worth moving to 2011?

[Viddiecent]

So,

 

I thought i'd elaborate here before I go any further.

I'm gonna be using it for mostly gaming would game on average 4-6hrs a day after work i have $900 to potentially spend on this,

but i'm unsure the main reason I want to move to 2011 is full sata 3 on all three lanes because of the fact that I only get 2 on one chipset with my 3770K and that makes it difficult to make a decent array for me ie my 2x1TB raptors for game storage and raided Evo 840 120GBs for some decent speeds but for obvious reasons my raptors are performing crap, a friend has i7-3820 which is pretty much a 3770 I know but I kinda want the extra sata $150nz which is pretty compelling and its not like I need to OC because its pretty powerful. so yeah...

 

Thanks for any advice

 

[SAV1OUR]

only move to 2011 if your going to be doing editing work otherwise stick to the 3770k its fine cpu for gaming 

[Guest]

X79 is only 2 SATA 3 and 4 SATA 2. 

[zapsyou]

If you want more sata your better off moving to haswell Z87 with 6 sata 3 nativley

[ericlee30]

X79 is only 2 SATA 3 and 4 SATA 2. 

 

 

If you want more sata your better off moving to haswell Z87 with 6 sata 3 nativley

Unless OP is interested in getting one of 3 boards.

 

1) ASUS X79-Deluxe- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132047

 

2) ASUS X79 Rampage IV Black- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132053

 

3) EVGA X79 Dark- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188131

[Viddiecent]

Yeah was kinda wondering too if haswell would be worthwhile

[Analog]

Yeah was kinda wondering too if haswell would be worthwhile

 

In your particular case I think that going Haswell will be a better idea, since the good LGA 2011 boards are quite expensive and you are only planing on getting a 3820. Oh, and the 3820 is not equal to a 3770K, but to a 2700K, because it's Sandy-E, not Ivy-E. 

 

PS: I have the i7 3820 in my rig, because my 3930K died and I kind of needed something to run my computer with, otherwise I would never have bought this processor, it makes no sense at all. 

[Jumper118]

So,

 

I thought i'd elaborate here before I go any further.

I'm gonna be using it for mostly gaming would game on average 4-6hrs a day after work i have $900 to potentially spend on this,

but i'm unsure the main reason I want to move to 2011 is full sata 3 on all three lanes because of the fact that I only get 2 on one chipset with my 3770K and that makes it difficult to make a decent array for me ie my 2x1TB raptors for game storage and raided Evo 840 120GBs for some decent speeds but for obvious reasons my raptors are performing crap, a friend has i7-3820 which is pretty much a 3770 I know but I kinda want the extra sata $150nz which is pretty compelling and its not like I need to OC because its pretty powerful. so yeah...

 

Thanks for any advice

you only need sata 3 for ssd's, sata 2 won't bottleneck any hdd's as it is 375MB/s and i haven't seen any hdd's do over 150MB/s.

[Priller]

Possible to wait til X99 platform? It should give more flexibility in the future.

[BrightCandle]

X79 is worth it for a few reason and only these reasons:

- You have a compelling reason for 6 cores, gaming isn't one of them. Mostly professional applications.

- You need lots and lots of RAM, like 64GB of RAM.

- You really need lots of PCI-E 3.0 lanes, such as having 4 graphics cards or other high usage cards like SATA cards or 10 gbit networking.

 

For all other usages you'll find haswell is a more modern platform that has a faster CPU and is better and cheaper.

[Faa]

Why not replace your raptors with 2 Crucial 960GB's? Theyre around 720$ for 2 and they will last you longer than x79 would. You should have 2 Asmedia sata 3 ports and 2 Intel sata 3, just use the asmedia for your storage ssds..

[Viddiecent]

Hey guys sorry for the late reply, night shifts... ugh

 

 

you only need sata 3 for ssd's, sata 2 won't bottleneck any hdd's as it is 375MB/s and i haven't seen any hdd's do over 150MB/s.

true but im planning on more SSD's futher down the track

 

In your particular case I think that going Haswell will be a better idea, since the good LGA 2011 boards are quite expensive and you are only planing on getting a 3820. Oh, and the 3820 is not equal to a 3770K, but to a 2700K, because it's Sandy-E, not Ivy-E. 

