Computer for my son.

[DavidTheUnknownGuy]

Budget (including currency): £5000

Country: England.

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: CAD, gaming, studies and video editing.

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): This computer is for my sons birthday when he goes to university.

After some research on the internet this seams get be excellent for all of the above, this computer is meant to be small while having zero compromises.

Apparently people use P.C. part picker for computer lists, so I did the same.

Here is the list:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 3.5 GHz 16-Core Processor	£639.83 @ Amazon UK
CPU Cooler	be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler	£73.99 @ Box Limited
Thermal Compound	Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut 1g 1 g Thermal Paste	£5.58 @ Amazon UK
Motherboard	Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Impact Mini DTX AM4 Motherboard	£353.40 @ Alza
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-4000 CL18 Memory	£441.53 @ Amazon UK
Storage	Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	£210.50 @ Amazon UK
Storage	Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	£210.50 @ Amazon UK
Storage	Samsung 870 QVO 8 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive	£900.94 @ Newegg UK
Storage	Samsung 870 QVO 8 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive	£900.94 @ Newegg UK
Video Card	Asus GeForce RTX 3090 24 GB STRIX GAMING OC Video Card	£1700.00
Case	Lian Li TU150 Mini ITX Desktop Case	£90.59 @ CCL Computers
Power Supply	Corsair SF 750 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply	£150.00
Operating System	Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit	£168.30 @ Newegg UK
Case Fan	Noctua A12x25 PWM 60.1 CFM 120 mm Fan	£32.73 @ Overclockers.co.uk
Case Fan	Noctua A12x25 PWM 60.1 CFM 120 mm Fan	£32.73 @ Overclockers.co.uk
Case Fan	Noctua A12x25 PWM 60.1 CFM 120 mm Fan	£32.73 @ Overclockers.co.uk
Case Fan	Noctua A12x25 PWM 60.1 CFM 120 mm Fan	£32.73 @ Overclockers.co.uk
Custom	Corsair Fan Controller Commander Pro (CL-9011110-WW)	£54.99 @ Amazon UK
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£6032.01
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-11-08 20:08 GMT+0000

 

[aDoomGuy]

You should know that the QLC chips on the QVL 2,5" SSD gets very slow when you copy a large enough file onto them. I use them for games in RAID and that's fine but copying large files they will slow down quite a lot. They load large games very fast though so if that is all they are intended for then it's all good.

 

Also why have you included a Corsair Commander when there is no Corsair RGB fans? It's gonna be his dream PC though that's for sure.  

[MadAnt250]

16 minutes ago, DavidTheUnknownGuy said:

Budget (including currency): £5000

Country: England.

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: CAD, gaming, studies and video editing.

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): This computer is for my sons birthday when he goes to university.

After some research on the internet this seams get be excellent for all of the above, this computer is meant to be small while having zero compromises.

Apparently people use P.C. part picker for computer lists, so I did the same.

Here is the list:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 3.5 GHz 16-Core Processor	£639.83 @ Amazon UK
CPU Cooler	be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler	£73.99 @ Box Limited
Thermal Compound	Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut 1g 1 g Thermal Paste	£5.58 @ Amazon UK
Motherboard	Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Impact Mini DTX AM4 Motherboard	£353.40 @ Alza
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-4000 CL18 Memory	£441.53 @ Amazon UK
Storage	Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	£210.50 @ Amazon UK
Storage	Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	£210.50 @ Amazon UK
Storage	Samsung 870 QVO 8 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive	£900.94 @ Newegg UK
Storage	Samsung 870 QVO 8 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive	£900.94 @ Newegg UK
Video Card	Asus GeForce RTX 3090 24 GB STRIX GAMING OC Video Card	£1700.00
Case	Lian Li TU150 Mini ITX Desktop Case	£90.59 @ CCL Computers
Power Supply	Corsair SF 750 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply	£150.00
Operating System	Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit	£168.30 @ Newegg UK
Case Fan	Noctua A12x25 PWM 60.1 CFM 120 mm Fan	£32.73 @ Overclockers.co.uk
Case Fan	Noctua A12x25 PWM 60.1 CFM 120 mm Fan	£32.73 @ Overclockers.co.uk
Case Fan	Noctua A12x25 PWM 60.1 CFM 120 mm Fan	£32.73 @ Overclockers.co.uk
Case Fan	Noctua A12x25 PWM 60.1 CFM 120 mm Fan	£32.73 @ Overclockers.co.uk
Custom	Corsair Fan Controller Commander Pro (CL-9011110-WW)	£54.99 @ Amazon UK
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£6032.01
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-11-08 20:08 GMT+0000

 

I don't know if you are telling the truth.

[DavidTheUnknownGuy]

4 minutes ago, aDoomGuy said:

You should know that the QLC chips on the QVL 2,5" SSD gets very slow when you copy a large enough file onto them. I use them for games in RAID and that's fine but copying large files they will slow down quite a lot. They load large games very fast though so if that is all they are intended for then it's all good.

