B550 Aorus Pro won't let me enable XMP and/or OC the memory differently.

[TwisteddJoker]

Hi! I made a little bit different post about my new PC build, but it went a little bit off tracks, and the issue now isn't precisely what it was when I was creating that thread.
So here I am - starting fresh (thanks for advice from @CommanderAlexto do so).

The PC specs are:

MOBO: B550 Aorus Pro rev. 1.0 (BIOS version F4)
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600
Cooler: Scythe Fuma 2
Thermal paste: Arctic MX-4
RAM: Crucial Ballistix 3600MHz CL16 16GB
GPU: RX460 (It was supposed to be nVidia 3000 or AMD 6000, for now I'm using this old fella)
PSU: Seasonic Focus GX-750
Storage: Samsung 970 EVO NVMe 500GB (operating system)
Case: Lian Li Lancool II Mesh Performance

As you can see, I've got memory capable of 3600MHz and CL16. It is currently at only 2667MHz.
I can't turn on XMP (profile 1, there are no other options) - because when I do the PC won't boot. The DEBUG LEDs show ,,DRAM" / the DRAM LED is on.
The speaker doesn't make any noises then.

I've tried to manually overclock it, firstly with ,,EasyTune" from Giagbyte (windows App) - I successfully managed to get it to boot at 3200MHz, but then when I fiddled with it a little bit more I was stuck at 2667MHz again. Now I can't make it even go to 3200MHz and boot.

I tried to manually OC it with ,,DRAM CALCULATOR" help - I wanted to just put the exact copy into my BIOS from that program.

Nope. Isn't working either.

So... Is there someone who could tell me what to put in every single subpage / rubric / column in my BIOS in order for my RAM to get into 3600MHz CL16, and my system to boot?

As little tries as possible - my CLR_CMOS pins on MOBO seem not to work either - I have to remove the MOBO battery every time I mess it up, and it isn't booting.

Thanks!



 

[Jurrunio]

Did you update the chipset driver and BIOS?

 

33 minutes ago, TwisteddJoker said:

my CLR_CMOS pins on MOBO seem not to work either

how did you short the pins?

[TwisteddJoker]

22 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Did you update the chipset driver and BIOS?

 

how did you short the pins?

Turned off the PC. turned off the PSU, opened the case, touched two pins at the same time with a screwdriver, and holded it for about 30 seconds.
BIOS is in version ,,F4" - should I go higher if I don't have AMD 5000 series CPU?
Yes, the chipset is updated.

[Jurrunio]

23 minutes ago, TwisteddJoker said:

touched two pins at the same time with a screwdriver, and holded it for about 30 seconds.

need to twist it with some force on my board for some reason

 

23 minutes ago, TwisteddJoker said:

BIOS is in version ,,F4" - should I go higher if I don't have AMD 5000 series CPU?

Yes, definitely.

[TwisteddJoker]

51 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

need to twist it with some force on my board for some reason

 

Yes, definitely.

Aaaaaand... You think that updating the BIOS to F10 will solve all my problems? (F11n is not stable for some guys).

[Jurrunio]

22 minutes ago, TwisteddJoker said:

Aaaaaand... You think that updating the BIOS to F10 will solve all my problems? (F11n is not stable for some guys).

Cant say for sure but BIOS updates arent just there to add features, it also contains bug fixes and optimizations.

[TwisteddJoker]

32 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Cant say for sure but BIOS updates arent just there to add features, it also contains bug fixes and optimizations.

Ok, I'll try it (propably tomorrow). After the update you suggest to just turn on the XMP profile? That's how it should work, right?

[Jurrunio]

9 minutes ago, TwisteddJoker said:

Ok, I'll try it (propably tomorrow). After the update you suggest to just turn on the XMP profile? That's how it should work, right?

yes

[TwisteddJoker]

@Jurruniothank you very much. I just updated my BIOS to F10. Then I enetered the BIOS, and turned on XMP Profile. Clicked F10 (save & exit) and the system successfully restarted. Now it shows 3600MHz.

