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Budget (including currency): $1800 CAD

Country: Canada

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Triple A games mostly, and SOME workstation stuff for coding and whatnot.

Other details: This is my current parts list: I got this as a hand-me down (I honestly don't know much about PCs, just been upgrading the GPU since that seemed like the best idea). My main plan is to game comfortably at 1440p/144hz, but recently, I've been noticing that I am getting A LOT of stutters at 1080p in most single player games and just inconsistent frames, which makes some games basically unplayable. So I am not sure how well this system is gonna hold up for 1440p, especially for Cyberpunk.

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i7-5960X 3 GHz 8-Core Processor Purchased For $0.00
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-X99-UD4 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard Purchased For $0.00
Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2133 CL13 Memory Purchased For $0.00
Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2133 CL13 Memory Purchased For $0.00
Storage Crucial MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive Purchased For $0.00
Storage Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Purchased For $0.00
Video Card EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB BLACK GAMING Video Card Purchased For $0.00
Case Corsair 780T ATX Full Tower Case Purchased For $0.00
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA P2 850 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply Purchased For $0.00
Custom Custom EKWB Loop Purchased
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $0.00
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-03 00:16 EDT-0400  

 

I know the build looks good, but it definitely doesn't feel like its performing how it should be, which is weird.

My plan was to go with this build, just to have a more recent build that would be capable of 1440p/144hz:

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $426.19 @ Vuugo
CPU Cooler NZXT Kraken X53 73.11 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $169.99 @ Newegg Canada
Motherboard MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard $214.99 @ Canada Computers
Memory G.Skill Trident Z Neo 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory $157.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage Crucial MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive Purchased For $0.00
Storage Crucial P1 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $76.98 @ Amazon Canada
Storage Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Purchased For $0.00
Video Card EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB BLACK GAMING Video Card Purchased For $0.00
Case Phanteks Eclipse P400A Digital ATX Mid Tower Case $124.99 @ Canada Computers
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA P2 850 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply Purchased For $0.00
Monitor LG 27GL850-B 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor $686.99 @ PC-Canada
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $1858.12
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-03 00:21 EDT-0400  

So, my main dilemma is basically, is it worth upgrading the 5960x if I am planning to game at 1440p/144hz?

I've been thinking of maybe just scrapping the idea and trying to get a 3080 and upgrade just the GPU while also buying the 1440p monitor, which would amount to around the same price as me upgrading the entire system without a 3080.

 

So my main question I guess, how much performance increase would I be expecting if I changed platforms to AMD with the future build I posted at 1440p? And if it's not worth it, should I just upgrade to a 3080 and the 1440p monitor by themselves.

 

Sorry for the dumb question, I am just stuck on which option to take since this is technically going to be my first time building a brand new PC on my own haha. But I appreciate any answers!

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I certainly wouldn't get a 3700x, the 4700x is just around the corner. Why do you want a 500GB NVME drive? I wouldn't bother unless you're getting at least a 1TB.

I'd also wait for Black Friday. You'll be able to save a ton on the monitor.

CPU: Ryzen 9 5900 Cooler: EVGA CLC280 Motherboard: Gigabyte B550i Pro AX RAM: Kingston Hyper X 32GB 3200mhz

Storage: WD 750 SE 500GB, WD 730 SE 1TB GPU: EVGA RTX 3070 Ti PSU: Corsair SF750 Case: Streacom DA2

Monitor: LG 27GL83B Mouse: Razer Basilisk V2 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red Speakers: Mackie CR5BT

 

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RAM: G.Skill RipJaws 16GB DDR3 Storage: Transcend MSA370 128GB GPU: Intel 4400 Graphics

PSU: Integrated Case: Shuttle XPC Slim

Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

Budget Rig 1 - Sold For $750 Profit

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CPU: Intel i5 7600k Cooler: CryOrig H7 Motherboard: MSI Z270 M5

RAM: Crucial LPX 16GB DDR4 Storage: Intel S3510 800GB GPU: Nvidia GTX 980

PSU: Corsair CX650M Case: EVGA DG73

Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

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CPU: Intel i5 4690k Cooler: Corsair H100i V2 Motherboard: MSI Z97i AC ITX

RAM: Crucial Ballistix 16GB DDR3 Storage: Kingston Fury 240GB GPU: Asus Strix GTX 970

PSU: Thermaltake TR2 Case: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ITX

Monitor: Dell P2214H x2 Mouse: Logitech MX Master Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

 

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zen 3 announces on the 8th, i would wait and see what the 5700x and 5600 cpus look like.

