Upgrading existing build pls help? (Upgrading CPU)

[Jaspere]

Budget (including currency): 0 Euro - 600 Euro

Country: Belguim

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: General gaming like cold war, CSGO, photoshop etc rendering also 3d building is autocad etc.

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 
My build concludes atm :
Intel I5 - 7600 (Which is the main problem atm I think)
Motherboard Z270 - A
16 GB of Vengeance or something 
Cooler is a NZXT Kraken Double fan with rgb 
Somewhere around 750 - 1000 Watss so that shouldnt need an upgrade

GTX 1080 MSI Gaming X 8 GB
Storage is atm 500 GB SSD ( Have an external for schoolwork, photos, etc )
3 monitors all 60 Hz

 

Can someone give me examples of which CPU i need to buy for a better performance in games because main reason is that CPU is always against 100 percent while playing what results in lagg sometimes.
 

 

[Enzo1001]

Well if you can get a 5600x and a b550 mobo and maybe some 3600mhz ram (idk ur ram speed) than you can upgrade your cpu later on

[Jaspere]

19 minutes ago, Enzo1001 said:

Well if you can get a 5600x and a b550 mobo and maybe some 3600mhz ram (idk ur ram speed) than you can upgrade your cpu later on

What does that mean ? I am srry hhe, and how can i check the speed of my ram ?

[Enzo1001]

The 5600X is the Ryzen 5 5600X. With b550 mobo, i mean a B550 Chipset Motherboard

[Jaspere]

Just now, Enzo1001 said:

The 5600X is the Ryzen 5 5600X. With b550 mobo, i mean a B550 Chipset Motherboard

Is it easier for me/ cheaper to switch to AMD from intel if i have to buy new motherboard and CPU instead of ust a new CPU from intel ?

[Enzo1001]

Just now, Jaspere said:

Is it easier for me/ cheaper to switch to AMD from intel if i have to buy new motherboard and CPU instead of ust a new CPU from intel ?

It would be better for the futuer because it would be easyer for you to upgrade in the fututere. The best cpu you can get for this platform is the i7 7700k and its just a 4 core 8 thread CPU. If you want you can invest a little more, buy yourself a B550 MOBO and a 5600X, because in the future you could get somthing fancier without having to change the mobo

[Jaspere]

8 minutes ago, Enzo1001 said:

It would be better for the futuer because it would be easyer for you to upgrade in the fututere. The best cpu you can get for this platform is the i7 7700k and its just a 4 core 8 thread CPU. If you want you can invest a little more, buy yourself a B550 MOBO and a 5600X, because in the future you could get somthing fancier without having to change the mobo

Oh i see im new to AMD so which amd series is then the best for now ? Not finding the 5600x is it new ? (atleast cant find it yet in my local webstores)

 

[Enzo1001]

1 minute ago, Jaspere said:

Oh i see im new to AMD so which amd series is then the best for now ? Not finding the 5600x is it new ? (atleast cant find it yet in my local webstores)

 

So the best AMD cpus for consumers and "gamers" is the Ryzen 5000 series. It is preatty new and its out of stock every where. Its becasue bots are buying them and reselling them on sites like ebay for more. If youre lucky you can catch one. The prices of these are: R5 5600X 300$ AND R7 5800X 450$ If you can find on of these for this price, buy it. Theyre both good the R7 is obv. better. Both CPUs reqire a B550 OR X570 Mobo. 400 series will be supported too but the bios update is not yet out.(B550 and X570 need one too bu theyre already availeble for download)

[Jaspere]

5 minutes ago, Enzo1001 said:

So the best AMD cpus for consumers and "gamers" is the Ryzen 5000 series. It is preatty new and its out of stock every where. Its becasue bots are buying them and reselling them on sites like ebay for more. If youre lucky you can catch one. The prices of these are: R5 5600X 300$ AND R7 5800X 450$ If you can find on of these for this price, buy it. Theyre both good the R7 is obv. better. Both CPUs reqire a B550 OR X570 Mobo. 400 series will be supported too but the bios update is not yet out.(B550 and X570 need one too bu theyre already availeble for download)

ooh thanks !! Ill have to wait then for the CPU but with black friday and the sale ill buy the mobo now already! And what about the R9 from the new 5000 series is it not worth it or ?

[Jason 57]

5 minutes ago, Jaspere said:

Oh i see im new to AMD so which amd series is then the best for now ? Not finding the 5600x is it new ? (atleast cant find it yet in my local webstores)

 

Yes, the Ryzen 5 5600X is the latest CPU that AMD has released. (like 2 weeks old)

The problem with Intel, is that you have to upgrade your MOBO every other generation of CPU. 

AMD made a commitment 5 years ago to keep the AM4 socket on it's MOBOs. that 5 year end is this year 2020. 

My thought is that the next generation of Ryzen CPUs (6000 series) will be a different socket. Which means the B550 and X570 MOBO chipsets are the last in this line. 

 

If you are OK with that (and MANY of us are fine with it) then get an AMD cpu and MOBO.

 

It depends on how much you want to spend, and what features you want on your MOBO.  

[Enzo1001]

Just now, Jaspere said:

ooh thanks !! Ill have to wait then for the CPU but with black friday and the sale ill buy the mobo now already! And what about the R9 from the new 5000 series is it not worth it or ?