The only problem is that Windows now playing system signal every 30 seconds or so. The sound Windows 10 makes when new device is connected via USB etc...


UPDATE - system just crashed. It's crashing every few minutes I tried to put Level 3 in XMP High frequency support. Still crashing. Tried to up the voltage on DRAM to 1.4V - still crashing.

I just undid all the changes - still on 2667MHz

[-rascal-]

5 hours ago, TwisteddJoker said:

@Jurruniothank you very much. I just updated my BIOS to F10. Then I enetered the BIOS, and turned on XMP Profile. Clicked F10 (save & exit) and the system successfully restarted. Now it shows 3600MHz.

The only problem is that Windows now playing system signal every 30 seconds or so. The sound Windows 10 makes when new device is connected via USB etc...


UPDATE - system just crashed. It's crashing every few minutes I tried to put Level 3 in XMP High frequency support. Still crashing. Tried to up the voltage on DRAM to 1.4V - still crashing.

I just undid all the changes - still on 2667MHz

 

What is your SOC voltage with XMP enabled?

Bump it up to 1.10V or 1.12V.

 

Also try this, if you haven't already...

• Enable XMP Profile 1 (so it sets the timings + DRAM voltage for you)
• Manually select the DRAM Frequency to DDR4-3400 or DDR4-3200 (XMP profile timings, but dropping the DRAM frequency by 1 or 2 ratios)
• Save and exit

 

[Salt Shaker]

D-Ram voltage 1.35V should be enough.

 

It seems that some USB can cause issues. Windows 10 related and USB hub related but should be a different issue. XMP issues =/= USB issues.

Enter XPM profile manually could works. Make sure you have drivers & BIOS up to date.

 

You can have a look at that :

 

 

[TitanRTX48GB]

Same mobo, but different memory. Enable the XMP profile 1 and bump a dram voltage to 1.35V, buddy. I had a similar problem. My G.Skill Sniper X 3600CL19 32 gigs kit ran on 3600 with 1.2V (wut?) and black screen appeared on next restart. I had to remove a CMOS battery.

[TwisteddJoker]

21 hours ago, -rascal- said:

 

What is your SOC voltage with XMP enabled?

Bump it up to 1.10V or 1.12V.

 

Also try this, if you haven't already...

• Enable XMP Profile 1 (so it sets the timings + DRAM voltage for you)
• Manually select the DRAM Frequency to DDR4-3400 or DDR4-3200 (XMP profile timings, but dropping the DRAM frequency by 1 or 2 ratios)
• Save and exit

 

I bumped it to 1.1V - crashed after few minutes.

Now every time I change something I'm using Prime95 test to check if it's stable or not. Before - on idle it could work for about 5 minutes. For testing purposes it's more convenient/faster

I'd prefer it to run ,,fully" at 3600MHz not 3400 or 3200... That's why I bought those sticks.
 

 

8 hours ago, Salt Shaker said:

D-Ram voltage 1.35V should be enough.

 

It seems that some USB can cause issues. Windows 10 related and USB hub related but should be a different issue. XMP issues =/= USB issues.

Enter XPM profile manually could works. Make sure you have drivers & BIOS up to date.

 

You can have a look at that :

 

 

I did what's shown on this video. Didn't help...

 

 

6 hours ago, TitanRTX48GB said:

Same mobo, but different memory. Enable the XMP profile 1 and bump a dram voltage to 1.35V, buddy. I had a similar problem. My G.Skill Sniper X 3600CL19 32 gigs kit ran on 3600 with 1.2V (wut?) and black screen appeared on next restart. I had to remove a CMOS battery.

You mean - enable XMP Profile, and in addition to that manually set DRAM Voltage to 1.35V? If that's the case - it's not working either - I've tried it. Even with 1.38V...

[Salt Shaker]

Dammit.

Some other people have issue with ram too, on x570 and B550 but only Ryzen 5000 so far. They can only use 3200 atm, and it happens on MSI, Gigabyte, asus, etc..

 

In every cases, it works with 3200. And every cases, it works with older gen ryzen.

