Cheap All-around PC

[Urz]

Building fresh setup to go from my laptop to actual PC

 

Budget (including currency): 60000RUB (~800$)

Country: Russia

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Programming, gaming, streaming, basic video editing... Basically, for everything 

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

 

I know pcpartpicker prices are very much different from what i could get in mother russia, but i guess this is a OK representation of what i have now:
I already have hard drive, so i can skip that

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 3 3100 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor	$124.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler	Deepcool GAMMAXX 300 55.5 CFM CPU Cooler	$20.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard	ASRock B450 Steel Legend ATX AM4 Motherboard	$107.99 @ Amazon
Memory	Patriot Viper Steel 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 CL16 Memory	$62.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Samsung 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$69.00 @ Amazon
Video Card	Asus GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER 4 GB TUF GAMING OC Video Card	$173.98 @ Newegg
Case	Zalman S2 ATX Mid Tower Case	$49.98 @ Amazon
Power Supply	be quiet! Pure Power 11 500 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply	$79.98 @ Amazon
Monitor	Asus VA24DQ 23.8" 1920x1080 75 Hz Monitor	$119.00 @ B&H
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$808.90
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-11-21 14:57 EST-0500

 

 

Text version just in case link is bonked:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 3100 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX 300 55.5 CFM CPU Cooler 
Motherboard: ASRock B450 Steel Legend ATX AM4 Motherboard 
Memory: Patriot Viper Steel 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 CL16 Memory 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive 
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER 4 GB TUF GAMING OC Video Card 
Case: Zalman S2 ATX Mid Tower Case 
Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 11 500 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply 
Monitor: Asus VA24DQ 23.8" 1920x1080 75 Hz Monitor 

 

I am fine with 60 fps on most games in medium quality, want to stream games like Apex Legends, Divinity Original Sin 2, Witcher 3 in 720p

 

Is this a good setup? I am not sure of how much is possible with system like that

Could i replace something to get same/better specs for lower price?

[FakeFBI]

hmmmm i know that u can change like ares of the world you can get parts in pcpartpicker, but ima check if you can change to russia, if you want a $800 build, hohoho, i can find soem stuff, theres soem ryzen 5 3600's on ebay for 136.99, so thats a deal already. for the cpu, adn if you would want a good 720p 60 fps, i would recomend 970 tbh, bc it can run 1080 greatly, on low and medium settings. so 720p would be a breeze for it. and i coudl maybe get a 980 ti for that much.

also geting more like used parts in future, because if you get parts barely used, that can sometimes go wrongly

[Electronics Wizardy]

Id use the stock cooler, it will be plenty.

 

Id get a cheaper ssd, you won't notice the performance difference

 

Id go i3 10100, a bit cheaper and faster.

 

 

[Urz]

2 minutes ago, ComputerBuilder said:

theres soem ryzen 5 3600's on ebay

Well, i think ebay is not an option for me, since it will be headache to ship it. I would like to get all parts from local stores, if possible

[FakeFBI]

ok sir, do you guys have a russian like micro center(pc parts store)

[FakeFBI]

o also theres no russia location, but theres poland and sweden, even norway, so that might be equivelint

[FakeFBI]

3 minutes ago, Urz said:

Well, i think ebay is not an option for me, since it will be headache to ship it. I would like to get all parts from local stores, if possible

i have found two stores you might like, the only ones i found now 

https://www.xcom-shop.ru/

https://www.citilink.ru/

am polish in usa, but can not navigate the russian alphabet

[FakeFBI]

also i dont think they sell old gpus so you might have a bit of a problem of getting a 970 or 980 ti

[FakeFBI]

translated it

[FakeFBI]

ok yea i think russia is a tiny bit, limited, on the parts

[Urz]

1 minute ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Id use the stock cooler, it will be plenty

I was thinking about that, might be a good idea. I heard that you need cooler for Ryzen 5 3600, but i think 3100 might not produce that much heat compared to 3600?

 

3 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Id get a cheaper ssd, you won't notice the performance difference

I would like to get an SSD that will serve me a long time, what type of ssd i can get instead?

 

5 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Id go i3 10100, a bit cheaper and faster

I am leaning towards AMD,  since they are praised as a great processor for professional work and gaming. Havent heard much about intel side of things, to be honest

[FakeFBI]

1 minute ago, Urz said:

I was thinking about that, might be a good idea. I heard that you need cooler for Ryzen 5 3600, but i think 3100 might not produce that much heat compared to 3600?

 

I would like to get an SSD that will serve me a long time, what type of ssd i can get instead?

 

I am leaning towards AMD,  since they are praised as a great processor for professional work and gaming. Havent heard much about intel side of things, to be honest

lemme just sasy, amd has won for now, 3000 series was competetor, 5000 series blew out intel, so you are right, but i feel like ryzen 5 will sometimes kick in for that extra 2 cores video edit and streaming, will help put less load on cpu, so if you are willing to do it, and btw, do u have type of like ebay or soemthing in russia

[Urz]

2 minutes ago, ComputerBuilder said:

lemme just sasy, amd has won for now, 3000 series was competetor, 5000 series blew out intel, so you are right, but i feel like ryzen 5 will sometimes kick in for that extra 2 cores video edit and streaming, will help put less load on cpu, so if you are willing to do it, and btw, do u have type of like ebay or soemthing in russia

As i said before, i am not looking to buying used parts, i know i can find cheaper parts but since i am not experienced in that field i am risking on buying something that might be, well, bad or almost-broken

[Electronics Wizardy]

3 minutes ago, ComputerBuilder said:

emme just sasy, amd has won for now, 3000 series was competetor, 5000 series blew out intel, so you are right, but i feel like ryzen 5 will sometimes kick in for that extra 2 cores video edit and streaming, will help put less load on cpu, so if you are willing to do it, and btw, do u have type of like ebay or soemthing in russia

10100 is bsaicallyy better than the 3100, a bit cheaper, faster in most users, has a igpu if needed, and much more common. I don't see a reason to get the 3100 when the 10100 exisits currently.

