cooling Lapping CPU Worth It?

[Mq3]

Want to OC my Ryzen 5800x and instead of buying a $200 water cooler to replace my NH D15, I want to find another, less expensive way of improving cooling performance.

[Ravendarat]

Id say no, in reality OC a 5XXX series Ryzen chip is close to pointless, your efforts will be far better spent in memory tuning

[Apollo Refugio]

5 minutes ago, Mq3 said:

Want to OC my Ryzen 5800x and instead of buying a $200 water cooler to replace my NH D15, I want to find another, less expensive way of improving cooling performance.

I wouldn't lap it personally. Your cooling seems good enough. My friend has a 5800x with a NZXT X63 and his idles at 40 C, loads at 80 C.

[Mq3]

I have 32Gb 3600mhz CL16 RAM, how much an improvement could I get?

 

[Jurrunio]

Is voiding warranty worth it? @Ravendarat the gain is actually not insignificant if done right, but doing it needs skill. Preferably many old CPUs for practices

[Mq3]

2 minutes ago, Apollo Refugio said:

I wouldn't lap it personally. Your cooling seems good enough. My friend has a 5800x with a NZXT X63 and his idles at 40 C, loads at 80 C.

Yea at full load I get to like max around 75, but it also depends on the temp of my room, when its a little on the cold side, I've seen it max at 69 degrees, all core cinebench r23, on average it stays prob around low-mid 70s

[Mq3]

Is water cooling even that much better?

I don't think so since its usually much more expensive for the same or worse performance.

[Jurrunio]

1 minute ago, Mq3 said:

I have 32Gb 3600mhz CL16 RAM, how much an improvement could I get?

 

Depends on the exact kit. 4x8gb or Samsung B-die would be ideal, gain more than overclocking further with the help of lapping for sure

[Ravendarat]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

Is voiding warranty worth it? @Ravendarat the gain is actually not insignificant if done right, but doing it needs skill. Preferably many old CPUs for practices

You mean lapping? Im not saying its not worth lapping, im saying OCing 5th gen Ryzen isnt worth it. They are already so close to the edge that for every day use the gains seem not worth it. As for the lapping side of it, you might very well get some added benefits to temp, but if the silicone wont push far enough to take advantage than I dont think I could suggest it at the cost of voiding warranty. The gain doesnt justify the risk in my mind, but thats certainly just my opinion

[Jurrunio]

16 minutes ago, Ravendarat said:

You mean lapping? Im not saying its not worth lapping, im saying OCing 5th gen Ryzen isnt worth it. They are already so close to the edge that for every day use the gains seem not worth it. As for the lapping side of it, you might very well get some added benefits to temp, but if the silicone wont push far enough to take advantage than I dont think I could suggest it at the cost of voiding warranty. The gain doesnt justify the risk in my mind, but thats certainly just my opinion

It is a small gain that comes free so I wont say it's not worth it, but I dont know how far OP is willing to go. "Not willing to buy a new cooler" to "lapping the IHS" is a pretty big leap.

[freeagent]

I think a top end air cooler, and proper case flow can go a long way. I can run my 3600XT at stock or with all core oc at 4400 with no fan installed on my heatsink and all four case fans at 7v. I only ran it like that for a day, but it was good. I ran my 3770K at 4500 like that with the same setup. CLC is ok until permeation takes hold, or becomes loud. Its just a few hundred ML's in the rad, so its not like you have a lot of fluid to begin with. But if you have a CPU that can put out a couple of hundred watts, you will notice performance start to taper after a year or so if you run the system hard 12-16 hours a day.