I could use some help with this!

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1 minute ago, dizmo said:

4700x

its bassically confirmed to be ryzen 5000 for zen 3.

I could use some help with this!

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please, pm me if you would like to contribute to my gpu bios database (includes overclocking bios, stock bios, and upgrades to gpus via modding)

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My beautiful, but not that powerful, main PC:

prior build:

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Oh yeah, sorry I should have mentioned that I put the 3700x as more of a placeholder for now, I'll definitely wait for the announcement to see what the new CPUs will be like.

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6 minutes ago, dizmo said:

I certainly wouldn't get a 3700x, the 4700x is just around the corner. Why do you want a 500GB NVME drive? I wouldn't bother unless you're getting at least a 1TB.

I'd also wait for Black Friday. You'll be able to save a ton on the monitor.

Okay, I'll wait for Black Friday to get the monitor!

And I just wanted the NVME just as extra storage for a few games while also keeping the other 500GB SSD. But I'll see if I can bump it up to 1tb

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2 minutes ago, deadqoop said:

Okay, I'll wait for Black Friday to get the monitor!

And I just wanted the NVME just as extra storage for a few games while also keeping the other 500GB SSD. But I'll see if I can bump it up to 1tb

If you wait until Black Friday it'll be easy. I wouldn't bother with an NVME drive unless it's the same price as a SATA one for games, there's virtually no difference.

CPU: Ryzen 9 5900 Cooler: EVGA CLC280 Motherboard: Gigabyte B550i Pro AX RAM: Kingston Hyper X 32GB 3200mhz

Storage: WD 750 SE 500GB, WD 730 SE 1TB GPU: EVGA RTX 3070 Ti PSU: Corsair SF750 Case: Streacom DA2

Monitor: LG 27GL83B Mouse: Razer Basilisk V2 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red Speakers: Mackie CR5BT

 

MiniPC - Sold for $100 Profit

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CPU: Intel i3 4160 Cooler: Integrated Motherboard: Integrated

RAM: G.Skill RipJaws 16GB DDR3 Storage: Transcend MSA370 128GB GPU: Intel 4400 Graphics

PSU: Integrated Case: Shuttle XPC Slim

Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

Budget Rig 1 - Sold For $750 Profit

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CPU: Intel i5 7600k Cooler: CryOrig H7 Motherboard: MSI Z270 M5

RAM: Crucial LPX 16GB DDR4 Storage: Intel S3510 800GB GPU: Nvidia GTX 980

PSU: Corsair CX650M Case: EVGA DG73

Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

OG Gaming Rig - Gone

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CPU: Intel i5 4690k Cooler: Corsair H100i V2 Motherboard: MSI Z97i AC ITX

RAM: Crucial Ballistix 16GB DDR3 Storage: Kingston Fury 240GB GPU: Asus Strix GTX 970

PSU: Thermaltake TR2 Case: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ITX

Monitor: Dell P2214H x2 Mouse: Logitech MX Master Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

 

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Just now, dizmo said:

If you wait until Black Friday it'll be easy. I wouldn't bother with an NVME drive unless it's the same price as a SATA one for games, there's virtually no difference.

Okay, I'll just stick with SATA then for games. I heard NVMEs were super super fast so I thought it might benefit me haha.