 

It did not work even if you enter every timing manually, without touching XMP at all ?

[TwisteddJoker]

2 hours ago, Salt Shaker said:

Dammit.

Some other people have issue with ram too, on x570 and B550 but only Ryzen 5000 so far. They can only use 3200 atm, and it happens on MSI, Gigabyte, asus, etc..

 

In every cases, it works with 3200. And every cases, it works with older gen ryzen.

 

It did not work even if you enter every timing manually, without touching XMP at all ?

I'm not that advanced nor comfortable messing around with that I've never done it...

[-rascal-]

3 hours ago, TwisteddJoker said:

I bumped it to 1.1V - crashed after few minutes.

Now every time I change something I'm using Prime95 test to check if it's stable or not. Before - on idle it could work for about 5 minutes. For testing purposes it's more convenient/faster

I'd prefer it to run ,,fully" at 3600MHz not 3400 or 3200... That's why I bought those sticks.
 

 

Well...if your motherboard and/or CPU cannot handle DDR4-3600 (let is be weak IMC, poor motherboard trace-routing, or poor BIOS optimization).

That is not something you can control...to an extent.

If the Integrated Memory Controller (IMC) or the CPU Silicon straight up cannot run it that such high frequency, what can you do?

Setting it to DDR4-3200 or DDR4-3400 is never permanent, it's just single setting in the BIOS, but IT IS ways to troubleshoot the problem.

 

If what @Salt Shaker is true, then BIOS firmware on B550 boards just needs to be refined a bit more.

That said, Ryzen 5000-series CPUs have a even more robust IMC than Ryzen 3000-series.

 

AMD ONLY guarantees you up to DDR4-3200; anything beyond that involves overclocking the IMC.

As with overclocking ANYTHING, "your mileage may vary" 

 

[TwisteddJoker]

48 minutes ago, -rascal- said:

 

Well...if your motherboard and/or CPU cannot handle DDR4-3600 (let is be weak IMC, poor motherboard trace-routing, or poor BIOS optimization).

That is not something you can control...to an extent.

If the Integrated Memory Controller (IMC) or the CPU Silicon straight up cannot run it that such high frequency, what can you do?

Setting it to DDR4-3200 or DDR4-3400 is never permanent, it's just single setting in the BIOS, but IT IS ways to troubleshoot the problem.

 

If what @Salt Shaker is true, then BIOS firmware on B550 boards just needs to be refined a bit more.

That said, Ryzen 5000-series CPUs have a even more robust IMC than Ryzen 3000-series.

 

AMD ONLY guarantees you up to DDR4-3200; anything beyond that involves overclocking the IMC.

As with overclocking ANYTHING, "your mileage may vary" 

 

Is this ,,good enough" for 3200MHz?
 

I can make it go to this exact setting by using "EasyTune" from Gigabyte. These are older screenshots, from few days back (with BIOS ver. F4). Are the timings etc. acceptable?

How much performance am I losing with memory set up to that "speed" compared to 3600MHz CL16?
Mind you I'm not playing the newest titles etc.


Or should I just go to BIOS and put "multiply by 32x" and add some voltage to the DRAM and SOC? Is it possible? Or do I have to mess up with timings manually as well?

[-rascal-]

21 minutes ago, TwisteddJoker said:

Is this ,,good enough" for 3200MHz?
 

I can make it go to this exact setting by using "EasyTune" from Gigabyte. These are older screenshots, from few days back (with BIOS ver. F4). Are the timings etc. acceptable?

How much performance am I losing with memory set up to that "speed" compared to 3600MHz CL16?
Mind you I'm not playing the newest titles etc.


Or should I just go to BIOS and put "multiply by 32x" and add some voltage to the DRAM and SOC? Is it possible? Or do I have to mess up with timings manually as well?

 

Are those 'Auto' timings?

Wow...those timings are REALLY dialed back.

CL24 is really, really high latency.

 

If you leave XMP disabled, and just ONLY adjust the System Memory Multiplier, the motherboard has to guess and try it's own timings.

