Which mb for zen 3 ?

[gasolin]

which mb for zen 3 (B550,X570).

 

I want to make shure i have a mb that supports zen 3 now and not next year (b450,X470), i just don't know what mb to get, a god B550 mb cost as much as a X570 mb

 

So fare i have narrowed it down to a MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk, i want to stay under 200 euros or 180 £

[Haro]

Location exactly ? and what are you powering? 

as for zen 3 support, AMD has apparently released an agesa code update that added support for zen 3 before it was released but if the board happened to ship the old bios, if the board has a bios flashback button you can update the bios without having a cpu installed. 

again though, location and what are you powering?

[gasolin]

Denmark

The zen 3 ryzen 5000 cpu's are not released, im gonna use a ryzen 3000 cpu, if you have googled it you would know the MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk supports flash back with no cpu

 

Rx 5600 xt or something like a rtx 3060 or 2070 super,2080, 1 pci e 3.0 x 4 nvme ssd and 1 sata ssd

[Haro]

1 hour ago, gasolin said:

if you have googled it you would know the MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk supports flash back with no cpu

I know it does. i just said that if the board has a bios flashback button you can update the bios without having the cpu installed. 

1 hour ago, gasolin said:

Denmark

Spoiler

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
Motherboard	MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard	1115.00kr @ Alternate
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	1115.00kr
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-13 11:10 CEST+0200

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
Motherboard	Asus ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard	1574.00kr @ Alternate
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	1574.00kr
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-13 11:10 CEST+0200

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
Motherboard	Gigabyte B550 AORUS PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard	1398.00kr @ Dustin Home
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	1398.00kr
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-13 11:10 CEST+0200

 

Or the b550 tomahawk, all of these boards (including the tomahawk) are good. all of these should be around 140-200ish euros. 

[gasolin]

It's just that for the same money i can get a X570 mb

[Haro]

1 hour ago, gasolin said:

that for the same money i can get a X570 mb

Which board exactly? because i can't seem to find anything on the denmark pcpp that's decent and around 200 euros, if you want. 

the x570 tuf plus and the tomahawk are pretty good x570 boards if you can find them for around 200 euros, and the x570 aorus elite is also decent if you can't find either the tomahawk or the tuf. 

[gasolin]

im not going crazy, im not gonna use anything faster than a 6 core 5600x or if theres a good deal i might use a 3700x, like when people just have to sell there gpu to get a 30.. there might be people that just have to sell there 8 core ryzen  and might sell it for a good deal under the price of a 5600x (it's after all the same price for a new 3700x as a new 5600x so a 3700x has to be alot cheaper)

 

MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS,MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI,ASUS TUF Gaming X570-Plus if i where to get a M-Atx mb (B550) i would have more mb's to choose from.

[Haro]

1 hour ago, gasolin said:

MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS,MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI,ASUS TUF Gaming X570-Plus if i where to get a M-Atx mb (B550) i would have more mb's to choose from.

The gaming plus and the gaming edge and horrendous, the x570 tuf plus is pretty good. 

if you can go matx, the b550m mortar or the b550m tuf plus are good. 

 The boards i listed above (the b550 a pro, aorus pro, tomahawk, strix f) are good as well. 

[gasolin]

i can go m-atx but only B550 theres only  1 X570 mb

 

I prefer not to since i have the space for a atx mb

[Haro]

1 hour ago, gasolin said:

I prefer not to since i have the space for a atx mb

Then as i said, the b550 tomahawk is good if you can go for it, the x570 gaming edge wifi and the gaming plus are crap so don't consider those, the x570 tuf plus is good if you want to go for it. 

[gasolin]

Any cheaper alternative B550 than the b550 tomahawk

[Guest]

14 minutes ago, gasolin said:

Any cheaper alternative B550 than the b550 tomahawk

The MSI B550-A PRO

[gasolin]

5 hours ago, lee32uk said:

The MSI B550-A PRO

Any review of the mb ? (to compare it to other mb)

[Guest]

26 minutes ago, gasolin said:

Any review of the mb ? (to compare it to other mb)

Buildzoid goes over the MSI B550 boards

 

 

Hardware Unboxed also show VRM performance

 

 

[gasolin]

msi B550 a-pro looks pretty good in the vrm temps video

[Guest]

45 minutes ago, gasolin said:

msi B550 a-pro looks pretty good in the vrm temps video

Yeah it is solid for the price. It will handle a 3950X so no issue with whatever cpu you choose.

[gasolin]

2 minutes ago, lee32uk said:

Yeah it is solid for the price. It will handle a 3950X so no issue with whatever cpu you choose.

I don't know, the cheap msi X570 mb's are having a hard time handling an oc'ed 3900x (not that im gonna buy one)

 

 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9_E3h8bLp-TXr-0zTJFqqVxdCR9daIVNyMatydkpFA/htmlview#gid=639584818

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, gasolin said:

I don't know, the cheap msi X570 mb's are having a hard time handling an oc'ed 3900x (not that im gonna buy one)

 

 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9_E3h8bLp-TXr-0zTJFqqVxdCR9daIVNyMatydkpFA/htmlview#gid=639584818

The MSI X570 boards are well documented to be bad. Apart from the X570 Tomahawk, Unify, Ace, Creator and Godlike they should be avoided. They fixed the VRM issues with the B550 boards though.

[gasolin]

so the msi B550 a-pro is good enough ?