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I want to buy an Intel Core i5-10400F. Cooling SilentiumPC Fera 3 120mm. Cheapest motherboard: MSI B460M-A PRO. I'm looking for a better sound card than the motherboard. The motherboard has 1 Gbps internet? Memory: HyperX 16GB (1x16GB) 2400MHz CL14 Impact Black. Thermally conductive paste is: Thermal Grizzly Thermally conductive paste Kryonaut 1g Housing old Corsair 300r. Old SATA SSD. Old chieftec power supply 650 watts. Old DVD recorder. Hdd too. The power supply is 5 years old. I will buy a graphics card in the future. Gigabte RTX 3080 eagle oc.

 

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Frankly, that part selection makes barely any sense - an RTX 3080 paired with a locked i5 and B series board, slow single-channel memory, some old SSD, case and 5 year old power supply you haven't even given us the exact model of?..

 

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14 minutes ago, MiloszPL said:

want to buy an Intel Core i5-10400F. . Cheapest motherboard: MSI B460M-A PRO

why?

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $199.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard ASRock B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $82.99 @ Newegg
Memory Silicon Power XPOWER Turbine 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL19 Memory $51.99 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $334.97
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-04 13:07 EDT-0400  

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PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-10400 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor $179.98 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI B460M-A PRO Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard $74.98 @ Amazon
Memory ADATA XPG Z1 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 CL16 Memory $49.99 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $304.95
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-04 13:07 EDT-0400  

barely any increased cost for much better performance from Ryzen

 

7 minutes ago, MiloszPL said:

Will everything fit?

to test compatibility, you can use PCPartPicker.com

 

like this:

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PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $199.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard ASRock B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $82.99 @ Newegg
Memory Silicon Power XPOWER Turbine 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL19 Memory $51.99 @ Newegg
Video Card Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3080 10 GB AORUS MASTER Video Card  
Case Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case  
Power Supply Antec NeoECO Gold ZEN 600 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply $79.98 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $414.95
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-04 13:13 EDT-0400  

 

 

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 11 and Fedora Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

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2 minutes ago, MiloszPL said:

ryzen 3600 has similar performance to that of Intel. I want to save. The memory of the framework is enough for me to work well. Will everything fit?
 

you need to quote us so we can see your responses, or use @Mateyyy

 

check some benchmarks

 

you can see that the 10400 is only good when paired with a really expensive motherboard and fast memory. saving money here will hurt you in the long run, because you will be losing performance from your 3080.

 

also, your power supply should be replaced as well. you didn't list the model but if it's a budget unit from at least 5 years ago, I wouldn't trust it with a 3080.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 11 and Fedora Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

PSU tier list

How many watts do I need?

PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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Just now, MiloszPL said:

I play 4k.

you need to quote us so we can see your responses.

 

you will still lose performance

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 11 and Fedora Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

PSU tier list

How many watts do I need?

PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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On 10/4/2020 at 12:27 PM, MiloszPL said:

The computer will not be filmed. I'm afraid of damage.

 

please use this button on one of our posts, or else we will not get a notification.

 

I do not know what you mean by "filmed" but I don't think it matters. Damage also is not going to happen.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 11 and Fedora Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

PSU tier list

How many watts do I need?

PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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1 minute ago, Fasauceome said:

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użyj tego przycisku w jednym z naszych postów, w przeciwnym razie nie otrzymamy powiadomienia.

 

Nie wiem, co masz na myśli, mówiąc „sfilmowany”, ale nie sądzę, żeby to miało znaczenie. Obrażenia też się nie wydarzy.

It's about overclocking the CPU. Can you explain to me why not buy Intel? I don't know English, I'm Polish.

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7 minutes ago, MiloszPL said:

It's about overclocking the CPU. Can you explain to me why not buy Intel? I don't know English, I'm Polish.

The i5-10400 is a really bad CPU. With a cheap motherboard you are stuck with slow ram, maximum of 2666MHz, and it hurts performance a lot. But with almost every AMD motherboard, you can enable fast ram for cheap, usually 3000 or 3200MHz is pretty reasonable.

 

If you were buying the i5-10600K, that would be a different story, but it seems like you are not interested in the more expensive options like that (it is a large price increase, after all.)