 

Also why have you included a Corsair Commander when there is no Corsair RGB fans? It's gonna be his dream PC though that's for sure.  

I included the Corsair Commander fan controller to be used as a fan controller, I used the Noctua fans because apparently they are the best, I picked those SSDs because they are 8TB for bulk storage, what do you recommend in its place.

[DavidTheUnknownGuy]

5 minutes ago, MadAnt250 said:

I don't know if you are telling the truth.

What makes you think this.

[Devilish]

Dang can you adopt me lmao

[DavidTheUnknownGuy]

Just now, Devilish said:

Dang can you adopt me lmao

I'll take this as a joke, but no.

[aDoomGuy]

5 minutes ago, DavidTheUnknownGuy said:

I included the Corsair Commander fan controller to be used as a fan controller, I used the Noctua fans because apparently they are the best, I picked those SSDs because they are 8TB for bulk storage, what do you recommend in its place.

The motherboard have fan controllers. Noctua fans are great, I use them myself and my PC is hardly audible but yeah they can be controlled via the motherboard without any other controller needed. If there are more fans than headers you can use PWM splitters to use two fans from one header, no problem.  

 

When it comes to 2,5" SSD I generally recommend the QVO drives you had listed. Buuut when they are 8TB... Maybe instead 4x Samsung 860 Evo 4TB?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07864XY8B?tag=pcp0f-21&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

Or 860 Pro but they're more expensive.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Solid-State-MZ-76P512B-EU/dp/B07BSQVH91/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3H498M9YLER2S&dchild=1&keywords=samsung%2B860%2Bpro&qid=1604868854&s=computers&sprefix=samsung%2B8%2Ccomputers%2C211&sr=1-1&th=1

 

I would go with either QVO or 4x 860 Evo. With 4x Evo they can be set up in RAID mode and they'll be faster than 2 QVO drives with the same amount of storage.

[DavidTheUnknownGuy]

Just now, aDoomGuy said:

The motherboard have fan controllers. Noctua fans are great, I use them myself and my PC is hardly audible but yeah they can be controlled via the motherboard without any other controller needed. If there are more fans than headers you can use PWM splitters to use two fans from one header, no problem.  

 

When it comes to 2,5" SSD I generally recommend the QVO drives you had listed. Buuut when they are 8TB... Maybe instead 4x Samsung 860 Evo 4TB?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07864XY8B?tag=pcp0f-21&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

Or 860 Pro but they're more expensive.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Solid-State-MZ-76P512B-EU/dp/B07BSQVH91/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3H498M9YLER2S&dchild=1&keywords=samsung%2B860%2Bpro&qid=1604868854&s=computers&sprefix=samsung%2B8%2Ccomputers%2C211&sr=1-1&th=1

 

I would go with either QVO or 4x 860 Evo. With 4x Evo they can be set up in RAID mode and they'll be faster than 2 QVO drives with the same amount of storage.

The case only has 2 mounts but I'll look into the samsung 860 pro

[aDoomGuy]

6 minutes ago, DavidTheUnknownGuy said:

The case only has 2 mounts but I'll look into the samsung 860 pro

You can buy a 2,5" adapter to fit in the 3,5" bay and that will let you fit 2x 2,5" in one 3,5" bay but still you only get 3x drives. Regardless I'd be relatively impressed if someone filled up 3x 4 TB and 2TB NVMe (14 TB) though.

[MadAnt250]

31 minutes ago, DavidTheUnknownGuy said:

What makes you think this.

This is a 6K pc for your son who has not started college yet, not a car but a pc, a 6+ grand pc. This just seems fishy.

 

Also, you could save some money by going with 2x2 packs of corsair ml 120 fans instead of the more expensive but better Noctua fans.

[DavidTheUnknownGuy]

18 minutes ago, aDoomGuy said:

You can buy a 2,5" adapter to fit in the 3,5" bay and that will let you fit 2x 2,5" in one 3,5" bay but still you only get 3x drives. Regardless I'd be relatively impressed if someone filled up 3x 4 TB and 2TB NVMe (14 TB) though.

This case has only 2 x 2.5 inch bays and the motherboard has 2 m.2 slots.

[DavidTheUnknownGuy]

14 minutes ago, MadAnt250 said:

This is a 6K pc for your son who has not started college yet, not a car but a pc, a 6+ grand pc. This just seems fishy.

 

Also, you could save some money by going with 2x2 packs of corsair ml 120 fans instead of the more expensive but better Noctua fans.

In england university starts at 18 while a driver license is only 17, anyway he has a car and needs to start standing on his own 2 feet, I'll have a look into the fans.

[MadAnt250]

Just now, DavidTheUnknownGuy said:

In england university starts at 18 while a driver license is only 17, anyway he has a car and needs to start standing on his own 2 feet

I don't know what college would require such an expensive PC. When I was in college I had a potato.