I many situations, it will end up using REALLY loose timings.

 

Are you not able to just enable XMP / A-XMP, and then manually set the DRAM frequency to DDR4-3200?

1. Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.) -- Profile 1
2. System Memory Multiple -- 32.00

 

Enabling the XMP should set the DRAM voltage for you, but you can always manually set it 1.35V just in case.

Some boards will automatically set the SOC Voltage to 1.10V (apparently), while other board's won't.

 

[TwisteddJoker]

15 hours ago, -rascal- said:

 

Are those 'Auto' timings?

Wow...those timings are REALLY dialed back.

CL24 is really, really high latency.

 

If you leave XMP disabled, and just ONLY adjust the System Memory Multiplier, the motherboard has to guess and try it's own timings.

I many situations, it will end up using REALLY loose timings.

 

Are you not able to just enable XMP / A-XMP, and then manually set the DRAM frequency to DDR4-3200?

1. Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.) -- Profile 1
2. System Memory Multiple -- 32.00

 

Enabling the XMP should set the DRAM voltage for you, but you can always manually set it 1.35V just in case.

Some boards will automatically set the SOC Voltage to 1.10V (apparently), while other board's won't.

 

I did what you said, but in two steps, or in different words - gradually.

First - I've set the Memory multiply to 32.00, as well as the SOC to 1.1V and DRAM Voltage to 1.35V (after entering the BIOS again the "real" voltage was 1.38V shown on the right).

Then, after succesfully entering the windows 10 system I checked the timings, and ran stress test for memory (Prime95).
It ran flawlessly so I restarted the PC (not with the case button, casually with Windows 10 option to restart, next to shut down etc. just to be clear)

I entered the BIOS for the second time.
I changed "XMP Profile" from Disabled to "Profile 1".

Windows did start flawlessly.
Current timings (CL16 !!!):

I started the stress test in Prime95 and... Nothing happened. It didn't crash. It still hasn't, and it was about 15 minutes since starting Windows!
So I guess it's a success!
I will run MemTest86 later today or later this week to be sure that it's stable.
@-rascal-Huge thank you! I will update this post if (hope not) something goes wrong, but for now everything seems to be just perfect!
Must be nice to have all this knowledge as an engineer!
Once again, thank you. Where should I send some beer or something?

Unfortunately it's still "only" 3200Mhz not full 3600MHz but I guess it's better that way, than CL24, right?

I still don't know why it's not 3600 - the XMP profile says "3600MHz"

Here's a screen when I did successfully boot into 3600MHz(for not too long, it crashed), maybe you'll be able to tell what's wrong or something?

But it crashed on those settings (I manually set memory multiplier to 36.00). I tried adding voltage (1.4V instead of 1.35V), but still no luck there. 


I feel though like I'm kind of chasing rabbits now. Will I notice the difference between 3200MHz CL16 vs 3600MHz CL16?
I mean - I'm using RX460 2GB for crying out loud
Yes, sure - I'd prefer a 3600MHz CL16 instead of 3200MHz CL16 but is all this troubleshooting worth it?

Also - I'm planning to upgrae to Ryzen 9 5900X in 2021-2022 (the same with GPU, I'd like to buy Nvidia 3080 or Radeon 6800XT).

Will that processor "enable me" to use 3600MHz? I was thinking about going to 32GB too.
 

[-rascal-]

@TwisteddJoker Hey! That's some good news, at least the system is booting up and running okay with DDR4-3200 for now.

Doing that you did gradually / multiple steps is fine.

 

Depends on the which Prime95 workload / stress you pick, some of them loads the Memory more, while other work loads focus on the CPUs FPU, etc.

MemTest86 would be good too, you'd want to run it for a few hours, though.

 

If DDR4-3200 is working now with the advertised XMP timings, next step would be to bring it up to DDR4-3400, and try that.

DDR4-3400 (Memory Multiplier 34.00) with XMP timings and voltage.

 

At this stage I'm suspecting the particular Ryzen 3600 you have doesn't want to play nice with DDR4-3600 memory.