 

Unfortunately, PCPartPicker.com doesn't have listings for Poland prices right now, but here is Germany prices, I hope they are similar:

Intel:

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PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-10400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor €156.00 @ ARLT
Motherboard ASRock B460M-HDV Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard €78.50 @ Computeruniverse
Memory G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 CL16 Memory €56.70 @ Computeruniverse
Video Card Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3080 10 GB AORUS MASTER Video Card  
Case Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case  
Power Supply Antec NeoECO Gold ZEN 600 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total €291.20
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-04 19:36 CEST+0200  

 

AMD:

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PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor €169.90 @ Mindfactory
Motherboard MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard €72.79 @ Computeruniverse
Memory G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory €59.38 @ LK-Webservices
Video Card Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3080 10 GB AORUS MASTER Video Card  
Case Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case  
Power Supply Antec NeoECO Gold ZEN 600 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total €302.07
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-04 19:36 CEST+0200  

 

 

 

like before, very small price increase for a pretty good performance increase. 

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 11 and Fedora Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

PSU tier list

How many watts do I need?

PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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9 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

I5-10400 to naprawdę zły procesor. Z tanią płytą główną utkniesz z powolną pamięcią RAM, maksymalnie 2666 MHz, co bardzo obniża wydajność. Ale z prawie każdą płytą główną AMD można włączyć szybką pamięć RAM za tanią, zwykle 3000 lub 3200 MHz jest całkiem rozsądne.

 

Gdybyś kupował i5-10600K, byłaby to inna historia, ale wygląda na to, że nie interesują Cię takie droższe opcje (w końcu jest to duży wzrost ceny).

 

Niestety na PCPartPicker.com nie ma obecnie ofert cen w Polsce, ale tutaj są ceny w Niemczech, mam nadzieję, że są one podobne:

Intel:

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PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-10400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor €156.00 @ ARLT
Motherboard ASRock B460M-HDV Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard €78.50 @ Computeruniverse
Memory G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 CL16 Memory €56.70 @ Computeruniverse
Video Card Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3080 10 GB AORUS MASTER Video Card  
Case Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case  
Power Supply Antec NeoECO Gold ZEN 600 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total €291.20
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-04 19:36 CEST+0200  

 

AMD:

  Odkryj ukrytą zawartość
PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor €169.90 @ Mindfactory
Motherboard MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard €72.79 @ Computeruniverse
Memory G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory €59.38 @ LK-Webservices
Video Card Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3080 10 GB AORUS MASTER Video Card  
Case Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case  
Power Supply Antec NeoECO Gold ZEN 600 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total €302.07
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-04 19:36 CEST+0200  

 

 

 

tak jak poprzednio, bardzo mały wzrost ceny za całkiem niezły wzrost wydajności. 

Everything will fit? I wanted to be sure. Can someone take a peek?

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4 minutes ago, MiloszPL said:

Everything will fit? I wanted to be sure. Can someone take a peek?

the 300R is not a small case, it would have no problems.

 

is there something specific you were worried about? something you thought was too big?

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 11 and Fedora Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

PSU tier list

How many watts do I need?

PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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3 minutes ago, MiloszPL said:

and the memory of the framework?

I'm sorry, I don't know what you mean by "framework" here

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 11 and Fedora Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

PSU tier list

How many watts do I need?

PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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1 hour ago, Fasauceome said:

I do not know what you mean by "filmed" but I don't think it matters. Damage also is not going to happen.

By "filmed" he meant overclocked. Apparently he first writes his posts in polish, then puts them through Google Translate to English and posts that. The polish word "kręcony" translates to both filmed and overclocked.

 

 

Use this web store to make a build from parts available in Poland: https://www.morele.net/kategoria/procesory-45/?konfigurator=konfigurator-zestawu-komputerowego#configurator

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33 minutes ago, MiloszPL said:

How do I see that this ram is for pc? The one I gave at the beginning of the topic?

they both use DDR4 so it would be the same, I just don't recommend one ram stick for a gaming computer

 

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 11 and Fedora Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

PSU tier list

How many watts do I need?

PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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4 minutes ago, MiloszPL said:

https://www.x-kom.pl/p/335460-pamiec-ram-sodimm-ddr4-hyperx-16gb-1x16gb-2400mhz-cl14-impact-black.html

that is "so-dimm," for laptops. it's too small.

https://www.morele.net/pamiec-patriot-signature-premium-ddr4-8-gb-2666mhz-cl19-psp48g2666kh1-6084766/

try this, normal dimm size

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 11 and Fedora Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

PSU tier list

How many watts do I need?

PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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