[aDoomGuy]

9 minutes ago, DavidTheUnknownGuy said:

This case has only 2 x 2.5 inch bays and the motherboard has 2 m.2 slots.

You can choose if you want to have 2x 2,5" or 1x 2,5" + 1x 3,5" according to the Lian Li website. 

Scroll down here and you will see. https://www.lian-li.com/pc-tu150/

 

However I noticed that the video card is recommended with 850W PSU so may want to bump that up a little. Corsair RMx 850 (80+ gold) will be good. Proper Japanese capacitors, good stable power delivery and silent.

[aDoomGuy]

1 minute ago, MadAnt250 said:

I don't know what college would require such an expensive PC. When I was in college I had a potato.

/shrug.. maybe he has too much money lol.

[DavidTheUnknownGuy]

9 minutes ago, MadAnt250 said:

I don't know what college would require such an expensive PC. When I was in college I had a potato.

 

7 minutes ago, aDoomGuy said:

/shrug.. maybe he has too much money lol.

Well, it is going to be one of the last things I am going to buy for him.

[DavidTheUnknownGuy]

8 minutes ago, aDoomGuy said:

You can choose if you want to have 2x 2,5" or 1x 2,5" + 1x 3,5" according to the Lian Li website. 

Scroll down here and you will see. https://www.lian-li.com/pc-tu150/

 

However I noticed that the video card is recommended with 850W PSU so may want to bump that up a little. Corsair RMx 850 (80+ gold) will be good. Proper Japanese capacitors, good stable power delivery and silent.

Ok, I'll add that to the list

[DavidTheUnknownGuy]

10 minutes ago, aDoomGuy said:

You can choose if you want to have 2x 2,5" or 1x 2,5" + 1x 3,5" according to the Lian Li website. 

Scroll down here and you will see. https://www.lian-li.com/pc-tu150/

 

However I noticed that the video card is recommended with 850W PSU so may want to bump that up a little. Corsair RMx 850 (80+ gold) will be good. Proper Japanese capacitors, good stable power delivery and silent.

I miss read what you said earlier, I don't know what takes up all of his storage already.

[MadAnt250]

Just now, DavidTheUnknownGuy said:

Well, it is going to be one of the last things I am going to buy for him.

I understand, although it seems nice, going to that extreme is well... a little overkill. You could probably buy a more than excellent system for way less. When coverted this into my usd it is around 8k, that is a lot of money for a college PC and it will just keep loosing it's value over time.  

 

Anyway, I am sure that is going to be a kickass gift.

[aDoomGuy]

28 minutes ago, DavidTheUnknownGuy said:

 

Well, it is going to be one of the last things I am going to buy for him.

I'm sure he will cherish it enormously. 

 

27 minutes ago, DavidTheUnknownGuy said:

I miss read what you said earlier, I don't know what takes up all of his storage already.

It is also possible to buy external drives if needed for some reason I can't tell as 10+ TB should be enough for absolute most. Regardless he can buy such drives later on himself even.

[DavidTheUnknownGuy]

35 minutes ago, MadAnt250 said:

I understand, although it seems nice, going to that extreme is well... a little overkill. You could probably buy a more than excellent system for way less. When coverted this into my usd it is around 8k, that is a lot of money for a college PC and it will just keep loosing it's value over time.  

 

Anyway, I am sure that is going to be a kickass gift.

Are you saying a less overkill computer is in order.

[DavidTheUnknownGuy]

43 minutes ago, aDoomGuy said:

I'm sure he will cherish it enormously. 

 

It is also possible to buy external drives if needed for some reason I can't tell as 10+ TB should be enough for absolute most. Regardless he can buy such drives later on himself even.

 

46 minutes ago, MadAnt250 said:

I understand, although it seems nice, going to that extreme is well... a little overkill. You could probably buy a more than excellent system for way less. When coverted this into my usd it is around 8k, that is a lot of money for a college PC and it will just keep loosing it's value over time.  

 

Anyway, I am sure that is going to be a kickass gift.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/vRcqmk

[DavidTheUnknownGuy]

Wrong psu, https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/R2vW4d

[aDoomGuy]

2 hours ago, DavidTheUnknownGuy said:

Wrong psu, https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/R2vW4d

Lookin fine. Don't forget anti static wrist strap when handling such expensive components.

 

2 hours ago, DavidTheUnknownGuy said:

Are you saying a less overkill computer is in order.

Cheaper components will do the same job, while this is what you want to give your son ..we're just saying that doesn't need the absolute best of the best components so to speak. Soon there will be new components that are better ...very soon actually. Anyway, point being.. It's not really worth spending to much on computers due to diminishing returns and the constant stream of new hardware but I know, a gift is a gift and so I help but at the same time saying this about the new hardware. You just ask if you want help with that or if you're happy like this then this will be an amazing setup for your lad for sure.