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holy shit, i wish i got a 2080 super build as a hand me down lmao

 

12 minutes ago, deadqoop said:

Okay, I'll just stick with SATA then for games. I heard NVMEs were super super fast so I thought it might benefit me haha.

diminishing returns, and lack of developer support in games. games just dont utilize the extra resources yet. they may eventually but we dont know when and to what extent. its nice having no cables for drives though

topics i need help on:

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my "oops i bought intel right before zen 3 releases" build

CPU: Ryzen 5 3600 (placeholder)

GPU: Gigabyte 980ti Xtreme (also placeholder), deshroud w/ generic 1200rpm 120mm fans x2, stock bios 130% power, no voltage offset: +70 core +400 mem 

Memory: 2x16gb GSkill Trident Z RGB 3600C16, 14-15-30-288@1.45v

Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming

Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S w/ white chromax bling
OS Drive: Samsung PM981 1tb (OEM 970 Evo)

Storage Drive: XPG SX8200 Pro 2tb

Backup Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 4TB

PSU: Seasonic Prime Ultra Titanium 750W w/ black/white Cablemod extensions
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Dark (to be replaced with a good case shortly)

basically everything was bought used off of reddit or here, only new component was the case. absolutely nutty deals for some of these parts, ill have to tally it all up once it's "done" :D 

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alternative monitors btw 

 

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/DjH8TW/viewsonic-vx2758-2kp-mhd-270-2560x1440-144-hz-monitor-vx2758-2kp-mhd

 

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/pGqBD3/asus-tuf-gaming-vg27aq-270-2560x1440-165-hz-monitor-vg27aq

 

the changes id make if i were you

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-10600K 4.1 GHz 6-Core Processor $372.75 @ shopRBC
CPU Cooler NZXT Kraken X63 98.17 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $202.99 @ PC-Canada
Motherboard MSI MPG Z490 GAMING PLUS ATX LGA1200 Motherboard $234.30 @ Vuugo
Memory G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory $189.99 @ Canada Computers
Storage Crucial MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive Purchased For $0.00
Storage Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Purchased For $0.00
Video Card EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB BLACK GAMING Video Card Purchased For $0.00
Case Phanteks Eclipse P400A Digital ATX Mid Tower Case $124.99 @ Canada Computers
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA P2 850 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply Purchased For $0.00
Monitor ViewSonic VX2758-2KP-MHD 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor $412.99 @ PC-Canada
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $1538.01
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-03 01:09 EDT-0400  

assuming zen 3 was cancelled tomorrow lol, this would be the best bang for your buck. that being said zen 3 is probably gonna kick ass so id personally go ahead and get everything set up for a zen 3 cpu and just use a 3600 as a placeholder

topics i need help on:

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my "oops i bought intel right before zen 3 releases" build

CPU: Ryzen 5 3600 (placeholder)

GPU: Gigabyte 980ti Xtreme (also placeholder), deshroud w/ generic 1200rpm 120mm fans x2, stock bios 130% power, no voltage offset: +70 core +400 mem 

Memory: 2x16gb GSkill Trident Z RGB 3600C16, 14-15-30-288@1.45v

Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming

Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S w/ white chromax bling
OS Drive: Samsung PM981 1tb (OEM 970 Evo)

Storage Drive: XPG SX8200 Pro 2tb

Backup Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 4TB

PSU: Seasonic Prime Ultra Titanium 750W w/ black/white Cablemod extensions
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Dark (to be replaced with a good case shortly)

basically everything was bought used off of reddit or here, only new component was the case. absolutely nutty deals for some of these parts, ill have to tally it all up once it's "done" :D 

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18 minutes ago, deadqoop said:

Okay, I'll just stick with SATA then for games. I heard NVMEs were super super fast so I thought it might benefit me haha.

Yeah, not really. They benchmark high in synthetic workloads but for gaming I wouldn't even bother. Sometimes they're the same price or lower though, and if that's the case then might as well save the 0.5 seconds of loading 😛

5 minutes ago, VeganJoy said:

diminishing returns, and lack of developer support in games. games just dont utilize the extra resources yet. they may eventually but we dont know when and to what extent. its nice having no cables for drives though

You can have no cables with SATA drives too ;)

CPU: Ryzen 9 5900 Cooler: EVGA CLC280 Motherboard: Gigabyte B550i Pro AX RAM: Kingston Hyper X 32GB 3200mhz

Storage: WD 750 SE 500GB, WD 730 SE 1TB GPU: EVGA RTX 3070 Ti PSU: Corsair SF750 Case: Streacom DA2

Monitor: LG 27GL83B Mouse: Razer Basilisk V2 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red Speakers: Mackie CR5BT

 

