Best cpu with integrated graphics

[dam.beaver]

For a budget build, i was thinking about getting an apu because i could shave off some money from not using a graphics card. And I did, but this cpu is damn 28nm, and i really want like 12nm. Also, I want a cooler with it too. Some sacrifices must be made, i know, so cooler is optional.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3400G 3.7 GHz Quad-Core Processor
Motherboard	MSI B450-A PRO MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard	$98.99 @ B&H
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	$83.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Kingston A400 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$34.35 @ Amazon
Case	Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case	$94.99 @ Best Buy
Power Supply	SeaSonic FOCUS 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$99.99 @ Amazon
Operating System	Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit	$108.78 @ Other World Computing
Wireless Network Adapter	TP-Link Archer TX50E PCIe x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac/ax Wi-Fi Adapter	$44.99 @ Amazon
Monitor	Asus VA229HR 21.5" 1920x1080 75 Hz Monitor	$92.44 @ Amazon
Keyboard	Corsair K55 RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard	$39.99 @ Amazon
Mouse	Logitech G502 HERO Wired Optical Mouse	$39.99 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$738.50
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-01-10 17:00 EST-0500

 

Edited January 10, 2021 by direwolf500
New parts

[Fasauceome]

9 minutes ago, direwolf500 said:

but this cpu is damn 28nm, and i really want like 12nm

well, there's a bit more to it than that. What you want is Ryzen for sure, if this is a gaming PC.

 

9 minutes ago, direwolf500 said:

Also, I want a cooler with it too. Some sacrifices must be made, i know, so cooler is optional.

buying used would be a concern for that, but buying new, every CPU will have an included cooler.

 

A Ryzen 3 2200G would be the minimum, with a Ryzen 5 3400G being the most powerful APU you could get. There are also the 4th gen Ryzen APUs but they're not super easy to find since there aren't any retail listings, it's only on the used market.

 

edit:

if that build above is a new parts list you're trying to make, consider this instead:

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PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 3 3200G 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor	$179.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard	ASRock B450M/AC Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$93.98 @ Newegg
Memory	ADATA XPG Z1 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 CL16 Memory	$64.98 @ Amazon
Storage	TCSunBow X3 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$83.99 @ Amazon
Case	Deepcool MATREXX 30 MicroATX Mini Tower Case	$29.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply	EVGA GD (2019) 500 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply	$69.98 @ Amazon
Monitor	Asus VA229HR 21.5" 1920x1080 75 Hz Monitor	$92.44 @ Amazon
Keyboard	Corsair K55 RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard	$39.99 @ Amazon
Mouse	Logitech G502 HERO Wired Optical Mouse	$39.99 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$695.33
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-01-10 16:05 EST-0500

 

 

[Electronics Wizardy]

That a8 cpu is gonna suck, its really old now, not using zen, and $180 is way to much for that chip

 

Also that are some weird choises there. Id save money on the case, that wifi card seems way to much, a ax200 based chip should be around $30-40 bucks and better than that card.

 

Id get one larger ssd, here.

 

For that budget, get a seprate cpu + gpu, you can easily do that in a 800 dollar build, and it will be much faster.

[dam.beaver]

3 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

That a8 cpu is gonna suck, its really old now, not using zen, and $180 is way to much for that chip

I'm not really looking for zen 2, and I chose that case because my mom said she wanted a better one than a 4000D, which is what i had in the list.

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Id get one larger ssd, here.

I don't need much storage, what i have should suit me for my workload.

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For that budget, get a seprate cpu + gpu, you can easily do that in a 800 dollar build, and it will be much faster.

It seems to me though that i can't ge the other features that i want with a seperate cpu and gpu.

[Electronics Wizardy]

1 minute ago, direwolf500 said:

'm not really looking for zen 2, and I chose that case because my mom said she wanted a better one than a 4000D, which is what i had in the list.

might as well get a zen+ cpu, cheaper and faster, better in all ways

 

For that budget, your really giving up a lot of computer power for the case, id really try to get a 50-60 dollar case so you can have a much faster system

 

1 minute ago, direwolf500 said:

don't need much storage, what i have should suit me for my workload.

So why have the 250+500gb setup? The 1tb would be cheaper, simpler and give you more space.

 

2 minutes ago, direwolf500 said:

 

It seems to me though that i can't ge the other features that i want with a seperate cpu and gpu.

What other features do you want? What are you using this build for?

[dam.beaver]

8 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

well, there's a bit more to it than that. What you want is Ryzen for sure, if this is a gaming PC.

Almost my whole workload doesn't need Ryzen, really just some old apu.

[dam.beaver]

1 minute ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

What other features do you want? What are you using this build for?

Roblox, watching YouTube, and some productivity.

 

I can't think of an example off the top of my head, I just know that I usually can't find what i want in the price range i want.

[Electronics Wizardy]

1 minute ago, direwolf500 said:

Roblox, watching YouTube, and some productivity.

 

I can't think of an example off the top of my head, I just know that I usually can't find what i want in the price range i want.

so get something like a i3 10100 then, Should be enough gpu for roblox, much faster cpu, and cheaper.

 

4 minutes ago, direwolf500 said:

Almost my whole workload doesn't need Ryzen, really just some old apu.

that a8 makes no sens, its way to pricey at $180, and very slow for modern standards. don't get it.

[dam.beaver]

2 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

so get something like a i3 10100 then, Should be enough gpu for roblox, much faster cpu, and cheaper.

I guess I might, but the reason I didn't want to go with Intel is because of their upgradability. What about a 3400G?

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, direwolf500 said:

I guess I might, but the reason I didn't want to go with Intel is because of their upgradability. What about a 3400G?

You don't really know about future parts, but am4 looks to be end of the line, but lga 1200 probably will work with rocket lake. So intel seems a bit better now, but it also really depends on the board you get. You can't run zen 2 or zen 3 on that a320 board.

 

Id get a 10100 over a 3400g as its a bit faster of a cpu and cheaper. For the savings you can buy a gpu if you need more gpu power. 

[mariushm]

I'd say get a RX 570 or a RX 580 for 100-130$ used and keep this cpu for now.

 

You'll get better performance in games compared to just using integrated graphics - rather than playing at 720p med or 1080p low at best with integrated graphics you can play 1080p med-high in most games with a rx570/rx580

 

New processors are now are both hard to get and expensive.

 

suck it up and later when you have more money (let's say 6 months from now), sell the cpu AND motherboard together as advertised as  office pc / parents pc / programming only pc  and put some difference and get a 5600 and a b550 motherboard.