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On 1/9/2021 at 3:20 PM, ShrimpBrime said:

You asked me to write a book. 

 

 

 

 

 

So, a little update I guess. I managed to reset the memory and cores before a crash and now with a oc of 3.8 cpu 1550mhz gpu and 1600mhz ram (effectively 3200mhz) it worked fin for the couple hours I played arma 3. Thanks for the help bro

1 minute ago, ShrimpBrime said:

The cores are still disabled? You cannot reenable them in bios or ryzen master? 

like I said, it crashed before I could and haven't tried since, and the bios are very bare bones if I can recall, the reason it crashes with bsod is memory_management I believe because it is oced too high, ik I was pushing it close before, I had set it higher before and resulted in cmos code(I think that's what it's called) 3 beeps anyway, which lowering the clock fixed, I later uped the clock slightly, so I'm guessing it's too high, making ryzen master crash, but I could lower it with msi after burner if ryzen master is a no go

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1 minute ago, Clarkeboyzinc said:

like I said, it crashed before I could and haven't tried since, and the bios are very bare bones if I can recall, the reason it crashes with bsod is memory_management I believe because it is oced too high, ik I was pushing it close before, I had set it higher before and resulted in cmos code(I think that's what it's called) 3 beeps anyway, which lowering the clock fixed, I later uped the clock slightly, so I'm guessing it's too high, making ryzen master crash, but I could lower it with msi after burner if ryzen master is a no go

I don't care about the overclock at this point. lol.

 

So, I would do a couple things to ease mind first. 

 

1st if Ryzen master opens, at the top right, click defaults man.

2nd, shut the rig down and clear cmos.

3rd, post and be sure all your cores are there.

 

If not, you have bricked the bios. You now gave parents a dual core rig lol. A new cpu will likely result in the same core count if installed. lol.

 

Welcome to the OC club kid. 

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1 minute ago, ShrimpBrime said:

I don't care about the overclock at this point. lol.

 

So, I would do a couple things to ease mind first. 

 

1st if Ryzen master opens, at the top right, click defaults man.

2nd, shut the rig down and clear cmos.

3rd, post and be sure all your cores are there.

 

If not, you have bricked the bios. You now gave parents a dual core rig lol. A new cpu will likely result in the same core count if installed. lol.

 

Welcome to the OC club kid. 

how do u clear cmos, and yh, I will definitely be ocing in the future, up until I f***ed it I had been having more fun then playing most games lately, just never touching the core count ever again, but don't care abt it anymore, just want it normal, so should I first lower memory speed with msi after burner, because ryzen master looks like it only touches that if I enable it manually, so when it does mess up, the core clcoks and gpu clocks are set to normal, but the memory isn't touch from what I remember beforee when it's crashed, but memory is not touched, so to recap, first should I lower memory clcok to stock speed and see if that fixes things 

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1 minute ago, Clarkeboyzinc said:

how do u clear cmos, and yh, I will definitely be ocing in the future, up until I f***ed it I had been having more fun then playing most games lately, just never touching the core count ever again, but don't care abt it anymore, just want it normal, so should I first lower memory speed with msi after burner, because ryzen master looks like it only touches that if I enable it manually, so when it does mess up, the core clcoks and gpu clocks are set to normal, but the memory isn't touch from what I remember beforee when it's crashed, but memory is not touched, so to recap, first should I lower memory clcok to stock speed and see if that fixes things 

To clear cmos.

Turn of PSU switch.

Open the case.

Find the coin battery and remove it.

Hit the power button once.

Wait 10 good minutes.

Put the coin battery back in.

Turn on PSU via switch.

Post windows stock. Don't mess with nothin'.

 

I will share a quick story.

My B450-I no longer has an option to turn on and off cores in the bios after this similar occurance happened to me.

The only known fix I could find personally was to re-install windows and Ryzen Master new with updated chipset drivers.

Then I got all my cores back, but the bios option even after attempting additional flashes, still remains missing from my very well packed ROG bios.

The end.

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9 minutes ago, ShrimpBrime said:

To clear cmos.

Turn of PSU switch.

Open the case.

Find the coin battery and remove it.

Hit the power button once.

Wait 10 good minutes.

Put the coin battery back in.

Turn on PSU via switch.

Post windows stock. Don't mess with nothin'.

 

I will share a quick story.

My B450-I no longer has an option to turn on and off cores in the bios after this similar occurance happened to me.

The only known fix I could find personally was to re-install windows and Ryzen Master new with updated chipset drivers.

Then I got all my cores back, but the bios option even after attempting additional flashes, still remains missing from my very well packed ROG bios.

