boot Total storage failure?

[Daan._official]

Hello everyone, I wanted to upgrade my rig. Changed out CPU and PSU. Then suddenly pc doesn't recognize any storage devices anymore (1 Boot SSD and 2 HDD). All SATA. Tried all ports, changed both power and SATA cables. 

Cleared CMOS, tried different modes in BIOS. No avail. 

 

Then I tried my old PSU and that doesn't work either. Tried to change sata to usb, doesn't work either. 

 

The I plugged all drives with 2 different usb cables in my mother's laptop. Doesn't recognize it either. 

 

My pc does recognize a USB device and I plugged my brothers USB only hard drive, that does seem to recognize it. 

 

Does this mean all my hard drives are dead? 

 

[WereCatf]

5 minutes ago, Daan._official said:

The I plugged all drives with 2 different usb cables in my mother's laptop.

Are they 3.5" - drives? Those SATA->USB-adapters are meant for 2.5"-drives, they can't power 3.5"-drives.

[Daan._official]

1 minute ago, WereCatf said:

Are they 3.5" - drives? Those SATA->USB-adapters are meant for 2.5"-drives, they can't power 3.5"-drives.

Oh really. Didn't know that. But it does seem to "turn on" when I plug it in? 

[WereCatf]

1 minute ago, Daan._official said:

Oh really. Didn't know that. But it does seem to "turn on" when I plug it in? 

The drive or the adapter? Two different things.

[Daan._official]

Just now, WereCatf said:

The drive or the adapter? Two different things.

Both. I hear it "whizzing". Anyway the SSD is 2.5 inch as well

[Daan._official]

1 minute ago, Daan._official said:

Both. I hear it "whizzing". Anyway the SSD is 2.5 inch as well

I have to add. I originally used that cable for an old laptop SSHD I got from a friend. That suddenly didn't get recognized either. 

[WereCatf]

Just now, Daan._official said:

Both. I hear it "whizzing". Anyway the SSD is 2.5 inch as well

Then I guess your drives are dead, indeed. Did you accidentally plug e.g. a molex-cable the wrong way around? That'd send 12V to 5V-rail and could easily break drives.

[Daan._official]

1 minute ago, WereCatf said:

Then I guess your drives are dead, indeed. Did you accidentally plug e.g. a molex-cable the wrong way around? That'd send 12V to 5V-rail and could easily break drives.

No idea, I don't think so but it could be a possibility. 

[KangUsapEmenq]

8 minutes ago, Daan._official said:

Oh really. Didn't know that. But it does seem to "turn on" when I plug it in? 

Yes, it is. But with not enough power if you're ONLY using those for 3.5" drives.

 

 

 

The 3.5" should have molex power connected on it, you can use the PSU to turn it on.

 

The SSD one should works, tho.

 

3 minutes ago, WereCatf said:

Did you accidentally plug e.g. a molex-cable the wrong way around?

And I don't think he'd be do it wrong way around, molex connectors have it's own side, except if there's something wrong with the PSU.

[WereCatf]

3 minutes ago, dhannemon13 said:

And I don't think he'd be do it wrong way around, molex connectors have it's own side, except if there's something wrong with the PSU.

It's actually pretty easy to plug them the wrong way around. They won't lock properly, but they can still make a connection and ruin your day.

[Daan._official]

So I think I have indeed managed to destroy all of my drives. Just plugged in a spare HDD through SATA and it works fine. That's a shame but nonetheless I can move on. I can't think of a moment where I put power on with the wrong cables but who knows. 

[KangUsapEmenq]

4 minutes ago, WereCatf said:

It's actually pretty easy to plug them the wrong way around. They won't lock properly, but they can still make a connection and ruin your day.

Welp I usually can't get it in if I got it on the wrong side. I ever killed a 3.5" 250 GB drive because I stupidly re-wire on the wrong one wire. 5V and 12V rails got connected and *poof* on the power supply and the drive that aren't even spinning.

 

But, welp, it might be on OP, unluckily.

[KangUsapEmenq]

2 minutes ago, Daan._official said:

So I think I have indeed managed to destroy all of my drives. Just plugged in a spare HDD through SATA and it works fine. That's a shame but nonetheless I can move on. I can't think of a moment where I put power on with the wrong cables but who knows. 

Man, I know the feel of the loss. My condolences for the drives.

 

Sincerely,

the boi who did killed 4 drives on the past.

 

Anyway you did backup the important files, don't you? If not, daily cloud backup is the good way to go next time.

[Daan._official]

2 minutes ago, dhannemon13 said:

Welp I usually can't get it in if I got it on the wrong side. I ever killed a 3.5" 250 GB drive because I stupidly re-wire on the wrong one wire. 5V and 12V rails got connected and *poof* on the power supply and the drive that aren't even spinning.

 

But, welp, it might be on OP, 

1 minute ago, dhannemon13 said:

Man, I know the feel of the loss. My condolences for the drives.

 

Sincerely,

the boi who did killed 4 drives on the past.

 

Anyway you did backup the important files, don't you? If not, daily cloud backup is the good way to go next time.

I don't really have any important files so that's alright. Just have to install everything all over again which is annoying. But that's life.

 

[Daan._official]

18 minutes ago, dhannemon13 said:

Man, I know the feel of the loss. My condolences for the drives.

 

Sincerely,

the boi who did killed 4 drives on the past.

 

Anyway you did backup the important files, don't you? If not, daily cloud backup is the good way to go next time.

Is there a way to revive an SSD? It mean its not mechanical. I don't care about  the HDD's much they are old and slow anyway 

[KangUsapEmenq]

16 minutes ago, Daan._official said:

Is there a way to revive an SSD? It mean its not mechanical. I don't care about  the HDD's much they are old and slow anyway 

Well, unfortunately, entirely of SSDs are electrical devices, and means more susceptible from electrical damage, afaik.

 

If even you can revive one, I don't think you could use it long-term as the NAND memory or the controller potentially would be permanently damaged anyway.

 

But if it's still on warranty, you probably can ask for RMA if possible, I dunno if they accept warranties if the fault is on yourself (welp you basically killed 3 drives in one shot), but it doesn't hurt to try anyway.

[Daan._official]

15 minutes ago, dhannemon13 said:

Well, unfortunately, entirely of SSDs are electrical devices, and means more susceptible from electrical damage, afaik.

 

If even you can revive one, I don't think you could use it long-term as the NAND memory or the controller potentially would be permanently damaged anyway.

 

But if it's still on warranty, you probably can ask for RMA if possible, I dunno if they accept warranties if the fault is on yourself (welp you basically killed 3 drives in one shot), but it doesn't hurt to try anyway.

I got it secondhand, so no warranties. But that's alright, part of the risk of buying secondhand. Great deals, but sometimes you have bad luck. I'll get a new one now. 

[KangUsapEmenq]

3 minutes ago, Daan._official said:

I got it secondhand, so no warranties. But that's alright, part of the risk of buying secondhand. Great deals, but sometimes you have bad luck. I'll get a new one now. 

Welp, get a new one then. Actually it would be fine to use secondhand as long as it's not used brutally (you can always check the drive SMART status, it got the amount of writes performed). But still, rather to get the new one for the warranty. 

 

Samsung/Crucial/Adata made the good one afaik, check for the SSD tier list thread on the forum for at least a good reference. But it wouldn't hurt to get the budget one (welp I got one on Tier E here unfortunately) if it restraints enough.