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The AIO is a big waste of money when the CPU cannot be overclocked.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

The AIO is a big waste of money when the CPU cannot be overclocked.

true, but air coolers dont look as good, and its good to have for a cpu upgrade. but do you reccomend any good air coolers?

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7 minutes ago, fffkylian said:

Please buy 3070 or a 3060 instead of the 2070 super and don't buy an aio, buy instead a noctua nhs-12 ir so

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Just now, No_Trash said:

Please buy 3070 or a 3060 instead of the 2070 super and don't buy an aio, buy instead a noctua nhs-12 ir so

ok, i completely forgot about 30 series

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11 minutes ago, fffkylian said:

 

Ryzen all day. Can go into more detail about the memory choice

 

that case has no airflow and will choke an AIO


Also might as well grab a 240hz monitor.

 

Just upgrade to a 3070 maybe, or grab a used RX 470-580 for under $100 in the meantime if you can find one.

 

and the $50 6 heat pipe cooler will be around the same level as that 240mm AIO. AIOs are mostly useful in smaller form factor cases where a taller air cooler won't fit.
 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KvwsJf

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600X 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($209.09 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright ARO-M14G 73.6 CFM CPU Cooler  ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($124.99 @ B&H)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  ($74.38 @ Amazon)
Storage: Patriot Burst 960 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($86.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: ASRock Radeon RX 5600 XT 6 GB Challenger D OC Video Card  ($273.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox MB511 ARGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($79.98 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($107.98 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus TUF GAMING VG259QM 24.5" 1920x1080 280 Hz Monitor  ($347.99 @ Staples)
Total: $1355.37
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What is your budget/country for your new PC?

 

what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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3 minutes ago, fffkylian said:

true, but air coolers dont look as good, and its good to have for a cpu upgrade. but do you reccomend any good air coolers?

NH-D15 chromax or Dark Rock Pro 4?

 

and the board does not support overclocking, meaning the memory kit can run at 2933 at most and K sku CPUs still cannot be overclocked.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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hes not going to overclock

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5 minutes ago, fffkylian said:

ok, i completely forgot about 30 series

Also, 30 series has higher PSU recomendations than 20 series, you might want to check that. 

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Just now, Deslumo said:

Also, 30 series has higher PSU recomendations than 20 series, you might want to check that. 

ok, but im going to have to wait 2 months to get one

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6 minutes ago, fffkylian said:

true, but air coolers dont look as good, and its good to have for a cpu upgrade. but do you reccomend any good air coolers?

1 minute ago, fffkylian said:

hes not going to overclock

Why not overclock the PC for him? It will give him a pretty big performance bump at 1080p and 1440p, not to mention being able to stream more easily.

 

In any case, there's changes to be made to that build. You're paying too much for multiple things and as a result you get a pretty underpowered GPU for high-end standards (2070 Super is equivalent to an old 1080 Ti).

 

This is what you can get with some tweaks:

 

 

The 3080 there is a placeholder for some kind of similar upcoming card (or a 3080 if availability becomes better).

 

Unfortunately because of the availability issues, and Big Navi coming soon (tm), right now is not the best time to build a computer. Not just that, there's a new generation of AMD CPUs coming on Nov 5 that might take the high end gaming crown from Intel, leaving the blue team biting the dust

We have a NEW and GLORIOUSER-ER-ER PSU Tier List Now. (dammit @LukeSavenije stop coming up with new ones)

You can check out the old one that gave joy to so many across the land here

 

Computer having a hard time powering on? Troubleshoot it with this guide. (Currently looking for suggestions to update it into the context of <current year> and make it its own thread)

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Chillinmachine: Noctua NH-C14S
Framepainting-inator: EVGA GTX 1080 Ti SC2 Hybrid

Attachcorethingy: Gigabyte H61M-S2V-B3

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Computerarmor: Silverstone RL06 "Lookalike"

Rememberdoogle: 1TB HDD + 120GB TR150 + 240 SSD Plus + 1TB MX500

AdditionalPylons: Phanteks AMP! 550W (based on Seasonic GX-550)

Letterpad: Rosewill Apollo 9100 (Cherry MX Red)

Buttonrodent: Razer Viper Mini + Huion H430P drawing Tablet

Auralnterface: Sennheiser HD 6xx

Liquidrectangles: LG 27UK850-W 4K HDR

 

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5 minutes ago, Energycore said:

right now is not the best time to build a computer.

Yes, Big Navi and Zen 3 are just around the corner. 5600x looks to be in the same range as the 10600K, maybe consider both. 

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2 minutes ago, Deslumo said:

Yes, Big Navi and Zen 3 are just around the corner. 5600x looks to be in the same range as the 10600K, maybe consider both. 

ok

 

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21 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

NH-D15 chromax or Dark Rock Pro 4?

 

and the board does not support overclocking, meaning the memory kit can run at 2933 at most and K sku CPUs still cannot be overclocked.

I wouldn't recommend a D15 to most people because it's really massive. Same for the DR Pro 4I'd recommend the U12s because it's still a good cooler that looks sick, but still performs very well. 

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1 minute ago, Deslumo said:

I wouldn't recommend a D15 to most people because it's really massive.

To an ATX box it isn't that heavy nor big, there's still room for routing cables and wires.

 

18 minutes ago, Deslumo said:

I'd recommend the U12s because it's still a good cooler that looks sick, but still performs very well. 

Expected you to say the U12A if size is that big of a deal, even though I disagree

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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1 hour ago, Jurrunio said:

To an ATX box it isn't that heavy nor big, there's still room for routing cables and wires.

 

Expected you to say the U12A if size is that big of a deal, even though I disagree

RAM compatibility for the D15 is an issue for people with tall modules. But then again, there are ITX builds that use the D15. 

U12A is a top-notch cooler. I think the signature color of Noctua might be a dealbreaker for some, which is why I also mentioned the U12s.

 

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