 

7 minutes ago, Urz said:

am leaning towards AMD,  since they are praised as a great processor for professional work and gaming. Havent heard much about intel side of things, to be honest

go look at revies, but its a better part for that segment, same core and thread count, cheaper normally, much more common, has a igpu if needed.

 

7 minutes ago, Urz said:

I would like to get an SSD that will serve me a long time, what type of ssd i can get instead?

 

All ssds should last a long time. id probably get a cheaper nvme drive like a 660p or sn550

 

8 minutes ago, Urz said:

I was thinking about that, might be a good idea. I heard that you need cooler for Ryzen 5 3600, but i think 3100 might not produce that much heat compared to 3600?

stock cooler is really fine for that price, and the cheap aftermarket coolers aren't worth it at that price, so save the money on the cooler here.

[FakeFBI]

oh i thought u meant something else, then 1650 should be good, or even 1060, nvidia still sells some, but what type of pc stores u got, then i can try adn improve parts for $800

[FakeFBI]

1 minute ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

10100 is bsaicallyy better than the 3100, a bit cheaper, faster in most users, has a igpu if needed, and much more common. I don't see a reason to get the 3100 when the 10100 exisits currently.

 

go look at revies, but its a better part for that segment, same core and thread count, cheaper normally, much more common, has a igpu if needed.

 

All ssds should last a long time. id probably get a cheaper nvme drive like a 660p or sn550

 

stock cooler is really fine for that price, and the cheap aftermarket coolers aren't worth it at that price, so save the money on the cooler here.

yes the stock cooler works fine even for ryzen 7, unless oc(overclock) also like he said, all ssds last long time, if they good companys, because they so easy to produce so no worry

[wall03]

24 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Id use the stock cooler, it will be plenty.

I disagree.

 

2 minutes ago, ComputerBuilder said:

yes the stock cooler works fine even for ryzen 7, unless oc(overclock) also like he said, all ssds last long time, if they good companys, because they so easy to produce so no worry

I donate Folding Power and it's at 85C all the time.

[FakeFBI]

1. i would like to know why u disagree peacfully

2.what is folding power, do you run ryzen 7????

[Entropy.]

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel Core i3-10100 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor	$114.59 @ Amazon
Motherboard	MSI B460M-A PRO Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard	$73.98 @ Amazon
Memory	Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	$54.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Crucial MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$55.99 @ Adorama
Case	Cooler Master MasterBox MB311L ARGB MicroATX Mid Tower Case	$59.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply	Corsair CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply	$44.94 @ Newegg
Custom	Whatever GPU comes in at $400 from AMD or Nvidia	$400.00
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$824.48
	Mail-in rebates	-$20.00
	Total	$804.48
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-11-21 15:58 EST-0500

I'd go with something like  this instead. It's a better value. It'll overall preform similarly in cpu-bound tasks but far better in gpu bound tasks such as gaming. Oh, and also Model>Brand.  What that means is don't judge a product by the brand, judge a product... by that product. 

[wall03]

1 minute ago, ComputerBuilder said:

1. i would like to know why u disagree peacfully

I don't have a strong opinion, because most people don't put their folding power at max or fold at all.

 

2 minutes ago, ComputerBuilder said:

2.what is folding power, do you run ryzen 7????

It's F@H. I run Ryzen 5 with the crap-tastic Wraith Stealth.

[Electronics Wizardy]

5 minutes ago, wall03 said:

I disagree.

 

full specs?

 

5 minutes ago, wall03 said:

I donate Folding Power and it's at 85C all the time.

thats well within rated temps for the chips, nothing to be worried about.

[wall03]

3 minutes ago, Brok3n But who cares? said:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel Core i3-10100 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor	$114.59 @ Amazon
Motherboard	MSI B460M-A PRO Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard	$73.98 @ Amazon
Memory	Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	$54.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Crucial MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$55.99 @ Adorama
Case	Cooler Master MasterBox MB311L ARGB MicroATX Mid Tower Case	$59.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply	Corsair CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply	$44.94 @ Newegg
Custom	Whatever GPU comes in at $400 from AMD or Nvidia	$400.00
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$824.48
	Mail-in rebates	-$20.00
	Total	$804.48
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-11-21 15:58 EST-0500

I'd go with something like  this instead. It's a better value. 

I wouldn't pair a low cost CPU with a mid-high range GPU.

 

How much is a 3300x nowadays?

[Entropy.]

Just now, wall03 said:

I wouldn't pair a low cost CPU with a mid-high range GPU.

 

How much is a 3300x?

I'd be perfectly fine. A 3300x basically has no advantages over the 3100.

[wall03]

Just now, Electronics Wizardy said:

full specs?

Ryzen 5 3600 at stock (no limits on clock though)

Radeon RX570 8GB

GIGABYTE DS3H B450

G.SKILL 3200 MHz RAM (don't know if it's running at it though)

do you need anything else for specs tbh?

fine. The case is a Thermaltake H17 and I have 2 be quiet! fans in there instead of the stock coolers.

2 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

thats well within rated temps for the chips, nothing to be worried about.

I still worry

[wall03]

Just now, Brok3n But who cares? said:

I'd be perfectly fine. A 3300x basically has no advantages over the 3100.

it has everything on a CCX.

fine...