Buuut, it could be that the B550 board just needs more firmware (e.g. BIOS) optimizations.

 

To be honest if DDR4-3600 CL16 doesn't work, but if DDR4-3200 and / or DDR4-3400 works, do the next best thing.

Start lowering / tightening those memory timings... see if you can get CL14 or CL15.

 

'Tech Jesus' from Gamers' Nexus did some initial memory testing with their Ryzen 5000-series CPU, but it would apply to Ryzen 3000-series too.

Their "Standardized" DDR4-3200 CL14 kit actually performed better than DDR4-3600 CL16, and DDR4-3800 CL18.

(FYI they later clarified it was not the number of sticks that gave additional +10%, but because of single-rank / dual-rank DRAM configuration)

 

 

I wouldn't be to concerned about trying to get DDR4-3600 CL16 working.

Even if you can get DDR4-3200 or DDR4-3400, and lowering the timings as a bonus, can be just as good.

Depending on certain games, and how they work with latency and bandwidth, DDR4-3600 might pull slightly ahead...but not by night-and-day difference.

 

Regards to "enable me" to run at DDR4-3600, if the problem lies in the Ryzen 3600 that you got, and the so called poor "silicon lottery" chance, you might have better luck with the next CPU you swap in. Plus, AMD did state the Integrated Memory Controller (IMC) is even more robust than Ryzen 3000-series. They were touting "up to" DDR4-40000 / DDR4-3800, where Ryzen 3000-series was "up to" DDR4-3600 / DDR4-3733.

 

As for the 32GB part, even your current Ryzen 3600 should have no issues doing that.

Keep in mind, more DIMM modules (e.g. more slots used up) also puts more stress / load on the IMC.

 

Let's say you eventually DID get DDR4-3600 working with a 16GB (2 X 8GB) set-up on your Ryzen 3600.

2 years later you add another 16GB, for a total of 32GB (4 X 8GB).

You *might* find out that you can't run DDR4-3600 stable with all 4 sticks anymore, and might need to drop it down to DDR4-3400, or something.

 

That was actually my scenario.

I was able to overclock my 16GB (2 X 8GB) DDR4-3000 CL14  to DDR4-3600 CL15.

Once I added another matching kit in (e.g. also DDR4-3000 CL14), the DDR4-3600 overclock was no longer 100% stable.

Games would randomly BSoD,  BIOS will revert to default settings when waking up / powering on the system.

So far, DDR4-3400 CL15 is working.

I don't need the DDR4-3600 speed....but doesn't hurt to tout some 3DMark / Memory benchmark fame 

 

(Actually, I might be too aggressive on the memory timings, since I'm manually dialing in all (~80%) of the primary / secondary / tertiary timings, I'll poke at it during the Christmas / winter holiday)

 

If you want to get into the nitty gritty of DDR4 RAM overclocking.... 

https://github.com/integralfx/MemTestHelper/blob/master/DDR4 OC Guide.md

[TwisteddJoker]

12 hours ago, -rascal- said:

@TwisteddJoker Hey! That's some good news, at least the system is booting up and running okay with DDR4-3200 for now.

Doing that you did gradually / multiple steps is fine.

 

Depends on the which Prime95 workload / stress you pick, some of them loads the Memory more, while other work loads focus on the CPUs FPU, etc.

MemTest86 would be good too, you'd want to run it for a few hours, though.

 

If DDR4-3200 is working now with the advertised XMP timings, next step would be to bring it up to DDR4-3400, and try that.

DDR4-3400 (Memory Multiplier 34.00) with XMP timings and voltage.

 

At this stage I'm suspecting the particular Ryzen 3600 you have doesn't want to play nice with DDR4-3600 memory.

Buuut, it could be that the B550 board just needs more firmware (e.g. BIOS) optimizations.

 

To be honest if DDR4-3600 CL16 doesn't work, but if DDR4-3200 and / or DDR4-3400 works, do the next best thing.

Start lowering / tightening those memory timings... see if you can get CL14 or CL15.