The end.

I think I may have to leave it how it is, as opening up the pc is gonna be to shady for my parents to see, so 2 core rig until they find out, then just lie if they do, but making it reasonable to try these things. U've been a great help, and in the future if I ever have good ocing results, like that would happen lol, I hope I could share with u, but yh, just gonna stick to ps4 gaming for now, one question tho, to end it off, could I place the cpu in a different mobo and renable the cores in that system? And thx for all the help, I guess this is just a good ocing learning expreince, and that I won't be ocing on low end systems like this ever again to this extent. But yh, the question abt using a different mobo

 

Edit: Like to add, I now can relate with the memes abt ocing the old family pc now, feels painful

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5 minutes ago, Clarkeboyzinc said:

I think I may have to leave it how it is, as opening up the pc is gonna be to shady for my parents to see, so 2 core rig until they find out, then just lie if they do, but making it reasonable to try these things. U've been a great help, and in the future if I ever have good ocing results, like that would happen lol, I hope I could share with u, but yh, just gonna stick to ps4 gaming for now, one question tho, to end it off, could I place the cpu in a different mobo and renable the cores in that system? And thx for all the help, I guess this is just a good ocing learning expreince, and that I won't be ocing on low end systems like this ever again to this extent. But yh, the question abt using a different mobo

 

Another thing you can try is be sure windows isn't set to two cores.

 

In task manager

go to tab boot.

click advanced options.

uncheck number of processors IF IS checked.

IF NOT checked, tick the box and set desired core count and see if they come back.

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, ShrimpBrime said:

 

Another thing you can try is be sure windows isn't set to two cores.

 

In task manager

go to tab boot.

click advanced options.

uncheck number of processors IF IS checked.

IF NOT checked, tick the box and set desired core count and see if they come back.

 

 

 

So if it's checked, uncheck it, and if it's unchecked, check it to 4 cores?

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1 minute ago, Clarkeboyzinc said:

So if it's checked, uncheck it, and if it's unchecked, check it to 4 cores?

Correct. 

 

When unchecked, it will run whatever is set in bios.

This is how you'll know the issue went to bios. 

 

Why this happened to me? Oh that's right, 2700X and trying to reach past 4.5ghz and 4000mhz memory frequency. One of the two or both. 

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42 minutes ago, ShrimpBrime said:

The cores are still disabled? You cannot reenable them in bios or ryzen master? 

Haven't tried yet, can't rn, so it isn't rlly the solution, just miss clciked and can't set it bac for some reason, but fr tho, can u be my overclcoking guru, rlly wished I listened to someone before I did this, and ik it doesn't change clcok speed in bios as cinnebench believed that when at 3.8 it was at 3.5, so yh, but like, can u plz talk abt ur expreinces so I don't fuck up later in life with ocing, as it's obvious, I lack basic intelligence

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1 minute ago, Clarkeboyzinc said:

Haven't tried yet, can't rn, so it isn't rlly the solution, just miss clciked and can't set it bac for some reason, but fr tho, can u be my overclcoking guru, rlly wished I listened to someone before I did this, and ik it doesn't change clcok speed in bios as cinnebench believed that when at 3.8 it was at 3.5, so yh, but like, can u plz talk abt ur expreinces so I don't fuck up later in life with ocing, as it's obvious, I lack basic intelligence

Negative. You only lack practice and experience.

 

I don't know ALL of everything. But have enough to get us by :)

 

What experience would you like me to share? 

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6 minutes ago, ShrimpBrime said:

Negative. You only lack practice and experience.

 

I don't know ALL of everything. But have enough to get us by :)

 

What experience would you like me to share? 

idk, anything u think is helpful of a beginner, what cpus, and anything else rlly, have u oced and whats gone wrong, what's been a success

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10 hours ago, Clarkeboyzinc said:

I can't open it is y, idk if it is or isn't removing the oc, and idk if 2 cores are diabled

 

On that PC with locked BIOS, after computer restart, ryzen master doesn't do anything until you open it and manually re-apply settings. 

 

So, if you had two cores disabled, or OC'd to 10,000 Ghz, and set voltage to 30, and then got blue screen, upon restart everything is back to stock until ryzen master is re-opened AND settings are re-applied. 

 

Point being, you have nothing to worry about, after restart everything is back to normal. If you want to start over with safe OC, I would uninstall the program and...start over. 

 

best of luck. Also just a word of wisdom, your spelling and grammar make your posts very hard to read. People might be more willing to help if they see someone who cares enough to spell words properly. Maybe it's just me but your posts sort of give the vibe of someone who wants/expects to be spoon-fed without having to put forth any real effort. 

