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Prebuilt dilemma

Hi all,

I've recently purchased a system for my daughter to be shipped by end of February from Cyberpower, While I would've been more comfortable building the PC my self, the shortage of 3000's series card make it extremely hard to do so.

The PC was part of a very..short sale that I managed to land, so I believe this is a good deal for the money considering the spec.

the only thing I'm really skeptical about is their build quality or customer service, I looked them up on forum and they are littered with complaints.

my last pre-built was made by iBuyPower and it has been a solid PC for 9 years now, I don't know much about Cyberpower though. as Initially I intended to get my PC done by NZXT BLD, but their pricing is far higher, though I believe they have a bit better reputation in quality. After watching Linus Prebuilt series, at least it seems IBP is more competence in handling your PC/CS. 

I wonder if the reviews as bad as they are for Cyberpower, I could wait for the system to ship and if push come shove if it get bad, I can try NZXT BLD instead.

 

Has anyone here ever had an experience with Cyberpower?

The PC

CASE: Eclipse P418R DRGB ATX Mid-Tower High Air Flow Gaming Case + 3x 120mm ARGB Fans

VIDEO: GeForce RTX™ 3070 8GB GDDR6
CPU: Intel® Core™
Processor i9-10900KF 10/20 3.70GHz [Turbo 5.2GHz] 20MB Cache LGA1200 [w/o Integrated Graphic] (Comet Lake-S)
FAN: MasterLiquid Lite 120mm ARGB CPU Liquid Cooler with Dual Chamber Pump & Copper Cold Plate
HDD: 1TB Intel
® 665P SERIES PCIe NVMe M.2 SSD - Seq R/W: Up to 2000/1925 MB/s, Rnd R/W up to 160/250k(Single Drive)
HDD2: 2TB (2TBx1) SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 256MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Drive)
MEMORY: 32GB (8GBx4) DDR4/3000MHz Dual Channel Memory (Crucial Ballistix Sport)
MOTHERBOARD: ASUS PRIME Z490-V ATX, ARGB, 1GbE LAN, 2 PCIe x16, 4 PCIe x1, 4 SATA3, 2x M.2 SATA/PCIe + WiFi 6 Intel 201AX
POWERSUPPLY: 600 Watts - Standard 600Watts 80 Plus Gold high-efficient Power Supply

Total : $1570

aside the notorious standard PSU that I will need swap out for the safety of the PC, I think this isn't bad.

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15 minutes ago, GrandExchange said:

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I'd be very worried about that PSU, being 600 watts, it's a bit low, that PC could hit 600 watts possibly under extreme loads, but it's supposedly a gold unit so not knowing the model or brand I can't say for sure. A 750 watt unit would be a bit better but then an RTX 3070 isn't as hungry as a RTX 3080.

Yours faithfully

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1 minute ago, Lord Nicoll said:

I'd be very worried about that PSU, being 600 watts, it's a bit low, that PC could hit 600 watts possibly under extreme loads, but it's supposedly a gold unit so not knowing the model or brand I can't say for sure. A 750 watt unit would be a bit better but then an RTX 3070 isn't as hungry as a RTX 3080.

Ah, thank you. My daughter is an 3D artist, she does a lot of Maya, Blender and whatnot and I guess some of those application could put it in such situation?

I will be replacing the PSU either way so thank you for recommending higher wattage, do you have a specific recommendation that work with the rest of the system?

many thanks.

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4 minutes ago, GrandExchange said:

Ah, thank you. My daughter is an 3D artist, she does a lot of Maya, Blender and whatnot and I guess some of those application could put it in such situation?

I will be replacing the PSU either way so thank you for recommending higher wattage, do you have a specific recommendation that work with the rest of the system?

many thanks.

They're all standard so look on the PSU teir page for a high end PC PSU and get whatever is on special offer in the 750 to 800 watt range. To be lear, 600 watts is probably enough stock, but if the system is overclocked that could easily be exceeded. 

Yours faithfully

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Cyberpower’s reputation comes from their poor customer service and overall general poor value for the product you get. Not saying you’re doomed, 9/10 people will be happy and never notice or have an issue with their system from there.

 

Use this as an opportunity to learn more about how systems are built and how and what could cause issues. People here are willing to help and it not to hard to put 20min-4hours learning about and solving an issue.

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44 minutes ago, GrandExchange said:

600 Watts - Standard 600Watts 80 Plus Gold high-efficient Power Supply

seems fine. 3070 does  not use more than 250w, and 10900kf under 150w at stock. So at stock your system consumes under 500w on full stress test.

45 minutes ago, GrandExchange said:

MasterLiquid Lite 120mm ARGB CPU Liquid Cooler with Dual Chamber Pump & Copper Cold Plate

Really bad. MasterLiquid lite is already one of the owrst aios, but that is only 120mm. 40$ aircooler will beat that.

 

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Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

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Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

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Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

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Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

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Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

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21 minutes ago, SavageNeo said:

seems fine. 3070 does  not use more than 250w, and 10900kf under 150w at stock. So at stock your system consumes under 500w on full stress test.

Really bad. MasterLiquid lite is already one of the owrst aios, but that is only 120mm. 40$ aircooler will beat that.

 

Ouch! I never heard of MasterLiquid before but it's like only few AIO they offers, I don't mind spending a bit more if they let me swap it out for something else, my daughter's old PC use a NZXT Kraken, perhaps I should try to look for something similar.

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24 minutes ago, GrandExchange said:

Ouch! I never heard of MasterLiquid before but it's like only few AIO they offers, I don't mind spending a bit more if they let me swap it out for something else, my daughter's old PC use a NZXT Kraken, perhaps I should try to look for something similar.

I mean good aircoolers tie with 240mm aios. Artic freezer II is currently the best performing aio on the market followed by EK aio.

QUOTE ME  FOR ANSWER.

 

Main PC:

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|Ryzen 7 3700x, OC to 4.2ghz @1.3V, 67C, or 4.4ghz @1.456V, 87C || Asus strix 5700 XT, +50 core, +50 memory, +50 power (not a great overclocker) || Asus Strix b550-A || G.skill trident Z Neo rgb 32gb 3600mhz cl16-19-19-19-39, oc to 3733mhz with the same timings || Cooler Master ml360 RGB AIO || Phanteks P500A Digital || Thermaltake ToughPower grand RGB750w 80+gold || Samsung 850 250gb and Adata SX 6000 Lite 500gb || Toshiba 5400rpm 1tb || Asus Rog Theta 7.1 || Asus Rog claymore || Asus Gladius 2 origin gaming mouse || Monitor 1 Asus 1080p 144hz || Monitor 2 AOC 1080p 75hz || 

Test Rig.

Spoiler

Ryzen 5 3400G || Gigabyte b450 S2H || Hyper X fury 2x4gb 2666mhz cl 16 ||Stock cooler || Antec NX100 || Silverstone essential 400w || Transgend SSD 220s 480gb ||

Just Sold

Spoiler

| i3 9100F || Msi Gaming X gtx 1050 TI || MSI Z390 A-Pro || Kingston 1x16gb 2400mhz cl17 || Stock cooler || Kolink Horizon RGB || Corsair CV 550w || Pny CS900 120gb ||

 

Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

Spoiler

 

Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

Spoiler

 

Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

Spoiler

 

Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

Spoiler

 

Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

Spoiler

 

Case Tier List. Work In Progress. Most Phanteks airflow series cases already done!

Ask me anything :)

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7 minutes ago, SavageNeo said:

I mean good aircoolers tie with 240mm aios. Artic freezer II is currently the best performing aio on the market followed by EK aio.

thank you very much, I'd note that down.

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