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is the AMD Athlon 64 pins the same size as the ryzen cpus

i have a ryzen cpu with some missing pins, i was wondering if i could take the AMD Athlon 64 pins and use them.

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3 minutes ago, TheRealCoopsta said:

i have a ryzen cpu with some missing pins, i was wondering if i could take the AMD Athlon 64 pins and use them.

 

Socket AM4 pins should be smaller.

The Socket size hasn't changed (40mm x 40mm) vs AM2 / AM3 / AM3+, but the number of pins increased.

Pin size (diameter) is different.

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1 minute ago, ragnarok0273 said:

No. The socket density - and thus pin sizes - has changed.

Incidentally, what CPU?

3600

 

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1 minute ago, TheRealCoopsta said:

3600

 

Poor 3600.

How many pins are missing? You may have gotten lucky and the pins weren't necessary/reserved for future use (like Zen 3).

If they aren't, see if you can find a broken chip on eBay.

Also, don't kill the Athlon 64!

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Try it, see what happens. Worst case scenario, you still have a dead CPU...

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1 minute ago, ragnarok0273 said:

Poor 3600.

How many pins are missing? You may have gotten lucky and the pins weren't necessary/reserved for future use (like Zen 3).

If they aren't, see if you can find a broken chip on eBay.

Also, don't kill the Athlon 64!

i tested, its the ones that talk to the memory

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4 minutes ago, ragnarok0273 said:

You could try and get something crappy like a 200GE and sacrifice it to save your 3600.

my friend might have a broken one, i think a 2600 he might give it to me to repair mine

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Socket AM4 pin diameter: 0.485mm

Socket AM3+ pin diameter: 0.510mm

Socket AM3 pin diameter: 0.45mm

 

(Still looking for Socket AM2+ / AM2 / 939 spec)

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1 minute ago, -rascal- said:

Socket AM4 pin diameter: 0.485mm

Socket AM3+ pin diameter: 0.510mm

Socket AM3 pin diameter: 0.45mm

 

(Still looking for Socket AM2+ / AM2 / 939 spec)

thank you

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so i checked the pin out of the cpu i am missing a ground and a couple of audio pins nothing to do with the memory

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  • 2 months later...

 

On 12/9/2020 at 3:22 AM, -rascal- said:

Socket AM4 pin diameter: 0.485mm

Socket AM3+ pin diameter: 0.510mm

Socket AM3 pin diameter: 0.45mm

 

(Still looking for Socket AM2+ / AM2 / 939 spec)

These are the socket holes dimensions. Pin diameter is the same since socket 754 but what changed is the pin pitch (distance between center of two pins). AM4 has 1mm and therefore the pin pad (the small pad at the bottom of the pin) is smaller (was not able to find the dimensions). And there is also change in pin length (AM4 pins are shorter).

look here (not all dimension written there but can be deduced) https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/amd/packages/socket_am4

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