 

Overclocking and modifying computer hardware in general is a complex thing and requires effort, you will get out of it what you put into it. 

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11 hours ago, jwwagner25 said:

On that PC with locked BIOS, after computer restart, ryzen master doesn't do anything until you open it and manually re-apply settings. 

 

So, if you had two cores disabled, or OC'd to 10,000 Ghz, and set voltage to 30, and then got blue screen, upon restart everything is back to stock until ryzen master is re-opened AND settings are re-applied. 

 

Point being, you have nothing to worry about, after restart everything is back to normal. If you want to start over with safe OC, I would uninstall the program and...start over. 

 

best of luck. Also just a word of wisdom, your spelling and grammar make your posts very hard to read. People might be more willing to help if they see someone who cares enough to spell words properly. Maybe it's just me but your posts sort of give the vibe of someone who wants/expects to be spoon-fed without having to put forth any real effort. 

 

Overclocking and modifying computer hardware in general is a complex thing and requires effort, you will get out of it what you put into it. 

Ok, everything you have said is correct, apart from the cores, when ryzen master crashes, from what I've seen is that it resets the cpu and gpu oc, but does not touch the memory or core count, and so I will attempt what you have said, but I believe the memory is the reason for the blue screen, as the code it says is memory_management, so I will try to tune it down to stock 2666mhz speed using msi afterburner, I have booted in safe mode with zero crashes and in task manager it stated a frequency of 3.49 so the oc was gone, but the memory and core count was the same, so I will attempt to lower memory speed, then attempt to use ryzen master. 

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On 1/9/2021 at 3:20 PM, ShrimpBrime said:

You asked me to write a book. 

 

 

 

 

 

So, a little update I guess. I managed to reset the memory and cores before a crash and now with a oc of 3.8 cpu 1550mhz gpu and 1600mhz ram (effectively 3200mhz) it worked fin for the couple hours I played arma 3. Thanks for the help bro

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On 1/9/2021 at 12:32 AM, Clarkeboyzinc said:

Wow, I guess then u should tell me the highs and lows of your ocing adventures

OK. 

 

I'm a hobbyist. An enthusiast. So really I always have fun with overclocking. And benchmarking. 

Got in with a great bunch of guys that I've been with for at least 13 years now. On a competitive benchmarking team.

As much as I teach I learn. Honest truth. Cause there's just so much out there from past to present. 

 

High points seem to be with every cpu. I'm fortunate to have the ability to obtain liquid nitrogen and Dry Ice.

One of my favorite parts of this hobby is Cpu and Gpu modified cooling. Be it air, water, tec, or other cooling types.

Accomplishments to be first place with everything is not ever my goal. Only to get what I have to it's max possible. 

 

So 90% of my overclocking is solely for competitive benchmarking purposes only. Stability = none. lol.

That's really pretty much my thrill. Making hardware do stuff it's not supposed to do. In a nut shell.

 

 

 

 

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20 hours ago, ShrimpBrime said:

OK. 

 

I'm a hobbyist. An enthusiast. So really I always have fun with overclocking. And benchmarking. 

Got in with a great bunch of guys that I've been with for at least 13 years now. On a competitive benchmarking team.

As much as I teach I learn. Honest truth. Cause there's just so much out there from past to present. 

 

High points seem to be with every cpu. I'm fortunate to have the ability to obtain liquid nitrogen and Dry Ice.

One of my favorite parts of this hobby is Cpu and Gpu modified cooling. Be it air, water, tec, or other cooling types.

Accomplishments to be first place with everything is not ever my goal. Only to get what I have to it's max possible. 

 

So 90% of my overclocking is solely for competitive benchmarking purposes only. Stability = none. lol.

That's really pretty much my thrill. Making hardware do stuff it's not supposed to do. In a nut shell.

 

 

 

 

Yeah, I saw that you were part of I think warp 9 systems, and yeah, I guess all you want is it to be stable enough to run a benchmark, anyway, I managed to reset the overclocks and the system works completely fine and is stable, so thanks for all the my guy.

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51 minutes ago, Clarkeboyzinc said:

Yeah, I saw that you were part of I think warp 9 systems, and yeah, I guess all you want is it to be stable enough to run a benchmark, anyway, I managed to reset the overclocks and the system works completely fine and is stable, so thanks for all the my guy.

Anytime!!

I do my daily stable for folding at home and gaming. HTPC is usually stock along with the office PC. Those need to be stable, no OC required with today's hardware IMO. 

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