 

'Tech Jesus' from Gamers' Nexus did some initial memory testing with their Ryzen 5000-series CPU, but it would apply to Ryzen 3000-series too.

Their "Standardized" DDR4-3200 CL14 kit actually performed better than DDR4-3600 CL16, and DDR4-3800 CL18.

(FYI they later clarified it was not the number of sticks that gave additional +10%, but because of single-rank / dual-rank DRAM configuration)

 

 

I wouldn't be to concerned about trying to get DDR4-3600 CL16 working.

Even if you can get DDR4-3200 or DDR4-3400, and lowering the timings as a bonus, can be just as good.

Depending on certain games, and how they work with latency and bandwidth, DDR4-3600 might pull slightly ahead...but not by night-and-day difference.

 

Regards to "enable me" to run at DDR4-3600, if the problem lies in the Ryzen 3600 that you got, and the so called poor "silicon lottery" chance, you might have better luck with the next CPU you swap in. Plus, AMD did state the Integrated Memory Controller (IMC) is even more robust than Ryzen 3000-series. They were touting "up to" DDR4-40000 / DDR4-3800, where Ryzen 3000-series was "up to" DDR4-3600 / DDR4-3733.

 

As for the 32GB part, even your current Ryzen 3600 should have no issues doing that.

Keep in mind, more DIMM modules (e.g. more slots used up) also puts more stress / load on the IMC.

 

Let's say you eventually DID get DDR4-3600 working with a 16GB (2 X 8GB) set-up on your Ryzen 3600.

2 years later you add another 16GB, for a total of 32GB (4 X 8GB).

You *might* find out that you can't run DDR4-3600 stable with all 4 sticks anymore, and might need to drop it down to DDR4-3400, or something.

 

That was actually my scenario.

I was able to overclock my 16GB (2 X 8GB) DDR4-3000 CL14  to DDR4-3600 CL15.

Once I added another matching kit in (e.g. also DDR4-3000 CL14), the DDR4-3600 overclock was no longer 100% stable.

Games would randomly BSoD,  BIOS will revert to default settings when waking up / powering on the system.

So far, DDR4-3400 CL15 is working.

I don't need the DDR4-3600 speed....but doesn't hurt to tout some 3DMark / Memory benchmark fame 

 

(Actually, I might be too aggressive on the memory timings, since I'm manually dialing in all (~80%) of the primary / secondary / tertiary timings, I'll poke at it during the Christmas / winter holiday)

 

If you want to get into the nitty gritty of DDR4 RAM overclocking.... 

https://github.com/integralfx/MemTestHelper/blob/master/DDR4 OC Guide.md

Thanks for all the educational input! I didn't know that populating more memory slots makes it harder for the controller, but yeah, it makes sense. I'll see what time brings, maybe memory will be so cheap at the time I'm swapping CPU and GPU I'll just go and grab some new 2x 16GB sticks, or maybe it'll go through the roof and I'll be using my 16GB setup a little bit longer.

I like city builders, and they use, well, almost all the RAM there is. But I'm no hardcore player. I play from time to time on PC, as well as on consoles. Graphics and FPS aren't the most important things for me. Yes, they're great, but for me I don't need nothing more than those graphics & FPS I get on Xbox One or PS4 Pro playing Forza, Horizon Zero Down, RDR 2 etc. I recently played GTA IV for some nostalgia, as well as the RDR from 2010 and I enjoyed it as I did when I played it on X360 years ago.  I don't even know what the FPS was, but it wasn't stuttering, so for me that's enough, as long as the game (story etc.) is good
For now I'm nor comfortable, nor advanced enough for messing manually aroung in the BIOS. All those timing columns etc. are a little bit too overwhelming for me.

I'm already happy/satisfied that with your help and input I was able to "unclock" my stubborn memory to the state it is now (3200MHz CL16) from the state it was (2667MHz, and I don't even remember what the CL was).

