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Is there a cpu that has the best value? Is there one that can be overclocked to the same speed as another for cheaper? Interested in hearing what you guys think!

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The best value cpu is Ryzen 3600.

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Just now, SupaKomputa said:

The best value cpu is Ryzen 3600.

I was thinking that too. Do you think it's better to pay extra for the x or xt?

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1 minute ago, ZonalThrone said:

Is there a cpu that has the best value?

Depends on the workload. What's a good value for gaming may not be a good value for workstation.

 

For example, the R5 3600 is widely considered a great value for gaming and some productivity, but would not be a good value for 8k video rendering.

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It all depends what you're doing. The 3600 and 10600K are both contenders for gaming, the 3950X and Threadripper are good contenders for workstations, heck old Xeons are good value for upgrading old systems.

 

The days of overclocking one CPU to another are essentially over, since CPUs are basically maxed out out of the box these days.

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Just now, Grabhanem said:

It all depends what you're doing. The 3600 and 10600K are both contenders for gaming, the 3950X and Threadripper are good contenders for workstations, heck old Xeons are good value for upgrading old systems.

 

The days of overclocking one CPU to another are essentially over, since CPUs are basically maxed out out of the box these days.

 

is the 3600 overclockable then?

 

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1 minute ago, ZonalThrone said:

I was thinking that too. Do you think it's better to pay extra for the x or xt?

3600X is cheaper than the 3600 on Amazon right now, so it depends on the day for pricing.

 

Honestly, best value really depends on budget and need.  3400G is a fantastic value right now too,  for an APU.

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Just now, ZonalThrone said:

 

is the 3600 overclockable then?

 

Yes, but it doesn't gain much performance from it. Most of the gain on Ryzen comes from overclocking memory and fabric, where the 3600 and 3600X are essentially the same.

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3 minutes ago, ZonalThrone said:

I was thinking that too. Do you think it's better to pay extra for the x or xt?

Nope.

Just now, Dedayog said:

3600X is cheaper than the 3600 on Amazon right now, so it depends on the day for pricing.

Well in this case, get a 3600x.

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Just now, SupaKomputa said:

Nope.

Well in this case, get a 3600x.

on microcenter the 3600 is only 170 right now and the 3600x is like 200 so it is cheaper than amazon

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Just now, ZonalThrone said:

What would be recommended for cooling something like that?

The stock cooler is good enough, but for more cooling power i suggest getting a $30-40 heatpipe cooler like Hyper 212 or Noctua U12.

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1 minute ago, ZonalThrone said:

on microcenter the 3600 is only 170 right now and the 3600x is like 200 so it is cheaper than amazon

If you are lucky you may get a 3600 made in 2020 in week 14+ orso. These will perform better than even the 3600x in most cases. Even when overclocking. 

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1 minute ago, ZonalThrone said:

on microcenter the 3600 is only 170 right now and the 3600x is like 200 so it is cheaper than amazon

MC is in store only tho.  $179 actually.

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Just now, hollyh88 said:

If you are lucky you may get a 3600 made in 2020 in week 14+ orso. These will perform better than even the 3600x in most cases. Even when overclocking. 

how would you tell if it's a new one?

 

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Just now, ZonalThrone said:

how would you tell if it's a new one?

 

You cant u till you opened it and checked the number on the cpu itself sadly. However most ones in stores and stock for online purchases right now should be around that date. Meaning.. they will be better than what the 3600x can do. Unless of course you get a fairly new one but I doubt that 😉 

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Just now, ZonalThrone said:

Would it be worth spending extra to get an aio?

Not for that CPU. Only really with a high end Intel or ryzen 9 should you need an aio. 

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Just now, hollyh88 said:

You cant u till you opened it and checked the number on the cpu itself sadly. However most ones in stores and stock for online purchases right now should be around that date. Meaning.. they will be better than what the 3600x can do. Unless of course you get a fairly new one but I doubt that 😉 

Could the 3600x be new also?

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5 minutes ago, ZonalThrone said:

Could the 3600x be new also?

Yes, it could come from the same batch since the non x is pretty much identical in the design.

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1 minute ago, ZonalThrone said:

Also is a h80i v2 better than a hyper 212 evo?

Not really.  120mm AIO's are for small form factor cases usually.

 

Neither will outdo the stock cooler by much anyway.

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what if they were the same price? Someone near me has one they want to get rid of thats why im asking

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