 

PS: I have the i7 3820 in my rig, because my 3930K died and I kind of needed something to run my computer with, otherwise I would never have bought this processor, it makes no sense at all. 

yeah a 4770k could be a better option and I'd get DRA for rome 2 aswell

 

Possible to wait til X99 platform? It should give more flexibility in the future.

I didn't know it was coming out? any idea of the date? like I said though the only reason I was looking at it was for the sata 3 and I completely forgot about haswell having more sata 3 but thanks

 

Why not replace your raptors with 2 Crucial 960GB's? Theyre around 720$ for 2 and they will last you longer than x79 would. You should have 2 Asmedia sata 3 ports and 2 Intel sata 3, just use the asmedia for your storage ssds..

NZ price is abit heftier but man that would be sweetttttt lol: http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?z=p&p=HDDCRU3960

[Faa]

Hey guys sorry for the late reply, night shifts... ugh

 

 

true but im planning on more SSD's futher down the track

 

yeah a 4770k could be a better option and I'd get DRA for rome 2 aswell

 

I didn't know it was coming out? any idea of the date? like I said though the only reason I was looking at it was for the sata 3 and I completely forgot about haswell having more sata 3 but thanks

 

NZ price is abit heftier but man that would be sweetttttt lol: http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?z=p&p=HDDCRU3960

How many sata 3 ports do you actually need? Your hard drives dont even need sata 3.

[LimpCurve]

Yeah was kinda wondering too if haswell would be worthwhile

Going to Haswell would be a waste of money. They would show about the same performance in todays games as well as multi-threaded tasks and you should not upgrade for another 3-4 years.

[Viddiecent]

Going to Haswell would be a waste of money. They would show about the same performance in todays games as well as multi-threaded tasks and you should not upgrade for another 3-4 years.

 

TBH i dont think that CPU's are gonna get much better over the next few years proformance has slowed down alot as I've noticed since haswell and not many people need anything above 4 cores, 8 threads which is why im assuming the 6 core CPU's are so expensive now.

thats why I was only looking at the 4820. I haven't Ever seen my CPU sit above 50% at stock unless stressing.

just my take though. thats why I see them doing mucking around with Iris and the HD series on their CPU's aswell. im just wondering how long it will take before the power of the cpu itself is not a selling point anymore the instruction sets and other features will... just my take anyway.

[Sintezza]

going socket 2011 for his needs is totaly not worth it..

 

Upgrade from ivy to hasswell in therms of gaming performance is also not worth it..

 

Conclusion... why not buying a pci-e raid controller?

 

Grtz Sintezza

[ChillKyle]

X79 is worth it for a few reason and only these reasons:

- You have a compelling reason for 6 cores, gaming isn't one of them. Mostly professional applications.

- You need lots and lots of RAM, like 64GB of RAM.

- You really need lots of PCI-E 3.0 lanes, such as having 4 graphics cards or other high usage cards like SATA cards or 10 gbit networking.

 

For all other usages you'll find haswell is a more modern platform that has a faster CPU and is better and cheaper.

But the MSI XPower is a Z87 board that can hold 4 graphics cards.

[BrightCandle]

But the MSI XPower is a Z87 board that can hold 4 graphics cards.

It is but its also not got the many real PCI-E slots from the CPU. The only way to get high PCI-E counts properly is with X79, you can have true 4x 8x PCI-E 3.0 on X79 whereas on XZ87 the maximum slots coming out of the CPU is 22. You can get chips that give more lanes but all they do is increase bandwidth between the cards, they can't introduce more bandwidth from the CPU to the GPUs. If you go for more than 2 GPUs then Z87 is going to hold performance back and you are usually better off with X79 and soon 2011-3 systems.

[juretrn]

If you want extra SATA lanes, why not just get a PCI-e controller?

[L_Dub]

If you want extra SATA lanes, why not just get a PCI-e controller?

I was thinking the same thing, a PCI-E raid card would be anywhere from the original budget and less.

I don't know a lot about raid but it'd be cheaper and would let you stay on the 3770K platform and wait

for X99 if your mind is set on socket 2011, or wait until you can't stand it and upgrade to a new mainstream

platform.