unsure how intel's tuning plan works, I don't know what qualifies me to actually use it.

 

 

 

I was reading some threads on overclock.net about 3930k vs 4930k and this is what someone mentioned:

 

 

If both were new I'd probably go with a 4930k because:
1. Less heat
2. Less volts -both easier on the mobo as the processor, although ib-e probably can't take as many volts as sb-e (just a feeling)
3. Better IMC - helps if you have some nice ram speeds

 

 

If there was a temperature decrease, how much would it be? 

Also, if it was to require less volts, how much less would it be?

The TDP would be lower seeing as less volts correct? (my 3930k has ridiculous TDP at 1.45+ volts, literally close to 300 watts) 

(I understand silicon lottery is dependent but I'm sure a rough ballpark can be estimated)

 

 

I understand my overclocking capabilties may be lower on Ivy-E than Sandy-E, but as of right now considering my 3930k has degraded quite a bit, I don't think it'd be to bad.

 

 

Two last things: 

 

If I was to get the 4930k, I could simply sell the 3930k on ebay and only lose ~200$ 

 

Also, I know I could simply back-off my overclocks, but I don't want to

 

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated

[harrynowl]

I'd just go to Broadwell whenever we see that. This doesn't sound like a worthwhile investment from your usage.

 

You should back off your OC a bit, not as if you're lacking any performance

 

1) Depending on bin could be around 15c at same clockspeed.

 

2) UP TO 150mV (or so). Some Sandies on high end have stock vcore around 1.3-1.35, Ivy had 1.1-1.2v

 

3) True, it will probably be 40-50W lower. Still high.

[Lays]

I'd just go to Broadwell whenever we see that. This doesn't sound like a worthwhile investment from your usage.

 

You should back off your OC a bit, not as if you're lacking any performance

 

1) Depending on bin could be around 15c at same clockspeed.

 

2) UP TO 150mV (or so). Some Sandies on high end have stock vcore around 1.3-1.35, Ivy had 1.1-1.2v

 

3) True, it will probably be 40-50W lower. Still high.

 

 

That'd be nice for my temps, I could leave the fans on my rads at much lower speeds whilst still getting the same temps then.

What would be my limit before degradation on Ivy-e, 1.4v? 

 

Do you think broadwell will be soldered IHS or TIM? I wouldn't mind delidding if needed, I figure it'd be a fun experience.

If there's a good red/black high-end board I'll go broadwell probably. ( My rig is already set up red/black )

 

 

My #1 problem right now is I honestly don't use my 6 cores + 32gb ram.  I was streaming/ trying to learn to video edit, but it's not like I can't do that with 16gb/5770k anyways.

 

(I understand it's nice to have extra, but if I never use it what's the point)

[harrynowl]

That'd be nice for my temps, I could leave the fans on my rads at much lower speeds whilst still getting the same temps then.

What would be my limit before degradation on Ivy-e, 1.4v? 

 

Do you think broadwell will be soldered IHS or TIM? I wouldn't mind delidding if needed, I figure it'd be a fun experience.

If there's a good red/black high-end board I'll go broadwell probably. ( My rig is already set up red/black )

 

 

My #1 problem right now is I honestly don't use my 6 cores + 32gb ram.  I was streaming/ trying to learn to video edit, but it's not like I can't do that with 16gb/5770k anyways.

 

(I understand it's nice to have extra, but if I never use it what's the point)

No idea on degradation, I've never shopped extreme end and the 2600K I use now is my first Intel since 2006.

 

Hopefully soldered I think Intel might listen to us this time, but don't bank on it.

 

Pretty sure a Z97 OC Formula/MSI Gaming/ASUS ROG would suit you nicely with colour scheme.

 

You'll be fine on a 5770K, if the IPC is up another 10% you'll probably be around 3930K levels of performance anyway. (30% up on Sandy-E).

[Lays]

No idea on degradation, I've never shopped extreme end and the 2600K I use now is my first Intel since 2006.

 

Hopefully soldered I think Intel might listen to us this time, but don't bank on it.

 

Pretty sure a Z97 OC Formula/MSI Gaming/ASUS ROG would suit you nicely with colour scheme.

 

You'll be fine on a 5770K, if the IPC is up another 10% you'll probably be around 3930K levels of performance anyway. (30% up on Sandy-E).

 

 

I'll probably buy a high end mobo and shoot for the stars with Overclocks, broadwell is "supposed" to support ddr4, so I could probably sell my 32gb of ddr3 and buy a 16gb kit of ddr4.

[DoubleY]

If you do plan on getting into streaming as a normal thing, I would stick with a hexa core CPU. On my 4770 while streaming BF4 I see ~90% CPU usage which is a little bit too close for comfort for me (that's while streaming 720p 60fps). However, I would wait for Haswell-E and get a 5930k. I'm sure that thing will be a monster.

 

If you don't actually care about streaming, it's just an excuse to use your CPU, obviously step down to something less powerful. Again though, I would wait for Broadwell and get a 5770K or even the 5670K if you don't do rendering/streaming. As I'm sure you know, not many programs use Hyper-Threading.

[Faa]

Well they mostly do 4.5GHz but the IPC is on par with a SB of ~4.9GHz in games (avoid CB cuz you get higher ipc differences in games), the power consumption will be a lot lower and you can run that cpu under an evo 212. Imagine if you get a 4.9GHz out of it, thats like dunno 5.6-5.7GHz SB. This IPC gain will be effective but dont expect something ridiculously high

If I can give another suggestion, I would switch to aircooling and swap to a smaller case you might earn 500$ or more that would be enough for a 1440p or save up for a 4K monitor. Since I know that you're a noise bitch like me, the gpu's would be the only problem in sli only on air but do you care about noise when gaming? 

[Lays]

Well they mostly do 4.5GHz but the IPC is on par with a SB of ~4.9GHz in games (avoid CB cuz you get higher ipc differences in games), the power consumption will be a lot lower and you can run that cpu under an evo 212. Imagine if you get a 4.9GHz out of it, thats like dunno 5.6-5.7GHz SB. This IPC gain will be effective but dont expect something ridiculously high

If I can give another suggestion, I would switch to aircooling and swap to a smaller case you might earn 500$ or more that would be enough for a 1440p or save up for a 4K monitor. Since I know that you're a noise bitch like me, the gpu's would be the only problem in sli only on air but do you care about noise when gaming? 

 

 

I'm never going to air cooling again, I have open headphones and I spent like 1100$ on my watercooling loop, selling it would just lose me an insane amount of money, and I'm WAY to much of a noise freak to do it.  The loudest thing in my case is the HDD lol

 

The second 1440p monitor is already taken care of once I get my tax refunds so its no biggie