Well if you have the budget than sure you can buy it, but if you wont use it i wouldnt recommand, I would get the MSI B550 Tomahawk its the best board for around 200$ if you can get the MSI X570 tomahawk its a bit better

[Jason 57]

1 minute ago, Jaspere said:

And what about the R9 from the new 5000 series is it not worth it or ?

As stated above, there is more performance the higher you go. However the question is how MUCH can you spend!!!

I personally wouldn't go above an R7. But I am also ok with not having BLEEDING edge hardware that I spent a fortune on. 

 

I upgrade my main system (CPU, Memory, MOBO) about every 8 years or so. 

[Enzo1001]

Also if you want to wait the non x versions of the 5000 series are coming too will be about 200$ (or atleast what i read) and a great deal

[Jason 57]

1 minute ago, Enzo1001 said:

Well if you have the budget than sure you can buy it, but if you wont use it i wouldnt recommand, I would get the MSI B550 Tomahawk its the best board for around 200$ if you can get the MSI X570 tomahawk its a bit better

This is can attest to!!

 

I waited and bought the X570 Tomahawk!

It has what I need for the next 4 to 8 years. LOL

[Jaspere]

OOh okay okay so this will be the last for the line of Mobo thing kinda understand thanks btw, ill probably just upgrade my storage for now till the new line like am5 socket or something comes out maybe so i dont have to upgrade in a year or 2 again. Would u guys know when this happens ?

[Enzo1001]

Just now, Jason 57 said:

As stated above, there is more performance the higher you go. However the question is how MUCH can you spend!!!

I personally wouldn't go above an R7. But I am also ok with not having BLEEDING edge hardware that I spent a fortune on. 

 

I upgrade my main system (CPU, Memory, MOBO) about every 8 years or so. 

I woudnt wait for that long 4-5 i would say, 

[Enzo1001]

Just now, Jaspere said:

OOh okay okay so this will be the last for the line of Mobo thing kinda understand thanks btw, ill probably just upgrade my storage for now till the new line like am5 socket or something comes out maybe so i dont have to upgrade in a year or 2 again. Would u guys know when this happens ?

AM5 probably wont come out for long because its kind of AMDs marketing to use the same socket thats why people prefer AMD to intel

[Jaspere]

1 minute ago, Jason 57 said:

This is can attest to!!

 

I waited and bought the X570 Tomahawk!

It has what I need for the next 4 to 8 years. LOL

ooh so it is good enough to support not to high depending games etc, but what i usuallly do is game but have my schoolwork open. I just need to be sure to play games like COD but have my autocad or live lessons open on another screen for my next 5-8 years of studies xp

[Jason 57]

2 minutes ago, Enzo1001 said:

Also if you want to wait the non x versions of the 5000 series are coming too will be about 200$ (or atleast what i read) and a great deal

that is, they aren't going to be bought up like everything else.

That is the joy of supply and demand.

 

Is it a NEED or a WANT?

 

I upgraded from a Phenom II in a FX2 socket to a Ryzen 5 3600. 

My plan is to get the Ryzen 7 5700X in about 4 years when the price is about $200. 

[Jaspere]

Just now, Enzo1001 said:

AM5 probably wont come out for long because its kind of AMDs marketing to use the same socket thats why people prefer AMD to intel

Ooh okay ill just look i think for that r7 you mentioned before with the tomahawk thingy :)) Thanks again for everything !!

[Enzo1001]

1 minute ago, Jaspere said:

ooh so it is good enough to support not to high depending games etc, but what i usuallly do is game but have my schoolwork open. I just need to be sure to play games like COD but have my autocad or live lessons open on another screen for my next 5-8 years of studies xp

Well i would get a 5800X and if you can 32gb 3600mhz ram but thats just "the cherry on top". But if you can gat 3600mhz ram too. It boosts preformance

[Jaspere]

1 minute ago, Jason 57 said:

that is, they aren't going to be bought up like everything else.

That is the joy of supply and demand.

 

Is it a NEED or a WANT?

 

I upgraded from a Phenom II in a FX2 socket to a Ryzen 5 3600. 

My plan is to get the Ryzen 7 5700X in about 4 years when the price is about $200. 

ooh smart but i have my pc now 4 years i think or something but just most games i play now start to lagg depends cpu usage and since i play and/or have multiple screens open for school lessons etc  so kinda need the upgrade before my pc shuts down again whaha

[Jason 57]

2 minutes ago, Enzo1001 said:

I woudnt wait for that long 4-5 i would say, 

Eh, I am old. I also haven't been playing anything demanding for awhile. 

 

The whole reason I upgraded is because my daughter said playing Overwatch had single digit frame rates. 

 

I bought a used GTX 1070 for $200 last year. But my CPU was holding that WAY BACK!

[Jaspere]

Just now, Enzo1001 said:

Well i would get a 5800X and if you can 32gb 3600mhz ram but thats just "the cherry on top". But if you can gat 3600mhz ram too. It boosts preformance

Perfect ill look for that ive saved up quite a bit and since corona everything is online, so thank you !! :))

[Jaspere]

1 minute ago, Jason 57 said:

Eh, I am old. I also haven't been playing anything demanding for awhile. 

 

The whole reason I upgraded is because my daughter said playing Overwatch had single digit frame rates. 

 

I bought a used GTX 1070 for $200 last year. But my CPU was holding that WAY BACK!

Nice also thanks for the help btw hhe