MiniPC - Sold for $100 Profit

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CPU: Intel i3 4160 Cooler: Integrated Motherboard: Integrated

RAM: G.Skill RipJaws 16GB DDR3 Storage: Transcend MSA370 128GB GPU: Intel 4400 Graphics

PSU: Integrated Case: Shuttle XPC Slim

Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

Budget Rig 1 - Sold For $750 Profit

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CPU: Intel i5 7600k Cooler: CryOrig H7 Motherboard: MSI Z270 M5

RAM: Crucial LPX 16GB DDR4 Storage: Intel S3510 800GB GPU: Nvidia GTX 980

PSU: Corsair CX650M Case: EVGA DG73

Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

OG Gaming Rig - Gone

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CPU: Intel i5 4690k Cooler: Corsair H100i V2 Motherboard: MSI Z97i AC ITX

RAM: Crucial Ballistix 16GB DDR3 Storage: Kingston Fury 240GB GPU: Asus Strix GTX 970

PSU: Thermaltake TR2 Case: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ITX

Monitor: Dell P2214H x2 Mouse: Logitech MX Master Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

 

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Just now, dizmo said:

You can have no cables with SATA drives too ;)

technically yes but a lot of boards these days dont support b+m key drives (sata m.2), only m key which is nvme. and those are usually close in price as a result of the form factor

topics i need help on:

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my "oops i bought intel right before zen 3 releases" build

CPU: Ryzen 5 3600 (placeholder)

GPU: Gigabyte 980ti Xtreme (also placeholder), deshroud w/ generic 1200rpm 120mm fans x2, stock bios 130% power, no voltage offset: +70 core +400 mem 

Memory: 2x16gb GSkill Trident Z RGB 3600C16, 14-15-30-288@1.45v

Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming

Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S w/ white chromax bling
OS Drive: Samsung PM981 1tb (OEM 970 Evo)

Storage Drive: XPG SX8200 Pro 2tb

Backup Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 4TB

PSU: Seasonic Prime Ultra Titanium 750W w/ black/white Cablemod extensions
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Dark (to be replaced with a good case shortly)

basically everything was bought used off of reddit or here, only new component was the case. absolutely nutty deals for some of these parts, ill have to tally it all up once it's "done" :D 

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22 minutes ago, VeganJoy said:

holy shit, i wish i got a 2080 super build as a hand me down lmao

 

diminishing returns, and lack of developer support in games. games just dont utilize the extra resources yet. they may eventually but we dont know when and to what extent. its nice having no cables for drives though

Oh haha, I wish I got the 2080 Super. I got the rest of the system, I just upgraded the GPU myself haha.

 

And okay, yeah fair enough about the drive thing!

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22 minutes ago, VeganJoy said:

alternative monitors btw 

 

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/DjH8TW/viewsonic-vx2758-2kp-mhd-270-2560x1440-144-hz-monitor-vx2758-2kp-mhd

 

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/pGqBD3/asus-tuf-gaming-vg27aq-270-2560x1440-165-hz-monitor-vg27aq

 

the changes id make if i were you

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-10600K 4.1 GHz 6-Core Processor $372.75 @ shopRBC
CPU Cooler NZXT Kraken X63 98.17 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $202.99 @ PC-Canada
Motherboard MSI MPG Z490 GAMING PLUS ATX LGA1200 Motherboard $234.30 @ Vuugo
Memory G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory $189.99 @ Canada Computers
Storage Crucial MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive Purchased For $0.00
Storage Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Purchased For $0.00
Video Card EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB BLACK GAMING Video Card Purchased For $0.00
Case Phanteks Eclipse P400A Digital ATX Mid Tower Case $124.99 @ Canada Computers
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA P2 850 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply Purchased For $0.00
Monitor ViewSonic VX2758-2KP-MHD 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor $412.99 @ PC-Canada
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $1538.01
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-03 01:09 EDT-0400  

assuming zen 3 was cancelled tomorrow lol, this would be the best bang for your buck. that being said zen 3 is probably gonna kick ass so id personally go ahead and get everything set up for a zen 3 cpu and just use a 3600 as a placeholder

Okay yeah, I'll definitely wait for zen 3! Thanks for the build, I'll take a look : )

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