I mean - till this month I was running close to 10yo PC - Q9400 (OC 3.2GHz) with Asus V60 and Noctua 80mm PWM fan, 8GB 800MHz, GA-P35-DS3R, RX460 (yup, still rocking it for now ), Thermaltake TR2-500 PP.
So this alone, upgrading to 16GB of 3200MHz CL16 memory is like day and night difference for me

I upgrade to a new setup... not too often as you can see .
When I do I try to make it as "Future Proof" as possible (minus the GPU).
And yes, I know AM4 B550 + Ryzens 5000 are the last combo on this socket, then AM5 is coming out, but I won't (propably) need nothing more than 12Cores from R9 5900X soon.

I guess the topic is complete. I'm happy with the score I got (for now ), and I'm not knowledgeable enough to tinker with things more

Once again HUUUUGE thank you to all that helped me in this thread, as well as on the previous one. Especially to you @-rascal-
In the future, when something will change and I will "feel like tinkering" I'll let you guys know!
Cheers!

P.S. It was too tempting... I'm now at 3400MHz CL16 Running good & stable (*for now at least).
I tried to make it go to 3600 one more time, I thought - "maybe it needs to go gradually, step by step".
Nope. Couldn't even go to Windows
But heck yeah! Even more speed (Jeremy Clarkson would be proud...)
 

 

[mad2v]

On 12/13/2020 at 11:13 AM, TwisteddJoker said:

Thanks for all the educational input! I didn't know that populating more memory slots makes it harder for the controller, but yeah, it makes sense. I'll see what time brings, maybe memory will be so cheap at the time I'm swapping CPU and GPU I'll just go and grab some new 2x 16GB sticks, or maybe it'll go through the roof and I'll be using my 16GB setup a little bit longer.

I like city builders, and they use, well, almost all the RAM there is. But I'm no hardcore player. I play from time to time on PC, as well as on consoles. Graphics and FPS aren't the most important things for me. Yes, they're great, but for me I don't need nothing more than those graphics & FPS I get on Xbox One or PS4 Pro playing Forza, Horizon Zero Down, RDR 2 etc. I recently played GTA IV for some nostalgia, as well as the RDR from 2010 and I enjoyed it as I did when I played it on X360 years ago.  I don't even know what the FPS was, but it wasn't stuttering, so for me that's enough, as long as the game (story etc.) is good
For now I'm nor comfortable, nor advanced enough for messing manually aroung in the BIOS. All those timing columns etc. are a little bit too overwhelming for me.

I'm already happy/satisfied that with your help and input I was able to "unclock" my stubborn memory to the state it is now (3200MHz CL16) from the state it was (2667MHz, and I don't even remember what the CL was).

I mean - till this month I was running close to 10yo PC - Q9400 (OC 3.2GHz) with Asus V60 and Noctua 80mm PWM fan, 8GB 800MHz, GA-P35-DS3R, RX460 (yup, still rocking it for now ), Thermaltake TR2-500 PP.
So this alone, upgrading to 16GB of 3200MHz CL16 memory is like day and night difference for me

I upgrade to a new setup... not too often as you can see .
When I do I try to make it as "Future Proof" as possible (minus the GPU).
And yes, I know AM4 B550 + Ryzens 5000 are the last combo on this socket, then AM5 is coming out, but I won't (propably) need nothing more than 12Cores from R9 5900X soon.

I guess the topic is complete. I'm happy with the score I got (for now ), and I'm not knowledgeable enough to tinker with things more

Once again HUUUUGE thank you to all that helped me in this thread, as well as on the previous one. Especially to you @-rascal-
In the future, when something will change and I will "feel like tinkering" I'll let you guys know!
Cheers!

P.S. It was too tempting... I'm now at 3400MHz CL16 Running good & stable (*for now at least).
I tried to make it go to 3600 one more time, I thought - "maybe it needs to go gradually, step by step".
Nope. Couldn't even go to Windows
But heck yeah! Even more speed (Jeremy Clarkson would be proud...)
 

 

Hi @TwisteddJoker 

I have the same problem in x.m.p Profile 1.... can u give me DRAM for 3400Hz ..

tCL ?

tRFL ?

.... 

ALL OF IT ...

 I want to see if will work with me