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RAM on STRIX B450-F GAMING stuck on 2133HZ

Hi everyone my pc is not liking the new ram i have installed, it ran fine on the 2 sticks of 8 DDR4 3200hz it had previously and i got another set  of corsair vengeance 3200hz but my pc wont boot with 3200hz speed i have  to cap it at 2133hz, i have looked everywhere and have tried the following 
updated bios
enabled DOCP
increased voltage to 1.37
i had my first set of ram in the A2  and B2 slots then moved it to A1 and B1 so i only have two sticks i know are good in A1 B1 however it capped it again at 2133hz so im not sure whats wrong with a1 and b1
my specs AMD ryzen 7 2700x
motherboard STRIX B450-F GAMING any ideas?

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20 minutes ago, rw_wheeler said:

What CPU do you have installed?

 

Also have you tried the XMP Profile?

@rw_wheeler my cpu is AMD ryzen 7 2700x i cant find the XMP profile there only is DOCP

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4 minutes ago, Lbedro said:

@rw_wheeler my cpu is AMD ryzen 7 2700x i cant find the XMP profile there only is DOCP

Sorry i didn't read the end of the question lol.

 

What is the model number for the ram you have?

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1 minute ago, rw_wheeler said:

Sorry i didn't read the end of the question lol.

 

What is the model number for the ram you have?

Np not sure if this is the model number but both are CMK16GX4M2B3200C16

 

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https://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/rog_strix_b450_f_gaming_review,6.html

"The layout is fantastic and the options are plentiful, until you need something basic like manual core voltage control, or an XMP profile. Both of which are missing in the public BIOS release. We have been provided with a beta BIOS build which adds in manual voltage control but as far as XMP is concerned, you’re gonna have to enter those timings manually."

I've never encountered a board that couldn't read and use a RAM's built in XMP profile LOL learn something new everyday.

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3 minutes ago, terminalinfinity said:

https://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/rog_strix_b450_f_gaming_review,6.html

"The layout is fantastic and the options are plentiful, until you need something basic like manual core voltage control, or an XMP profile. Both of which are missing in the public BIOS release. We have been provided with a beta BIOS build which adds in manual voltage control but as far as XMP is concerned, you’re gonna have to enter those timings manually."

I've never encountered a board that couldn't read and use a RAM's built in XMP profile LOL learn something new everyday.

FFS 😅😂 

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13 minutes ago, Lbedro said:

Np not sure if this is the model number but both are CMK16GX4M2B3200C16

 

So i don't see that ram on the mobo QVL for that processor series.

 

So that's why its capped

 

Check it out on the support website

 

https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/SocketAM4/ROG_STRIX_B450_F_GAMING/Memory_QVL_AMD_Ryzen_2000_Series_Processors_B450_4DIMM.pdf

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Not trying to be a douche but that board sucks, i used one and sold it for half price

No cpu mobo or ram atm

2tb wd black gen 4 nvme 

2tb seagate hdd

Corsair rm750x 

Be quiet 500dx 

Gigabyte m34wq 3440x1440

Xbox series x

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3 minutes ago, rw_wheeler said:

So i don't see that ram on the mobo QVL for that processor series.

 

So that's why its capped

 

Check it out on the support website

 

https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/SocketAM4/ROG_STRIX_B450_F_GAMING/Memory_QVL_AMD_Ryzen_2000_Series_Processors_B450_4DIMM.pdf

@rw_wheeler is there nothing i can do ? also it doesn't make sense because 2 sticks of 8 where working fine for all this time not trying to argue with the facts but im now sad :( 

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1 minute ago, Lbedro said:

@rw_wheeler is there nothing i can do ? also it do

1 minute ago, Lbedro said:

@rw_wheeler is there nothing i can do ? also it doesn't make sense because 2 sticks of 8 where working fine for all this time not trying to argue with the facts but im now sad :( 

I am guessing the other sticks was on the list?. i would suggest getting 2 or 4 sticks that are on the list.

 

You could try playing with timings and see what happens?

 

1 minute ago, Lbedro said:

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Lbedro said:

@rw_wheeler is there nothing i can do ? also it doesn't make sense because 2 sticks of 8 where working fine for all this time not trying to argue with the facts but im now sad :( 

I had nothing but issues with that same model board. I sold it and went right back to a MSI one and had no issues at all

 

No cpu mobo or ram atm

2tb wd black gen 4 nvme 

2tb seagate hdd

Corsair rm750x 

Be quiet 500dx 

Gigabyte m34wq 3440x1440

Xbox series x

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4 minutes ago, Lbedro said:

@rw_wheeler is there nothing i can do ? also it doesn't make sense because 2 sticks of 8 where working fine for all this time not trying to argue with the facts but im now sad :( 

I would use the Ryzen DRAM calculator and get manual timings for a safe profile at your desired speed.   You'll probably get a bump in performance over a stock XMP profile as well.

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Just now, terminalinfinity said:

I would use the Ryzen DRAM calculator and get manual timings for a safe profile at your desired speed.   You'll probably get a bump in performance over a stock XMP profile as well.

do you have a good link?

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4 minutes ago, rw_wheeler said:

 

 

@rw_wheeler nah there not on the list, all 4 versions are the same, gonna try messing with timings

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@terminalinfinity @rw_wheeler sorry to at you both but do you guys know how to determin memory type for CMK16GX4M2B3200C16 is it B-DIE or S-DIE? 
edit also what possessor is ryzen 7 2700x? from the options below 
im not smart enough to use this calculator XD


 image.png.e67334287f3bf998d84098496eeae80f.png

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Just now, Lbedro said:

@terminalinfinity @rw_wheeler sorry to at you both but do you guys know how to determin memory type for CMK16GX4M2B3200C16 is it B-DIE or S-DIE?

Thaiphoon burner.

 

You can also get your exact ram profile from it rather than letting the ram calculator guess.

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1 minute ago, terminalinfinity said:

Thaiphoon burner.

 

You can also get your exact ram profile from it rather than letting the ram calculator guess.

using Thaiphoon burner but doesnt give  the die type image.png.9f477255618e2d5387b0ac2110afd8c3.png

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Just now, Lbedro said:

using Thaiphoon burner but doesnt give  the die type image.png.9f477255618e2d5387b0ac2110afd8c3.png

That's Samsung b-die

Click report

Select one of your ram sticks

Scroll to bottom and click "show delays in nanoseconds"

Export

to complete HTML

 

In Ram calculator

Import XMP

Select the file you created in Thaiphoon burner

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9 minutes ago, Lbedro said:

@terminalinfinity @rw_wheeler sorry to at you both but do you guys know how to determin memory type for CMK16GX4M2B3200C16 is it B-DIE or S-DIE? 
edit also what possessor is ryzen 7 2700x? from the options below 
im not smart enough to use this calculator XD


 image.png.e67334287f3bf998d84098496eeae80f.png

You have Zen+ AM4

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2 minutes ago, terminalinfinity said:

That's Samsung b-die

Click report

Select one of your ram sticks

Scroll to bottom and click "show delays in nanoseconds"

Export

to complete HTML

 

In Ram calculator

Import XMP

Select the file you created in Thaiphoon burner

bless you kind sir 

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