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r5 2600 and rtx 3070 bottleneck?

rippy4500

Will my r5 2600 bottleneck the 3070? (nothing is overclocked and i dont plan to overclock my 3070)

 

my other specs:

windows 10 home

8gb ddr4 2666, i plan on getting a new 16gb 3200mhz or 3600mhz ram kit soon

my current gpu is a gtx 970

 

I plan on playing at 4k 60 on games like rdr2 (that is my most demanding game i think)

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8 minutes ago, rippy4500 said:

Will my r5 2600 bottleneck the 3070? (nothing is overclocked and i dont plan to overclock my 3070)

 

my other specs:

windows 10 home

8gb ddr4 2666, i plan on getting a new 16gb 3200mhz or 3600mhz ram kit soon

my current gpu is a gtx 970

 

I plan on playing at 4k 60 on games like rdr2 (that is my most demanding game i think)

You will be fine in 4K resolution. Just get 2X 8GB for 16 GB total or 2x 16 for 32 total up to you (16 is enuff)

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1 minute ago, Panoramix97 said:

You will be fine in 4K resolution. Just get 2X 8GB for 16 GB total or 2x 16 for 32 total up to you (16 is enuff)

good, but im confused about what u said for the ram, i currently have 2x4 ram, im gonna get rid of it then buy a 2x8 gb kit to have 16 gb total.

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14 minutes ago, rippy4500 said:

I plan on playing at 4k 60

it'll be fine on 4K, might have to turn down some settings to lower the GPU load too, depending on how it performs

1440p is nice for 3070

-sigh- feeling like I'm being too negative lately

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2 minutes ago, rippy4500 said:

good, but im confused about what u said for the ram, i currently have 2x4 ram, im gonna get rid of it then buy a 2x8 gb kit to have 16 gb total.

Thats perfect.

 

I said to grab total 16GB with 2x8   

 

or

 

total 32gb with 2x16

 

 

 

16 gb is enuff for gaming unless you want to jerk off to 72 open chrome pages on another monitor while you pllay game on your main monitor then 16gb isnt enuff

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7 minutes ago, Panoramix97 said:

Thats perfect.

 

I said to grab total 16GB with 2x8   

 

or

 

total 32gb with 2x16

 

 

 

16 gb is enuff for gaming unless you want to jerk off to 72 open chrome pages on another monitor while you pllay game on your main monitor then 16gb isnt enuff

16gb is more than enough for what i do rn. but ive heard of some games using more than 8gb of ram so thats why i want to upgrade it. and i wont need 32gb of ram for a looong time.

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10 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

it'll be fine on 4K, might have to turn down some settings to lower the GPU load too, depending on how it performs

1440p is nice for 3070

nvidia says its faster than the 2080 ti so i doubt id need to turn it down to 1440p or turn down any settings. plus 1080p and 1440p look terrible on my 4k monitor.

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1 minute ago, rippy4500 said:

plus 1080p and 1440p look terrible on my 4k monitor.

well if you're used to 4K, you would make that comparison yes

-sigh- feeling like I'm being too negative lately

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2 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

well if you're used to 4K, you would make that comparison yes

theres nothing wrong with turning it down if its gonna help cuz 60fps 1440p is better than 15fps 4k, cuz 4k is really hard on my 970 in most games. also if i get the 3070 its good cuz it can probably run 4k great and isnt super expensive so its good.

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1 minute ago, rippy4500 said:

its good cuz it can probably run 4k great and isnt super expensive so its good.

you can always turn down textures and such to maintain 60fps, not a big issue

-sigh- feeling like I'm being too negative lately

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3 hours ago, rippy4500 said:

nvidia says its faster than the 2080 ti so i doubt id need to turn it down to 1440p or turn down any settings. plus 1080p and 1440p look terrible on my 4k monitor.

Nvidia also said the 3080 was Twice as fast as the 2080 and it was 60-100% Faster depending on the game.
Lets be clear.... 60% in some games... hardly the Doubling (not even CLOSE to 100%) across the board they implied..
So 3070 being a 2080Ti,... Maybe only at 1080p and 1440p where at 4K it has other pipeline bottlenecks (Memory Amount, VS Mem Bandwidth Numbers VS Rops and other factors) Like a 2080Ti in Doom Eternal where it uses FP32 so well, but isn't representative of all Games whatsoever...
Something to chew on... BEST CASE SCENARIO is what Nvidia told you, we will wait and see of course..


Ultra is for Screenshots anyway, In Assassins Creed Odyssey CLOUDS ay Ultra to High gives you 30%+ FPS and you hardly care about the difference of CLOUDS when swinging a Sword around.... Optimizing Games Graphical capabilities is Best for Everyone (Even if you are on Flagship GPU levels)

 

A 2600 WILL Bottleneck you chasing above HighFPS (Say a Ryzen Zen+ architecture CPU tops out at 90-110FPS in a specific game but the GPU should provide 130-170FPS)
That's when 4K makes sense, because your GPU frame counts are less than your "limited to a certain point" CPU frame counts. GPU Necked not CPU necked.

Find where your CPU stretches to, and increase details if you have GPU Usage to spare with Resolution Scaling..if available.

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15 hours ago, SkilledRebuilds said:

Nvidia also said the 3080 was Twice as fast as the 2080 and it was 60-100% Faster depending on the game.
Lets be clear.... 60% in some games... hardly the Doubling (not even CLOSE to 100%) across the board they implied..
So 3070 being a 2080Ti,... Maybe only at 1080p and 1440p where at 4K it has other pipeline bottlenecks (Memory Amount, VS Mem Bandwidth Numbers VS Rops and other factors) Like a 2080Ti in Doom Eternal where it uses FP32 so well, but isn't representative of all Games whatsoever...
Something to chew on... BEST CASE SCENARIO is what Nvidia told you, we will wait and see of course..


Ultra is for Screenshots anyway, In Assassins Creed Odyssey CLOUDS ay Ultra to High gives you 30%+ FPS and you hardly care about the difference of CLOUDS when swinging a Sword around.... Optimizing Games Graphical capabilities is Best for Everyone (Even if you are on Flagship GPU levels)

 

A 2600 WILL Bottleneck you chasing above HighFPS (Say a Ryzen Zen+ architecture CPU tops out at 90-110FPS in a specific game but the GPU should provide 130-170FPS)
That's when 4K makes sense, because your GPU frame counts are less than your "limited to a certain point" CPU frame counts. GPU Necked not CPU necked.

Find where your CPU stretches to, and increase details if you have GPU Usage to spare with Resolution Scaling..if available.

ok this is alot to take in. Unless a game actually gets me below 60fps on 4k with a 3070, (which it might i dont have any experience with gpus on the level of a 2080 ti) Im probably not gonna turn down settings even if ultra on clouds turns my fps down by 30%, if i get an average of barely 60fps like i get 65fps average, then im gonna keep my settings max. But i may be seeing things wrong. i dont really care about getting every last fps, if i have a powerful gpu that i dont need to sell a kidney for and will last me a long time then im happy. Also sorry for this super late reply i had to do something important.

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Displays: MSI MAG 271QPX 1440p 360Hz 27" QD-OLED | LG UltraGear 27GP950-B, 4K 144Hz (@120hz) 27" IPS

 

Desktop Audio: STAX SR-007 MK2 Electrostatic Headphones | STAX SRM-400S Amp | Schiit Bifrost 2/64 (NOS mode, USB in, XLR out)

 

Mobile Audio: Sennheiser IE 900 IEMs using included 4.4mm cable | FiiO KA13 "Desktop mode" Disabled

 

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